A relative of mine actually had a variation of what you called "Pink Lady" from bagseed also. It turned out to be great smoke and the entire plant was covered in pink hairs. Truly unique traits! Great journal/report! 
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The best smoke report I have read. Did you give out a questionnaire to fill in for each strain?
Near the end you ask if everyone gets a major variety of phenotypes from seed batches. I am currently growing eight Bubba Kush plants from seed and have 1 plant whose growth is about 125% of the average while another has a growth rate approximately 50% of the average. I also have one that has lightly colored Sativa type leaves with red edges. I picked them all out of the same bag of buds that I got from a delivery service. I believe all but one of them even came from the same flower. What we must remember is just as two parents will not create a perfect copy of their child by making another, two plants will not create two perfectly identical offspring excluding of course identical twins which is where a fertilized egg splits into two.
Thanks again for the laughs and the amazing smoke report.
Thanks for the great report Woodsman it was well worth the wait! 37 ozs will tide you over nicely. I'm glad the journal will remain active for a bit too.
The above analogy isn't really germane, since humans aren't bred like domesticated plants and animals are.
The commercial seed business is much more so. When you buy a packet of marigolds they all look pretty much the same with minor variations. It is a stable, established genetic type that has been developed over many many years. You don't get one tall plant with thin leaves, another short squat one with fat leaves etc.
I don't think lots of pot strains are very stable yet. Adding to the confusion is that lots of growers try to replicate strains and come out with their own version of white widow or whatever.
IMO a strain should not be considered a strain until it breeds true every time. When a cross produces 'phenotypes' I think that's just a nice way of saying it's not stable and multiple different genetic plants are produced by one cross, but all are given the same name.
It's all part of being underground. I suspect established seed banks will develop more and more stable strains as time goes on.
My bubba kush looks so unlike Woodsmans or Tmacs, no way they're the same plant. It would be like someone taking petunia seeds and putting them in marigold packets. Someone may say they're both marigolds but obviously they're not.
What's most frustrating is if you grow a great plant you may never be able to find it again, even if you get the same seeds from the same supplier. Luckily there are so many other great plants to be had most of us don't let it bother us too much
A relative of mine actually had a variation of what you called "Pink Lady" from bagseed also. It turned out to be great smoke and the entire plant was covered in pink hairs. Truly unique traits! Great journal/report!
It was 27 OZ not 37 (I wish!)
Hello HTL, Blue and welcome Nine Leafer (nice name), Well I had to get the BIG pipe out for those posts! LOL. I'll start with the hardest of all, Nine Leafer! lol
The 1A and 1B bagweeds are from the same bag. The bag was marked (very amateurishly I might add) Sno-Cap. I seriously doubt it really was though. The other bag (#2 pink lady) was not 'titled'. In my searches through cyberspace I found a few strains that were similar to #2 with the best example being a 'Pink Kush'. Some of the photos of Diesels had some pink hairs. I guess we'll never know though.
As for the two of you, HTL and Blue...... I forgot what you guys were talking about (may be a good thing as I will avoid headaches and whatnot from trying to 'grasp' it all! LOL
You two must really be stoned! Only someone like me and the rest of us here would know this. Don't worry, your secret is safe with us!
Reminds me of what my little brother and I are like when we smoke together. Only difference is, you two know what your talking about!
By all means you guys can talk about anything you like, this is a hijack-able thread, open to all!
If you only have the one kind of seed/strain to grow then it's a good thing (diff. phenos). Like having several strains to choose from. I now have four different great smokes from the NL#5's. Even the Regenerated 'Runt' is different in certain ways to it's earlier self. Growing out in the Sun made it taste better more potent and much much tighter than it's indoor 'self was (is - I still have a bit along with a few grams of Big Girl ). I actually have 6 different NL#5's out of 6 if you include my two 'duds'.
That's another question (especially since I got your attention) Can I make great hash from bad dope? Is it the amount (as in lack) of trichomes or is it the quality or rather the make up of the trichome that determine it's potency?
