Woodsman Outdoors
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Barry Manilow
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Hey Tmac thanks I see them now!
Recently had to renew my drivers license, usually I couldn't read anything at all on the first 2 lines she asked me to read, which were not the smallest, then I'd finally struggle through one guessing at half.... and I passed!
I'd worry that there are lots of blind drivers out there but seriously, I can see just fine to drive. I never have to read some .10" type when I'm cruising along. Don't get what that test is supposed to measure at all.
Recently had to renew my drivers license, usually I couldn't read anything at all on the first 2 lines she asked me to read, which were not the smallest, then I'd finally struggle through one guessing at half.... and I passed!
I'd worry that there are lots of blind drivers out there but seriously, I can see just fine to drive. I never have to read some .10" type when I'm cruising along. Don't get what that test is supposed to measure at all.
We do what we can for "ours" you are one of many we need to stand up for. Peace my friends
Love chicken!!! Roasted, fried, BBQ, in a sandwich, in a salad, in a soup, just don't like it in my ice cream or cake....or in jello....
Peer pressure, pure peer pressure! I am more like...'good sh*t' or 'really good sh*t', Sometimes I'll say 'awesome sh*t' when I'm with younger people. I never said 'GROOVY' sh*t though! LOL
Actually a 'vision' came to me......In it I was with this babe from Brazil and there were string bikinis everywhe.......sorry, wrong 'vision'! This vision had me doing a nice spread to finish off the grow. Reviews and corresponding photos. Should be nice.
In fact....here's a 'one pic preview': (W/C stands for 'Water Cure')
Big fan of WC buds
hope your feeling better my friend. 
ChicagoJoe
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Thanks guys.
Things are getting better. Wife has started counseling again and some SRI meds. I'm helping her along the best I could.
Peace.
Woodsy. dont smoke all those w/c buds. I'll be coming up to camp and bike when the weather breaks.
Are you up and about yet?
Things are getting better. Wife has started counseling again and some SRI meds. I'm helping her along the best I could.
Peace.
Woodsy. dont smoke all those w/c buds. I'll be coming up to camp and bike when the weather breaks.
Are you up and about yet?
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High Woodsman!
Well, Jo does make some good green chicken Jello!
Man, I'm glad your gettin better...that gets old fast!
Your 'one pic preview' looks, well,,,,,, GROOVY!
Morning all! Woodsman if there's a 'wc' anywhere in those pics my eyes are even worse than suspected!
Given your health and stoner ways, I'm worried this final report could take months!
Can we get an early report on the BK... nothing fancy just a rating on the shit scale.... hmmm that just sounds wrong lol!
Big fan of WC buds
Hello my friends, sorry I've been away these last couple of days. I've been busy with personal things and that usually puts me into one of those moods that I don't like. Still there, but life must go on.
I've worked for several hours (last two days) on my report. Not even sure if I can post it on one 'post'? It is very long and will take more than a whole page I think!. I've got all the text finished except for the photo descriptions. That will be done at the same time as my post. I may get it all out to you this evening or perhaps tomorrow. Problem will be that once I've started, I won't be able to stop or I may lose the post (it's that long) unless I break it up into segments and that is not my intention. Not sure why I'm doing this? Other than the Mazar, Bubba and NL#5 the rest of it is Bagweed and of course no one will care. I've come all this way with it though so I might as well publish it (the report). All that is needed is to open the submission page paste the text, add the photos and their descriptions (not all picked out yet, but will do it as it comes).
Thank you all for your patience.
Woodsman, you put up a picture of the spent ash, to the bud you smoked, detail the lung expansion to each type, don't over look the under tones and keep the percentages of each clear,cloudy, amber, tricome in check.
Also send it to NASA so they can tell you what orbit you can legaly fly into on that stuff.
Thank you, from a future space cadet.
Also send it to NASA so they can tell you what orbit you can legaly fly into on that stuff.
Thank you, from a future space cadet.
No use hurrying now Bud! We'll still be here waiting for the End All of all smoke reports!
Barry Manilow
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I heard it's gonna be released on Wikileaks tomorrow, that Assange guy really gets around
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Woodsman, you put up a picture of the spent ash, to the bud you smoked, detail the lung expansion to each type, don't over look the under tones and keep the percentages of each clear,cloudy, amber, tricome in check.
Also send it to NASA so they can tell you what orbit you can legaly fly into on that stuff.
Thank you, from a future space cadet.
No use hurrying now Bud! We'll still be here waiting for the End All of all smoke reports!
I heard it's gonna be released on Wikileaks tomorrow, that Assange guy really gets around
Hi folks. Thanks for making me laugh. Tough here the last few days. I'll try to get the report out asap. I'm going to work on that right now. I'll be 'out of touch' until it's up.
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Pre - Report!
Just recently I had the pleasure - I think - of meeting a couple of very distant relatives of whom I had never seen before and didn't know existed. Simply amazing how that happens every year just after harvest time! Apparently we are related through a third cousin of a great aunt who has since been twice removed and three times married with the first husband of the three being their second cousin Brutus. Brutus they explained would have liked to have been with them now, but had just been called away on an unexpected and lengthy business trip for ten to twenty years...
Using my advanced intellect and thinking it over and over...once, I came to a 'woodsmanesque' type decision that only I possess, and believed every word they told me! With arms opened wide I decided to welcome these 'poor lost relatives' into my home. I had only one simple request...
'Sample all my weed and then tell me what you think of it.'
I know this sounds quite horrific and a rotten thing for me to thrust upon my long lost cousins, but I had no choice. You, my devoted fans have waited far too long for me to publish a smoke report. I could not live with myself any longer knowing the suffering you all must be experiencing! No human should be made to endure such humiliation! I can only imagine the great pain and mental anguish you must have all been dealing with these last couple of months.
Well my great friends the wait is over! My long lost cousins have agreed to help and even volunteered to store most of my stuff at an undisclosed location at no charge to myself!
After many weeks of hard work and highly scientific research involving many trips to the Pizzeria 'down on the corner' along with several trips to the convenience store (each night), I was able to complete my task! Not easy mind you! It wasn't easy deciphering through the sometimes incoherent mumblings of crazed and sometimes drooling mad men...
I can now present to you all, my smoke reports from this season's outdoor grow....
Just give me a bit more time, I'm working on it right now.
Just recently I had the pleasure - I think - of meeting a couple of very distant relatives of whom I had never seen before and didn't know existed. Simply amazing how that happens every year just after harvest time! Apparently we are related through a third cousin of a great aunt who has since been twice removed and three times married with the first husband of the three being their second cousin Brutus. Brutus they explained would have liked to have been with them now, but had just been called away on an unexpected and lengthy business trip for ten to twenty years...
Using my advanced intellect and thinking it over and over...once, I came to a 'woodsmanesque' type decision that only I possess, and believed every word they told me! With arms opened wide I decided to welcome these 'poor lost relatives' into my home. I had only one simple request...
'Sample all my weed and then tell me what you think of it.'
I know this sounds quite horrific and a rotten thing for me to thrust upon my long lost cousins, but I had no choice. You, my devoted fans have waited far too long for me to publish a smoke report. I could not live with myself any longer knowing the suffering you all must be experiencing! No human should be made to endure such humiliation! I can only imagine the great pain and mental anguish you must have all been dealing with these last couple of months.
Well my great friends the wait is over! My long lost cousins have agreed to help and even volunteered to store most of my stuff at an undisclosed location at no charge to myself!
After many weeks of hard work and highly scientific research involving many trips to the Pizzeria 'down on the corner' along with several trips to the convenience store (each night), I was able to complete my task! Not easy mind you! It wasn't easy deciphering through the sometimes incoherent mumblings of crazed and sometimes drooling mad men...
I can now present to you all, my smoke reports from this season's outdoor grow....
Just give me a bit more time, I'm working on it right now.
LMAO, Long lost cousins, every time you harvest...
I tell you, sometimes I read these posts over and over. Can't wait for the "cousins" report.
I tell you, sometimes I read these posts over and over. Can't wait for the "cousins" report.
Barry Manilow
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It's been so long I forget buddy.... is this the tomato or zucchini grow?
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"Woodsman Outdoors"
Smoke reports and reviews
Quick Note before we start..
The following are three independent reviews of each one of my ten different smokes. I will call one of them Researcher A and the other Researcher B (actual human Guinea pigs) with the third review being my own thoughts or comments. I'll do this one type of smoke at a time. Each will be accompanied by some corresponding photos.
Enjoy!
The ten types or strains are:
#1A
#1B
#2 (Pink Lady)
#1A W/C W/C-stands for 'Water Cured'
#1B W/C
#2 W/C
NL#5 from seed
The Runt (NL#5 that I regenerated)
Bubba Kush
Mazar
*Note
My three Bagweeds 1A and 1B are seeds from the same bag while #2 is from a different bag - both bags were from the same source in San Diego, CA. - their lineage is unknown. They were both 'street bought' and were both very good, though dry and somewhat seedy. Regular cured and water cured selections are from the same plant. Example: 1A and 1A W/C are the same, just cured differently.
Also the samples used by the two 'researchers' were cured for between one and one and a half months in air tight canning jars (unless 'water cured' W/C) Unfortunately the samples were over dried as a scare of mold fell on me! That's the reason I 'water cured' some of the bagweeds. Right after the 'testing', I re-hydrated all of my stuff by placing a small piece of grapefruit peel in each jar. They were all removed after no longer than 24 hours. I have very nice cured buds now and I'm sure they are 'less harsh' than the samples used. Unfortunate but it's done! Could have got even higher ratings I'm sure if I had waited and used the 're-hydrated' smoke.
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Bagweed 1A (Researcher A)
"this is an excellent pot, excellent high, great taste, citrus, love the exhale, this is a keeper for sure....hide this one away, just now wearing off....6hrs"
Very nice high on this reg cured bud. High is just now really wearing off and not bad on the munchies either, energetic, but relaxing. A minty menthol citrus taste. This is an excellent pot, not harsh, nice looking buds and great taste left on lips, citrus, love the exhale just a tiny bit to crisp, but just fine. The bud smells great, maybe some diesel or head
band in this one. Excellent high, just now wearing off at 6hrs! Great smoke congrats, this is a keeper for sure, hide this one away. Didn't even look
at the ash as I liked this one so much
Bagseed 1A (Researcher B)
"very nice stoney high, I give her an 9. good stuff!"
Smooth. After 4 hits a very nice stoney high. A good movie watcher stone. I give her an 9. good stuff!
Bagweed 1A (My take)
This is the smoke you want when your in a good mood and wish to 'leave reality behind'. A great choice if I was up in 'my mountains' fishing and camping. I have had negative experiences (two) with this one. I will not smoke this one at night anymore when I'm alone! I'm sure you've all experienced this before... You smoke, you become 'super stoned' and then all of a sudden thoughts begin to enter your mind! To some it may be paranoia, for me all the things I was supposed to do, or the things that I have failed to do try to enter my mind. Not a good smoke for me if I am the slightest bit depressed or upset about something. This one is so so strong and almost impossible to stop! Almost like your tripping, making you susceptible to having a bad trip if your mind is not screwed on right. Researcher 'A' said it was "just starting to wear off after 6 hours". Like I said, a trip! I will use this to 'escape' during the daytime!
I think it has a Mentholatum smell ('citrus' is used above to describe it by 'A'). If I wanted to impress someone, this is the one!
I'm sure for most of you this would be a great smoke to experience and it has for me also (daytime) when I can 'see' if I'm going to be doomed! LOL, I do suffer from depression and take medication daily for it. This one 'over rode' my meds!
***Total weight on all the 1A (including water cured bud) was 4 OZ
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*A note on Water Curing before we proceed
I've read many discussions about water cures (on the internet) and how or if they affect the potency of a smoke. Here is my own 'personal' take on it.
Take two identical buds (size and shape and weight) from the same plant, both have gone through the air dry and are ready to place in a jar for a regular cure. But we are going to water cure one of them while doing a regular 'burp cure' on the other. You'd have to wait about a month (at least) for the regular cure to be even halfway decent. The water cure is ready for smoking after you've cured it for a week in distilled water followed by a fast dry process.
Take your month old regular cured bud and put it next to your water cured (dried). They used to be the same size remember? Now we find that the water cured bud is a bit smaller than the regular cured bud. Perhaps up to 25 percent smaller. The reason the W/C has shrunk is because during the week that you had it submersed in water some of the plant material (leaves, stems, calyxes etc.) has deteriorated away. Like wet newspaper, it disintegrates. The Trichomes on the other hand didn't go anywhere. They do not (unless you really agitate the stuff) fall off the plant. Trichomes are what get you high not the green material surrounding it.
Your W/C bud is now 'concentrated' after losing some of the 'roughage' or as mentioned above, 25% smaller. You still have the same amount of trichomes though as you have on the reg cured bud. Smoke the same amount of each and the W/C bud will get you higher. Simple as that. If you place 25% less of the W/C bud in the bowl than the reg cured bud, they should be the same strength. So equal portions would favor the W/C. and unless you 'ration' the 'servings' accordingly this is what you will think. Most persons would just fill up the bowl, or roll a joint like normal. You see? Just concentrated more than reg cured bud of the same exact kind.
1A W/C (Researcher A)
"love the taste, this is a wow"
love the taste, esp. on the exhale and of course the color is dark, and i love that black look of the water cure. This is a wow!
1A W/C (Researcher B)
"Nice Buzz, comes on fast. I like it, a 9.5 rating" "I'm still stoned. Good shit! Long lasting."
No taste that I can identify.
Nice Buzz, comes on fast. I like it, 9.5
......I'm still stoned. Good shit! Long lasting.
Bagweed 1A W/C (My take)
What do I think of the 1A W/C. Well it's the same as the reg cure just that I, like everyone else, smoke the same amount of it and get that much more stoned! With this one, it could be down right lethal! Smells less and tastes less, but is extremely potent. When I was younger this one and the reg cure would have been right up my alley! Must be getting old now and am carrying too much negative 'baggage'!