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Don't know if my smoke report is on this page for any of you, for me it's not (previous page already) So just a 'heads up' to those who may have missed it. It should be on the previous page if you don't have it on this one.
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The Nazis were only in power for less than 15 years, that's not even one generation of experimenting, and I'm sure there have also been other small scale breeding attempts in the past. But I'm confident that both of us can agree that humans haven't been bred like the other stuff we're talking about.
Beyond that I totally agree with your post. I'm not surprised that there are some stable strains out there and I'm sure there will be more, it takes a lot of selective breeding which takes time.
Probably everyone else here already knew that, but I'm pretty new and just starting to figure out that grows with the same strain may not be featuring the same plants. Thanks and take care.
lavendar
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WOW...that was worth the wait...
what a journey....great work woodsman...
hugs, L
what a journey....great work woodsman...
hugs, L
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Don't know if my smoke report is on this page for any of you, for me it's not (previous page already) So just a 'heads up' to those who may have missed it. It should be on the previous page if you don't have it on this one.
nice job. holy smokes, you should get a MemberOfMonth just for that report. Jeeze.
Hi Woodsman! What a report! 
That was great! A work of art, as it were! That took allot of time and devotion to make a report like that.
All said and done.....you have 27 oz of great smoke to hold you for a long time.
That's bad for all of us who will miss your journal.....one of the best ever on 420.
Your personality just hits us all in our funny spot. Sure going to miss checking in everyday to see what adventures await.
If you feel the urge to expound on a subject, your welcome to do it in my journal at anytime.
That was great! A work of art, as it were! That took allot of time and devotion to make a report like that.
All said and done.....you have 27 oz of great smoke to hold you for a long time.
That's bad for all of us who will miss your journal.....one of the best ever on 420.
Your personality just hits us all in our funny spot. Sure going to miss checking in everyday to see what adventures await.
If you feel the urge to expound on a subject, your welcome to do it in my journal at anytime.
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Thanks my friends for visiting! I am so glad I got this done. I wanted to add more pics to it, but thought that the post would be way too long (it already is too long!).
Hey while I'm here (on 420) I'd like to thank my two great (and anonymous) friends (Oh ya, cousins!) for the fine work they did and the sacrifices it entailed!
I give all the credit to my great 'researchers' who so gallantly and with great danger to them selves I might add, gave up their precious 'quiet' time at the corner beer and pizza place to do this work for me. Why did you know that one gave up washing dishes
for a few weeks just help the cause! Super human! I'll have to throw a party!Not that I like trendy lines or anything, but I'm left with no choice!... 'It was a dirty job, but somebody had to do it!'
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Hi Woodsman! What a report!
That was great! A work of art, as it were! That took allot of time and devotion to make a report like that.
All said and done.....you have 27 oz of great smoke to hold you for a long time.
That's bad for all of us who will miss your journal.....one of the best ever on 420.
Your personality just hits us all in our funny spot. Sure going to miss checking in everyday to see what adventures await.
If you feel the urge to expound on a subject, your welcome to do it in my journal at anytime.
Never fear my friend! Nothing could stop me from visiting your fine site! Hmmm? Except maybe if I got my tongue stuck on a frozen metal strippers pole at a 'Gentleman's' club I know up in Northern Alaska. Eskimo woman. Aleutian amazons! Nothing like fresh pre-chewed seal meat before a roll in the furs! Nope my friend, that's about the only thing that would keep me away.
Never fear my friend! Nothing could stop me from visiting your fine site! Hmmm? Except maybe if I got my tongue stuck on a frozen metal strippers pole at a 'Gentleman's' club I know up in Northern Alaska. Eskimo woman. Aleutian amazons! Nothing like fresh pre-chewed seal meat before a roll in the furs! Nope my friend, that's about the only thing that would keep me away.
Well, that's good to hear!
Man, you just got to learn what to not put your tongue on. Pre-chewed is good, helps the digestion. Kind of reminds me of the old days in Thailand. If you woke up and looked over at her boobs and saw clean spots, you knew you had a good time!