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BAGWEED #1B (Researcher A)
"Would i buy it? yes, it is better than a lot I've bought, 8-9 overall with a 10 for looks and ash,initial head band effect, much like the kali, a keeper for me for
day use, not bad at all. Energetic rather than lazy high"
you really flushed it well, fine white fluffy ash, an outstanding job. Didn't really have an exceptional exhale, just clean
Inhale-a slight spicy to almost bland inhale, not what you did, some plants don't. Taste is not bitter, one initial bite, a little on the bitter citrus spice, but mild.
looks-a lot of bag appeal and very nice looking, it's visually very good
no cough, no raw throat, big plus,
Initial head band effect, much like the kali, or headband has.
Good daytime high that lasts about 2-3hrs. I could work while using, can drift on it or be right in reality. Has a fun and airy high, not so couch lock, but good with minor pain relief or anti anxiety, more of a head high though, creative, music, etc.
Overall a good strong 8-9, a 10 on looks, 10 on ash,
Would I buy it? Yes, it is better than a lot and had a good smell, and the look of the bag would also add to it. A day use keeper for me with an energetic rather than lazy high
Bagseed 1B (Researcher B)
"kicks butt, smells great, smell is really good, kind of spicy and sweet"
Kicks butt, tastes good...spicy....4 small hits
and I'm stoned!
I think Bagweed 1B smells great. Feels nice and dry too and I like dry.
The smell is really good, kind of spicy and sweet. Almost musky. My nose likes it too. So don't smell any green at all
Bagweed 1B (My take)
This one has been my favorite 'smelling' of them all. Really smells like some of the sweet smoke of my California days. Again I have trouble identifying the 'exact' smell. The two folks above mention the 'bitter citrus' or 'spicy and sweet', Perhaps an orange or better yet a grapefruit peel smell (though sweet). Like I said already, what I think of when I think of good smelling pot. Problem is that it is not overwhelming like some stuff I've had in the past. It is getting stronger though as we move well into the second full month of it's cure.
Not as powerful as 1A but not a slouch either. It is definitely an 'up high' and is a great 'all around' smoke for me. In potency it's not the strongest, but it definitely will get you there and you could 'function' on it 'slightly' LOL!
***Total Weight for 1B (including water cured bud) was 4.5 OZ
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Bagweed 1B W/C (Researcher A)
"very smooth, great high, truly enjoyable"
very smooth, great high, truly enjoyable....i love the color the water cure turns them, very different.
had a very nice taste even though a w/c and it burned my throat very little, but that was because of how dry it was.
Ash was clean, and did not pop or crackle a very good job
Bagweed 1B W/C (Researcher B)
"I liked it! Rating 8.4"
Really no taste, 3 or 4 hits and on comes a nice stoney feeling, however in 30 minutes it's gone, another two hits and stoney again, I liked it! Rating 8.4.
Bagweed 1B W/C (My take)
Also agree with both of them concerning the 'stoniness'. Very good and like the other W/C not too much of a taste or smell, though a feint glimmer of it's natural smell is still present.
Researcher A mentions the 'dark color' of the water cured buds. They are all a dark dark brown color and are rock, I mean rock solid.
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Bagweed #2 'Pink Lady' (Researcher A)
"absolutely great", "great flavor, kinda floral, and spicy, with a little diesel", "bit of sour flavor, so i really think it has diesel in it and the high is really nice", "between a high 8 and
a high 9"
Absolutely great....harsh...but we know why (a bit to dry) with great flavor, kinda floral, and spicy, with a little diesel taste, the exhale is the same way. The ash is absolutely white and fluffy like it should be with no snapping when smoked so the flush was great. A tiny bit of sour flavor, so i really think it has diesel in it. The high is really nice and lasted quite a while. Very nice! Between a high 8 and
a high 9.
Bagweed #2 'Pink Lady' (Researcher B)
"She's the best of the lot, I was on my 4th toke before I realized that I was stinking high. Nice, nice smoke!."
Smoking the Pink Lady tonight and she's the best of the lot so far! I was on my 4th toke before I realized that I was
stinking high. Nice, nice smoke!.
Tell you what, I sure do like it!.
Bagweed #2 'Pink Lady' (My take)
Well I thought there may be some diesel in this and I mentioned it way back right after harvest the first time I tried her. Now that she's cured (2 and a half months) I don't notice it as much. This is a pungent smelling smoke with character! I don't like chamomile tea, and this has that kind of a smell to it (at least for me) Used to think when it was growing that it smelled like overripe melons of some such. Not what I smell now though. More like the Chamomile tea. Not my favorite smell, but it could be very exceptable to others very easily. Just the chamomile I don't like. Tastes good, no tea flavor. Spicy hot taste perhaps. Not sure as usual! LOL Definitely tastes like 'something familiar' but I have a problem placing it!
Very potent smoke and is up there with 1A though I don't get all weird with it like I have on 1A a couple of times. It is definitely something that I would grow again and if I was into 'moving' something this would be one for sure. An early finisher, in fact the first one I harvested along with 1B. Those two have been curing since early November and it's almost mid January now, so two months solid. And this one is super solid as in 'tight.
Given the choice between this one and 1A (at night), I'd go with this one. Only because I am too old and have too many emotional issues to handle 1A! LOL I'm already crazy and don't need too much help! Several years ago I'd have taken 1A because it is so strong and I was able to handle it.
***Total weight on #2 'Pink Lady' (including water cured bud) was 5 OZ
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Bagweed #2 W/C 'Pink Lady'
"good 9 for strength, high is instant, lasted about 2,3 hrs. Great high, the exhale was like walking into a garden after a rain storm."
smell, or aroma is kinda like when you open a box of oolong tea, not overwhelming, but clear and with a slight fragrance of flowers on the breeze.
The taste, none really, the exhale was like walking into a garden after a rain storm though and just a touch of maybe floral in the air.
The high was instant, loved the high which.gave me squint eye pretty bad and lasted about 2,3 hrs. Great high!
What kind of a high? Up, a thinking high, a little laid back but not a couch lock only either as I enjoyed laughing.
ashes were nice and white
OK, a little on the harsh side, (cure) and due to drying to much
loved the black color it left. The only thing i really didn't love was the harshness (too dry). A good 9 for strength and I would buy it, and use a vaporizer.
Bagweed #2 W/C 'Pink Lady' (Researcher B)
"Hit's very hard and is very good.
A strong 9, My friend loved it too!"
I smoked that puppy! Must have been really stoned!
I got confused. Rarely, rarely happens!
No real taste again, but pretty smooth
Hit's very hard and is very good. A strong 9.
I saved it and smoked at different times. My friend loved it too!
Bagweed #2 W/C 'Pink Lady' (My take)
Well one of them says it's harsh and the other says its 'pretty smooth'. What it is is damn strong as in potent! This version of the 'Pink Lady' does smell more like 'Chinese tea' than the chamomile of the regular cured Pink Lady. You could smoke this outside and no one would smell 'marijuana' Of course the fact your smoking an odd looking 'cigarette' may attract some attention! Like burning tea leaves!
Great smoke as all the variations of my bagweed are.
Strongest of the three bagweeds is the 1A and 1A W/C then a very close second the Pink Lady #2 and it's 'watered cured brother'. 1B is not quite as potent, but is as potent as most stuff you'd find and it tastes the best of the three.
In my simple but very often stoned mind, I'd rate (for potency) the 1A a 10, the Pink Lady (#2) a close second with a 9.5 and then the terrific smelling 1B as perhaps an 8.5 in potency.
Not a bad outcome indeed! As a gift sent to me by an old friend in SD who said the stuff was nothing special! "Just the normal quarter ounce street weed we buy around here" . I'd love to let her try it now and see what she thinks of her old 'street weed'.
It's all in the way it's grown that makes the difference. If you've got 'good stock' in your bagseed to begin with, you can make it even better. I've tried and still try to pay attention to what is written here about growing from our great world class growers right here on the site.
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NL#5 from seed (Researcher A)
"good taste, good exhale, really enjoyed it, good mid range high, good day smoke, gave this an 8"
Good taste, a little harsh (dry), good ash and good exhale. Took this one around with me today and really enjoyed it. Didn't get me so screwed up that i didn't function, very mild, good mid range high so a good day smoke. You did an excellent job of flushing and also liked the flavor and smell.
The high was not outrageous, but very nice and could maintain around people on this. Gave this an 8, but
could be stronger, NL is not noted for a kick butt high. With all that said and done, you did a
great job on the plant and still a good day high.
NL#5 from seed (Researcher B)
Didn't do a thing for me, Nothing!
NL#5 from seed (My take)
Well I've grown a few NL#5's lately. Of the three grown last fall/spring (indoor), two of them were very good and potent, the third (Fatleaf for those that were around then) was not potent at all. This time around I grew two with only one from 'seed' and the other a 'regeneration' (reviewed below). While this is my weakest as far as potency goes, it does give a 'medium' high. I have grown 'non potent' weed before and this is not that 'impotent'. It does taste and smell very good, (like sweet fruit - perhaps grape juice?)
Not sure why Researcher B said it 'didn't do a thing' for him, but everyone is affected differently of course. I think it has some degree of 'highness' as noted by Researcher A. Thought the 8 given by 'A' was very generous though. It is the kind of smoke that would be alright for around the town use as you may not 'look' too stoned. It is not a knockout for sure, but is not completely 'impotent'. I'd give it a 6 or 7 on potency and a 8-9 on taste and smell. Would I grow NL#5 again.. Yes definitely. My Big Girl and The Runt from my previous grow were (are - I still have a little) very good. Not sure about it? Just read below about the 'Runt' ( NL#5 Regenerated - regrown)
***Total weight on NL#5 (from seed) was 4.3 OZ
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RUNT, NL#5 - Regenerated (Researcher A)
"A good 8-9 for strength, I would buy it to have on hand, card games, etc, so far the smoke is very good"
Smell is mild , floral, spicy taste was clean and gave me cotton mouth!
High-'high', comes on in waves , a good nine for strength, a good clean high that you could work with, calming good
for writing.
Ashes-now here is not as good, dark ashes mixed with white
it sizzled and popped all the way thru so it either was a very short flush or very little one, or was going to try to have seeds.
I also liked the appeal of the bud, good bag appeal. I'd buy it to have on hand. So far the smoke is very good
Runt NL#5 - Regenerated (Researcher B)
"Kicks butt!
Kicks butt! Got so stoned I messed up with an online purchase! I just smoked a piece of her. Saving the rest for later. Runt is good.!
Runt NL#5 - Regenerated (My Take)
Well I really like this smoke and I think 'A' and 'B' did also. This has a very sweet taste and smell to it (now). The Researchers had this after only one month of cure. It is at two months now and as is the case with all of my stuff, it has become more tight, odoriferous and tastier!
I'd give it a 9 for 'potency' while the other 'stronger stuff' like the Bagweed's 1A and #2 would be 9.5's.
This is my choice when I want to get very stoned yet be out in the world. Not that my eyes won't look like I haven't slept for a week (I would just wear sunglasses). Like it a lot! Great for watching TV and I 'do not' want to fall asleep! Not recommended before 'bed time'!
This NL#5 is from the same package of seeds as the other NL#5's I've grown. Some work and some just don't. Out of five grown plants, three have been very good and though they are all different phenos, they all taste/smell sweet to some degree, though they are all different. I would buy NL#5 again.
*note..
This second generation of the Runt is stronger than it's first grow. The previous grow was done inside with minimal lighting (100w HID plus several 26w and 40w cfl's). That smoke was good and stoney, but was 'fluffier' and didn't taste as sweet as this time around. As far as I'm concerned, unless you've got high wattage lighting (400, 600 or 1000w), growing in the Sun takes the prize. My Big Girl (NL#5) from the previous grow was a tad better than the Runt #1 (potency wise) but is not as potent as my latest Runt (regen).
***Total weight on the Runt was 2.3 OZ
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Mazar (Afghan X Skunk#1 75% indica) (Researcher A)
"My wife said she really liked it....on flavor, taste and exhale, as well as high, real good daytime smoke, a good 8 on our scale"
We both agree that it is a little harsh, (sample was a bit dry). The smell was nice, taste not too much, very generic, not much of a starting point in flavor, also could be the cure
*note from Woodsman..as I mentioned before, the samples were about a month into cure when tested, they all taste/smell much stronger now after two months in cure. Also the samples were too dry and since then have been 're-hydrated' and are now fine
Mazar is not my favorite, no matter who grows it. My wife said she really liked it on flavor, taste and exhale, as well as
high which we both agree is a good 8 because of the high. The ash, was pure white, a great job on flushing, just wonderful. A real good day smoke. My wife said it was a real great outside weed, and gives it very high marks on energy.
Mazar (Researcher B)
"Its good!, Just kinda mellow, Great for watching TV"
The Mazar is OK. Great for watching TV. Not full of energy and not stupefying. Just kinda mellow. I'm still smoking your Mazar! Its good!
Mazar (My take)
I was very curious while growing this one what it would be like. I grew one Mazar on my indoor grow last fall/winter and it was a 'dud'! Not potent at all.
Well I am pleasantly surprised! Though not as potent as some of my stuff, it is still a stoney weed. Picked slightly early, it does not have the 'couch lock' effect or 'indica' high that it was intended to have, but it gives me a nice neutral high. It has a nice sweet smell and a somewhat sweet taste. The last Mazar I grew smells like the diesel fuel I to pump into my old Peterbilt or Freightliner Semi Tractor. Both that Mazar and this Mazar are from the same pack of seeds. In fact they are the 'free' seeds that came with the NL#5. Does anyone else get so many different phenos from the same stuff? The only one that is similar to previous grows was the regenerated Runt (NL#5) and the answer to that is obvious.
***Total weight on the Mazar was 4.5 OZ
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Bubba Kush (Researcher A)
"you did it right", "the taste is right....the high is good...you grew it right....the inhale is very nice....". "a little on the harsh side again, but we know why (sample was a bit too dry). "makes me eat", "a slower high, gave me the sleepy's", "the flush is perfect", a good 9.."