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Hey Woodsman, to answer your question the quality of the trichomes as well as when the plants were harvested will determine what quality and what kind of effects your hash will have. I just made a batch of bubble hash (you can see pics in my current journal). The hash I have made recently with high quality trim is much more potent than some hash I have made from lesser quality trim. I have made bubble hash about 10 times now and each batch has had different qualities and potencies depending upon the plants the trim has come from.
BlueDog I agree with you that there have been very few human breeding experiments when compared with the many thousands of years of agricultural breeding programs that humans have undertaken. I have seen your journal and must complement you on your growing skills.
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hey wood the regen bud has certain appel from the group shot
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Well, that's good to hear!
Man, you just got to learn what to not put your tongue on. Pre-chewed is good, helps the digestion. Kind of reminds me of the old days in Thailand. If you woke up and looked over at her boobs and saw clean spots, you knew you had a good time!
Lavendar, Tmac and all the other fine ladies out there, please forgive our latest transgression into (and under) the dark side.
Clean spots! LOL
Thanks for letting me know H. I won't waste hours and hours making hash with the non potent stuff. Too bad. good news is that I have a lot of stuff in the freezer from all the good plants. Thanks buddy!
They must have gotten into the 'high high' stuff! LOL, Howdy my friend! Good to see you!
lavendar
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oh my, that must have been an adventure.....cant begin to imagine...weird visual tho....clean spots, whoa, dont go there lav, what must the rest have been like....oh dear, oh dear, the boys are at it again....tmac...hide....run, hugs, L
Barry Manilow
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I've got my eyes closed lav..... what clean spots???
Haha I have no idea what that means either but it was funny.
lavendar
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no further comment....i think im just going to sleep now...roflmao.....hugs, L
Woodsman, that was right up there with Granny420, OMM, type of review.
I admire your and your researchers, taking it to the next level.
I'll have to find me a person or two to do a review, too. It is so my greatest pleasure to say to you sir, Freaking Fine Job.
I admire your and your researchers, taking it to the next level.
I'll have to find me a person or two to do a review, too. It is so my greatest pleasure to say to you sir, Freaking Fine Job.
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oh my, that must have been an adventure.....cant begin to imagine...weird visual tho....clean spots, whoa, dont go there lav, what must the rest have been like....oh dear, oh dear, the boys are at it again....tmac...hide....run, hugs, L
From the slums of Bangkok to fishing villages on the Bering Straits OMM and me got it covered!
I've got my eyes closed lav..... what clean spots???
Hope he was wearing something on his tongue! OMM, did it hurt later when you tried to talk? A burning feeling when you spit?
It is aged and seasoned 'Old Salt' humor that OMM has apparently mastered.
Good night L! Sweet dreams.
Woodsman, that was right up there with Granny420, OMM, type of review.
I admire your and your researchers, taking it to the next level.
I'll have to find me a person or two to do a review, too. It is so my greatest pleasure to say to you sir, Freaking Fine Job.
Thank yo my friend, and I thank you on behalf of my two 'cousins' also as they deserve most of the credit. Had to 'farm' it out brother, cause I just can't seem to connect (identify) the tastes or smells of the different weed with an actual object. I think my stink detector is going on the blink!
I think L's got the right idea folks. I'm hittin the sack also! Nite all and thank you for all your input
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Just something I forgot to post.
I had mentioned that the Bagweed #2 (Pink Lady) looked like a Pink Kush. Check out this Photo link. The strain is from Ree*erm*n. Not sure if their sponsors so I won't spell it all out. The lighting on this one does not do it justice. Mine looked like this in similar lighting. Identical to my #2 Bagweed. Identical! got Pics just like it. I'll have to post some of those up (later)
I had mentioned that the Bagweed #2 (Pink Lady) looked like a Pink Kush. Check out this Photo link. The strain is from Ree*erm*n. Not sure if their sponsors so I won't spell it all out. The lighting on this one does not do it justice. Mine looked like this in similar lighting. Identical to my #2 Bagweed. Identical! got Pics just like it. I'll have to post some of those up (later)