You did it right though a little on the harsh side, but we know why. The taste is right, the high is good, you grew it right. The inhale is very nice and didn't burn my lungs. My wife really enjoyed it a lot. The flush is perfect!
The last two are the best,(*see note below) and except for the dryness they are a good 9 so you should be very happy. Tastes a little on the hash side, which is the affy in there somewhere, love that taste!
*note from Woodsman - Researcher A is referring to the Bagweed #2 (Pink Lady) and the Bubba Kush when she said 'the last two ar the best' (I've 'rearranged the order of the reviews').
Bubba Kush (Researcher B)
"Three hits, Very nice smoke"
Tonight I tried the Bubba Kush and three hits and I'm buzzing. Very nice.
Kinda of a spicy taste. Very nice smoke!
Bubba Kush (My take)
This is my relaxing weed. Doesn't make me sleep (not at all), but it seems to me like a part body high and part head high. Has an exotic smell (kind of sour) and taste and is also getting better every day. The calyxes on this one are huge and the trichome, well I have not seen so many before (on my stuff). They were huge tall stalks with large bulbous heads. The trichomes on this one were just starting to turn to amber when I picked her (no more than 5-10 percent I would say, the rest are cloudy with even a few still clear. I think that by moving my remaining stuff inside before they were done maturing (too cold outside and wet), may have caused them all to slow their maturation process down. Seemed like in the few weeks they were inside, they changed color, but at a snails pace, a slow snail!.
This Bubba Kush was a small plant and was that way I'm sure, because it was started a couple of months behind the rest. Large (huge) leaves that turned purple as the weather got cooler. By the end, this was a entirely purple leafed plant. This one may not be as powerful as the Bagweeds 1A and #2 but it is close and perhaps in a more 'subtle' way. Great for a movie or for sitting outside on a nice day watching things go on around you or reading a book.
Looks great! Prettiest looking buds, turning a much lighter green now that its into it's second month of cure. At first, used to stink like crazy in the jar, now it's mellowed and the sour is not as sour anymore, more like sweet and sour now.
I wouldn't mind having this in my garden for all my grows. It was fairly bug free and gave me no headaches like the others did. Kept the soil 'in the zone' between 6 and 7 through it's whole grow. Wish I'd have started this one at the same time as the others. Would have had twice as much.
***Total weight on the Bubba Kush was 3.2 OZ#2 W/C
***Total weight for the grow was 27.8 OZ. I may have lost an ounce (approximate) during the water curing process. I lost a few ounces to the stem borers also (a guess). All in all a good haul. Was it worth all the work and effort? Yes! I've got some great smoke that will last me a long long time! Besides, I was able to share it all with you!
Thank you for checking out my Smoke Reports! I'd like to thank my two fantastic researchers for the great work they did and for all the sacrifices they made! LOL!
A big thanks to all of you who have so patiently waited for this. I hope I didn't disappoint anyone.
I'll most likely close the Journal in a 'couple of weeks' and will have more time then to visit with you at your Journals.
As always...your comments and suggestions are most welcome!
Woodsman
Smoke reports and reviews
Quick Note before we start..
The following are three independent reviews of each one of my ten different smokes. I will call one of them Researcher A and the other Researcher B (actual human Guinea pigs) with the third review being my own thoughts or comments. I'll do this one type of smoke at a time. Each will be accompanied by some corresponding photos.
Enjoy!
The ten types or strains are:
#1A
#1B
#2 (Pink Lady)
#1A W/C W/C-stands for 'Water Cured'
#1B W/C
#2 W/C
NL#5 from seed
The Runt (NL#5 that I regenerated)
Bubba Kush
Mazar
*Note
My three Bagweeds 1A and 1B are seeds from the same bag while #2 is from a different bag - both bags were from the same source in San Diego, CA. - their lineage is unknown. They were both 'street bought' and were both very good, though dry and somewhat seedy. Regular cured and water cured selections are from the same plant. Example: 1A and 1A W/C are the same, just cured differently.
Also the samples used by the two 'researchers' were cured for between one and one and a half months in air tight canning jars (unless 'water cured' W/C) Unfortunately the samples were over dried as a scare of mold fell on me! That's the reason I 'water cured' some of the bagweeds. Right after the 'testing', I re-hydrated all of my stuff by placing a small piece of grapefruit peel in each jar. They were all removed after no longer than 24 hours. I have very nice cured buds now and I'm sure they are 'less harsh' than the samples used. Unfortunate but it's done! Could have got even higher ratings I'm sure if I had waited and used the 're-hydrated' smoke.
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Bagweed 1A (Researcher A)
"this is an excellent pot, excellent high, great taste, citrus, love the exhale, this is a keeper for sure....hide this one away, just now wearing off....6hrs"
Very nice high on this reg cured bud. High is just now really wearing off and not bad on the munchies either, energetic, but relaxing. A minty menthol citrus taste. This is an excellent pot, not harsh, nice looking buds and great taste left on lips, citrus, love the exhale just a tiny bit to crisp, but just fine. The bud smells great, maybe some diesel or head
band in this one. Excellent high, just now wearing off at 6hrs! Great smoke congrats, this is a keeper for sure, hide this one away. Didn't even look
at the ash as I liked this one so much
Bagseed 1A (Researcher B)
"very nice stoney high, I give her an 9. good stuff!"
Smooth. After 4 hits a very nice stoney high. A good movie watcher stone. I give her an 9. good stuff!
Bagweed 1A (My take)
This is the smoke you want when your in a good mood and wish to 'leave reality behind'. A great choice if I was up in 'my mountains' fishing and camping. I have had negative experiences (two) with this one. I will not smoke this one at night anymore when I'm alone! I'm sure you've all experienced this before... You smoke, you become 'super stoned' and then all of a sudden thoughts begin to enter your mind! To some it may be paranoia, for me all the things I was supposed to do, or the things that I have failed to do try to enter my mind. Not a good smoke for me if I am the slightest bit depressed or upset about something. This one is so so strong and almost impossible to stop! Almost like your tripping, making you susceptible to having a bad trip if your mind is not screwed on right. Researcher 'A' said it was "just starting to wear off after 6 hours". Like I said, a trip! I will use this to 'escape' during the daytime!
I think it has a Mentholatum smell ('citrus' is used above to describe it by 'A'). If I wanted to impress someone, this is the one!
I'm sure for most of you this would be a great smoke to experience and it has for me also (daytime) when I can 'see' if I'm going to be doomed! LOL, I do suffer from depression and take medication daily for it. This one 'over rode' my meds!
***Total weight on all the 1A (including water cured bud) was 4 OZ
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*A note on Water Curing before we proceed
I've read many discussions about water cures (on the internet) and how or if they affect the potency of a smoke. Here is my own 'personal' take on it.
Take two identical buds (size and shape and weight) from the same plant, both have gone through the air dry and are ready to place in a jar for a regular cure. But we are going to water cure one of them while doing a regular 'burp cure' on the other. You'd have to wait about a month (at least) for the regular cure to be even halfway decent. The water cure is ready for smoking after you've cured it for a week in distilled water followed by a fast dry process.
Take your month old regular cured bud and put it next to your water cured (dried). They used to be the same size remember? Now we find that the water cured bud is a bit smaller than the regular cured bud. Perhaps up to 25 percent smaller. The reason the W/C has shrunk is because during the week that you had it submersed in water some of the plant material (leaves, stems, calyxes etc.) has deteriorated away. Like wet newspaper, it disintegrates. The Trichomes on the other hand didn't go anywhere. They do not (unless you really agitate the stuff) fall off the plant. Trichomes are what get you high not the green material surrounding it.
Your W/C bud is now 'concentrated' after losing some of the 'roughage' or as mentioned above, 25% smaller. You still have the same amount of trichomes though as you have on the reg cured bud. Smoke the same amount of each and the W/C bud will get you higher. Simple as that. If you place 25% less of the W/C bud in the bowl than the reg cured bud, they should be the same strength. So equal portions would favor the W/C. and unless you 'ration' the 'servings' accordingly this is what you will think. Most persons would just fill up the bowl, or roll a joint like normal. You see? Just concentrated more than reg cured bud of the same exact kind.
1A W/C (Researcher A)
"love the taste, this is a wow"
love the taste, esp. on the exhale and of course the color is dark, and i love that black look of the water cure. This is a wow!
1A W/C (Researcher B)
"Nice Buzz, comes on fast. I like it, a 9.5 rating" "I'm still stoned. Good shit! Long lasting."
No taste that I can identify.
Nice Buzz, comes on fast. I like it, 9.5
......I'm still stoned. Good shit! Long lasting.
Bagweed 1A W/C (My take)
What do I think of the 1A W/C. Well it's the same as the reg cure just that I, like everyone else, smoke the same amount of it and get that much more stoned! With this one, it could be down right lethal! Smells less and tastes less, but is extremely potent. When I was younger this one and the reg cure would have been right up my alley! Must be getting old now and am carrying too much negative 'baggage'!
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BAGWEED #1B (Researcher A)
"Would i buy it? yes, it is better than a lot I've bought, 8-9 overall with a 10 for looks and ash,initial head band effect, much like the kali, a keeper for me for
day use, not bad at all. Energetic rather than lazy high"
you really flushed it well, fine white fluffy ash, an outstanding job. Didn't really have an exceptional exhale, just clean
Inhale-a slight spicy to almost bland inhale, not what you did, some plants don't. Taste is not bitter, one initial bite, a little on the bitter citrus spice, but mild.
looks-a lot of bag appeal and very nice looking, it's visually very good
no cough, no raw throat, big plus,
Initial head band effect, much like the kali, or headband has.
Good daytime high that lasts about 2-3hrs. I could work while using, can drift on it or be right in reality. Has a fun and airy high, not so couch lock, but good with minor pain relief or anti anxiety, more of a head high though, creative, music, etc.
Overall a good strong 8-9, a 10 on looks, 10 on ash,
Would I buy it? Yes, it is better than a lot and had a good smell, and the look of the bag would also add to it. A day use keeper for me with an energetic rather than lazy high
Bagseed 1B (Researcher B)
"kicks butt, smells great, smell is really good, kind of spicy and sweet"
Kicks butt, tastes good...spicy....4 small hits
and I'm stoned!
I think Bagweed 1B smells great. Feels nice and dry too and I like dry.
The smell is really good, kind of spicy and sweet. Almost musky. My nose likes it too. So don't smell any green at all
Bagweed 1B (My take)
This one has been my favorite 'smelling' of them all. Really smells like some of the sweet smoke of my California days. Again I have trouble identifying the 'exact' smell. The two folks above mention the 'bitter citrus' or 'spicy and sweet', Perhaps an orange or better yet a grapefruit peel smell (though sweet). Like I said already, what I think of when I think of good smelling pot. Problem is that it is not overwhelming like some stuff I've had in the past. It is getting stronger though as we move well into the second full month of it's cure.
Not as powerful as 1A but not a slouch either. It is definitely an 'up high' and is a great 'all around' smoke for me. In potency it's not the strongest, but it definitely will get you there and you could 'function' on it 'slightly' LOL!
***Total Weight for 1B (including water cured bud) was 4.5 OZ
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Bagweed 1B W/C (Researcher A)
"very smooth, great high, truly enjoyable"
very smooth, great high, truly enjoyable....i love the color the water cure turns them, very different.
had a very nice taste even though a w/c and it burned my throat very little, but that was because of how dry it was.
Ash was clean, and did not pop or crackle a very good job
Bagweed 1B W/C (Researcher B)
"I liked it! Rating 8.4"
Really no taste, 3 or 4 hits and on comes a nice stoney feeling, however in 30 minutes it's gone, another two hits and stoney again, I liked it! Rating 8.4.
Bagweed 1B W/C (My take)
Also agree with both of them concerning the 'stoniness'. Very good and like the other W/C not too much of a taste or smell, though a feint glimmer of it's natural smell is still present.
Researcher A mentions the 'dark color' of the water cured buds. They are all a dark dark brown color and are rock, I mean rock solid.
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Bagweed #2 'Pink Lady' (Researcher A)
"absolutely great", "great flavor, kinda floral, and spicy, with a little diesel", "bit of sour flavor, so i really think it has diesel in it and the high is really nice", "between a high 8 and
a high 9"
Absolutely great....harsh...but we know why (a bit to dry) with great flavor, kinda floral, and spicy, with a little diesel taste, the exhale is the same way. The ash is absolutely white and fluffy like it should be with no snapping when smoked so the flush was great. A tiny bit of sour flavor, so i really think it has diesel in it. The high is really nice and lasted quite a while. Very nice! Between a high 8 and
a high 9.
Bagweed #2 'Pink Lady' (Researcher B)
"She's the best of the lot, I was on my 4th toke before I realized that I was stinking high. Nice, nice smoke!."
Smoking the Pink Lady tonight and she's the best of the lot so far! I was on my 4th toke before I realized that I was
stinking high. Nice, nice smoke!.
Tell you what, I sure do like it!.
Bagweed #2 'Pink Lady' (My take)
Well I thought there may be some diesel in this and I mentioned it way back right after harvest the first time I tried her. Now that she's cured (2 and a half months) I don't notice it as much. This is a pungent smelling smoke with character! I don't like chamomile tea, and this has that kind of a smell to it (at least for me) Used to think when it was growing that it smelled like overripe melons of some such. Not what I smell now though. More like the Chamomile tea. Not my favorite smell, but it could be very exceptable to others very easily. Just the chamomile I don't like. Tastes good, no tea flavor. Spicy hot taste perhaps. Not sure as usual! LOL Definitely tastes like 'something familiar' but I have a problem placing it!
Very potent smoke and is up there with 1A though I don't get all weird with it like I have on 1A a couple of times. It is definitely something that I would grow again and if I was into 'moving' something this would be one for sure. An early finisher, in fact the first one I harvested along with 1B. Those two have been curing since early November and it's almost mid January now, so two months solid. And this one is super solid as in 'tight.
Given the choice between this one and 1A (at night), I'd go with this one. Only because I am too old and have too many emotional issues to handle 1A! LOL I'm already crazy and don't need too much help! Several years ago I'd have taken 1A because it is so strong and I was able to handle it.
***Total weight on #2 'Pink Lady' (including water cured bud) was 5 OZ
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Bagweed #2 W/C 'Pink Lady'
"good 9 for strength, high is instant, lasted about 2,3 hrs. Great high, the exhale was like walking into a garden after a rain storm."
smell, or aroma is kinda like when you open a box of oolong tea, not overwhelming, but clear and with a slight fragrance of flowers on the breeze.
The taste, none really, the exhale was like walking into a garden after a rain storm though and just a touch of maybe floral in the air.
The high was instant, loved the high which.gave me squint eye pretty bad and lasted about 2,3 hrs. Great high!
What kind of a high? Up, a thinking high, a little laid back but not a couch lock only either as I enjoyed laughing.
ashes were nice and white
OK, a little on the harsh side, (cure) and due to drying to much
loved the black color it left. The only thing i really didn't love was the harshness (too dry). A good 9 for strength and I would buy it, and use a vaporizer.
Bagweed #2 W/C 'Pink Lady' (Researcher B)
"Hit's very hard and is very good.
A strong 9, My friend loved it too!"
I smoked that puppy! Must have been really stoned!
I got confused. Rarely, rarely happens!
No real taste again, but pretty smooth
Hit's very hard and is very good. A strong 9.
I saved it and smoked at different times. My friend loved it too!
Bagweed #2 W/C 'Pink Lady' (My take)
Well one of them says it's harsh and the other says its 'pretty smooth'. What it is is damn strong as in potent! This version of the 'Pink Lady' does smell more like 'Chinese tea' than the chamomile of the regular cured Pink Lady. You could smoke this outside and no one would smell 'marijuana' Of course the fact your smoking an odd looking 'cigarette' may attract some attention! Like burning tea leaves!
Great smoke as all the variations of my bagweed are.
Strongest of the three bagweeds is the 1A and 1A W/C then a very close second the Pink Lady #2 and it's 'watered cured brother'. 1B is not quite as potent, but is as potent as most stuff you'd find and it tastes the best of the three.
In my simple but very often stoned mind, I'd rate (for potency) the 1A a 10, the Pink Lady (#2) a close second with a 9.5 and then the terrific smelling 1B as perhaps an 8.5 in potency.
Not a bad outcome indeed! As a gift sent to me by an old friend in SD who said the stuff was nothing special! "Just the normal quarter ounce street weed we buy around here" . I'd love to let her try it now and see what she thinks of her old 'street weed'.
It's all in the way it's grown that makes the difference. If you've got 'good stock' in your bagseed to begin with, you can make it even better. I've tried and still try to pay attention to what is written here about growing from our great world class growers right here on the site.
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NL#5 from seed (Researcher A)
"good taste, good exhale, really enjoyed it, good mid range high, good day smoke, gave this an 8"
Good taste, a little harsh (dry), good ash and good exhale. Took this one around with me today and really enjoyed it. Didn't get me so screwed up that i didn't function, very mild, good mid range high so a good day smoke. You did an excellent job of flushing and also liked the flavor and smell.
The high was not outrageous, but very nice and could maintain around people on this. Gave this an 8, but
could be stronger, NL is not noted for a kick butt high. With all that said and done, you did a
great job on the plant and still a good day high.
NL#5 from seed (Researcher B)
Didn't do a thing for me, Nothing!
NL#5 from seed (My take)
Well I've grown a few NL#5's lately. Of the three grown last fall/spring (indoor), two of them were very good and potent, the third (Fatleaf for those that were around then) was not potent at all. This time around I grew two with only one from 'seed' and the other a 'regeneration' (reviewed below). While this is my weakest as far as potency goes, it does give a 'medium' high. I have grown 'non potent' weed before and this is not that 'impotent'. It does taste and smell very good, (like sweet fruit - perhaps grape juice?)
Not sure why Researcher B said it 'didn't do a thing' for him, but everyone is affected differently of course. I think it has some degree of 'highness' as noted by Researcher A. Thought the 8 given by 'A' was very generous though. It is the kind of smoke that would be alright for around the town use as you may not 'look' too stoned. It is not a knockout for sure, but is not completely 'impotent'. I'd give it a 6 or 7 on potency and a 8-9 on taste and smell. Would I grow NL#5 again.. Yes definitely. My Big Girl and The Runt from my previous grow were (are - I still have a little) very good. Not sure about it? Just read below about the 'Runt' ( NL#5 Regenerated - regrown)
***Total weight on NL#5 (from seed) was 4.3 OZ
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RUNT, NL#5 - Regenerated (Researcher A)
"A good 8-9 for strength, I would buy it to have on hand, card games, etc, so far the smoke is very good"
Smell is mild , floral, spicy taste was clean and gave me cotton mouth!
High-'high', comes on in waves , a good nine for strength, a good clean high that you could work with, calming good
for writing.
Ashes-now here is not as good, dark ashes mixed with white
it sizzled and popped all the way thru so it either was a very short flush or very little one, or was going to try to have seeds.
I also liked the appeal of the bud, good bag appeal. I'd buy it to have on hand. So far the smoke is very good
Runt NL#5 - Regenerated (Researcher B)
"Kicks butt!
Kicks butt! Got so stoned I messed up with an online purchase! I just smoked a piece of her. Saving the rest for later. Runt is good.!
Runt NL#5 - Regenerated (My Take)
Well I really like this smoke and I think 'A' and 'B' did also. This has a very sweet taste and smell to it (now). The Researchers had this after only one month of cure. It is at two months now and as is the case with all of my stuff, it has become more tight, odoriferous and tastier!
I'd give it a 9 for 'potency' while the other 'stronger stuff' like the Bagweed's 1A and #2 would be 9.5's.
This is my choice when I want to get very stoned yet be out in the world. Not that my eyes won't look like I haven't slept for a week (I would just wear sunglasses). Like it a lot! Great for watching TV and I 'do not' want to fall asleep! Not recommended before 'bed time'!
This NL#5 is from the same package of seeds as the other NL#5's I've grown. Some work and some just don't. Out of five grown plants, three have been very good and though they are all different phenos, they all taste/smell sweet to some degree, though they are all different. I would buy NL#5 again.
*note..
This second generation of the Runt is stronger than it's first grow. The previous grow was done inside with minimal lighting (100w HID plus several 26w and 40w cfl's). That smoke was good and stoney, but was 'fluffier' and didn't taste as sweet as this time around. As far as I'm concerned, unless you've got high wattage lighting (400, 600 or 1000w), growing in the Sun takes the prize. My Big Girl (NL#5) from the previous grow was a tad better than the Runt #1 (potency wise) but is not as potent as my latest Runt (regen).
***Total weight on the Runt was 2.3 OZ
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Mazar (Afghan X Skunk#1 75% indica) (Researcher A)
"My wife said she really liked it....on flavor, taste and exhale, as well as high, real good daytime smoke, a good 8 on our scale"
We both agree that it is a little harsh, (sample was a bit dry). The smell was nice, taste not too much, very generic, not much of a starting point in flavor, also could be the cure
*note from Woodsman..as I mentioned before, the samples were about a month into cure when tested, they all taste/smell much stronger now after two months in cure. Also the samples were too dry and since then have been 're-hydrated' and are now fine
Mazar is not my favorite, no matter who grows it. My wife said she really liked it on flavor, taste and exhale, as well as
high which we both agree is a good 8 because of the high. The ash, was pure white, a great job on flushing, just wonderful. A real good day smoke. My wife said it was a real great outside weed, and gives it very high marks on energy.
Mazar (Researcher B)
"Its good!, Just kinda mellow, Great for watching TV"
The Mazar is OK. Great for watching TV. Not full of energy and not stupefying. Just kinda mellow. I'm still smoking your Mazar! Its good!
Mazar (My take)
I was very curious while growing this one what it would be like. I grew one Mazar on my indoor grow last fall/winter and it was a 'dud'! Not potent at all.
Well I am pleasantly surprised! Though not as potent as some of my stuff, it is still a stoney weed. Picked slightly early, it does not have the 'couch lock' effect or 'indica' high that it was intended to have, but it gives me a nice neutral high. It has a nice sweet smell and a somewhat sweet taste. The last Mazar I grew smells like the diesel fuel I to pump into my old Peterbilt or Freightliner Semi Tractor. Both that Mazar and this Mazar are from the same pack of seeds. In fact they are the 'free' seeds that came with the NL#5. Does anyone else get so many different phenos from the same stuff? The only one that is similar to previous grows was the regenerated Runt (NL#5) and the answer to that is obvious.
***Total weight on the Mazar was 4.5 OZ
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Bubba Kush (Researcher A)
"you did it right", "the taste is right....the high is good...you grew it right....the inhale is very nice....". "a little on the harsh side again, but we know why (sample was a bit too dry). "makes me eat", "a slower high, gave me the sleepy's", "the flush is perfect", a good 9.."
You did it right though a little on the harsh side, but we know why. The taste is right, the high is good, you grew it right. The inhale is very nice and didn't burn my lungs. My wife really enjoyed it a lot. The flush is perfect!
The last two are the best,(*see note below) and except for the dryness they are a good 9 so you should be very happy. Tastes a little on the hash side, which is the affy in there somewhere, love that taste!
*note from Woodsman - Researcher A is referring to the Bagweed #2 (Pink Lady) and the Bubba Kush when she said 'the last two ar the best' (I've 'rearranged the order of the reviews').
Bubba Kush (Researcher B)
"Three hits, Very nice smoke"
Tonight I tried the Bubba Kush and three hits and I'm buzzing. Very nice.
Kinda of a spicy taste. Very nice smoke!
Bubba Kush (My take)
This is my relaxing weed. Doesn't make me sleep (not at all), but it seems to me like a part body high and part head high. Has an exotic smell (kind of sour) and taste and is also getting better every day. The calyxes on this one are huge and the trichome, well I have not seen so many before (on my stuff). They were huge tall stalks with large bulbous heads. The trichomes on this one were just starting to turn to amber when I picked her (no more than 5-10 percent I would say, the rest are cloudy with even a few still clear. I think that by moving my remaining stuff inside before they were done maturing (too cold outside and wet), may have caused them all to slow their maturation process down. Seemed like in the few weeks they were inside, they changed color, but at a snails pace, a slow snail!.
This Bubba Kush was a small plant and was that way I'm sure, because it was started a couple of months behind the rest. Large (huge) leaves that turned purple as the weather got cooler. By the end, this was a entirely purple leafed plant. This one may not be as powerful as the Bagweeds 1A and #2 but it is close and perhaps in a more 'subtle' way. Great for a movie or for sitting outside on a nice day watching things go on around you or reading a book.
Looks great! Prettiest looking buds, turning a much lighter green now that its into it's second month of cure. At first, used to stink like crazy in the jar, now it's mellowed and the sour is not as sour anymore, more like sweet and sour now.
I wouldn't mind having this in my garden for all my grows. It was fairly bug free and gave me no headaches like the others did. Kept the soil 'in the zone' between 6 and 7 through it's whole grow. Wish I'd have started this one at the same time as the others. Would have had twice as much.
***Total weight on the Bubba Kush was 3.2 OZ#2 W/C
***Total weight for the grow was 27.8 OZ. I may have lost an ounce (approximate) during the water curing process. I lost a few ounces to the stem borers also (a guess). All in all a good haul. Was it worth all the work and effort? Yes! I've got some great smoke that will last me a long long time! Besides, I was able to share it all with you!
Thank you for checking out my Smoke Reports! I'd like to thank my two fantastic researchers for the great work they did and for all the sacrifices they made! LOL!
A big thanks to all of you who have so patiently waited for this. I hope I didn't disappoint anyone.
I'll most likely close the Journal in a 'couple of weeks' and will have more time then to visit with you at your Journals.
As always...your comments and suggestions are most welcome!
Woodsman
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The best smoke report I have read. Did you give out a questionnaire to fill in for each strain?
Near the end you ask if everyone gets a major variety of phenotypes from seed batches. I am currently growing eight Bubba Kush plants from seed and have 1 plant whose growth is about 125% of the average while another has a growth rate approximately 50% of the average. I also have one that has lightly colored Sativa type leaves with red edges. I picked them all out of the same bag of buds that I got from a delivery service. I believe all but one of them even came from the same flower. What we must remember is just as two parents will not create a perfect copy of their child by making another, two plants will not create two perfectly identical offspring excluding of course identical twins which is where a fertilized egg splits into two.
Thanks again for the laughs and the amazing smoke report.
Near the end you ask if everyone gets a major variety of phenotypes from seed batches. I am currently growing eight Bubba Kush plants from seed and have 1 plant whose growth is about 125% of the average while another has a growth rate approximately 50% of the average. I also have one that has lightly colored Sativa type leaves with red edges. I picked them all out of the same bag of buds that I got from a delivery service. I believe all but one of them even came from the same flower. What we must remember is just as two parents will not create a perfect copy of their child by making another, two plants will not create two perfectly identical offspring excluding of course identical twins which is where a fertilized egg splits into two.
Thanks again for the laughs and the amazing smoke report.
Barry Manilow
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The best smoke report I have read. Did you give out a questionnaire to fill in for each strain?
Near the end you ask if everyone gets a major variety of phenotypes from seed batches. I am currently growing eight Bubba Kush plants from seed and have 1 plant whose growth is about 125% of the average while another has a growth rate approximately 50% of the average. I also have one that has lightly colored Sativa type leaves with red edges. I picked them all out of the same bag of buds that I got from a delivery service. I believe all but one of them even came from the same flower. What we must remember is just as two parents will not create a perfect copy of their child by making another, two plants will not create two perfectly identical offspring excluding of course identical twins which is where a fertilized egg splits into two.
Thanks again for the laughs and the amazing smoke report.
Thanks for the great report Woodsman it was well worth the wait! 37 ozs will tide you over nicely. I'm glad the journal will remain active for a bit too.
The above analogy isn't really germane, since humans aren't bred like domesticated plants and animals are.
The commercial seed business is much more so. When you buy a packet of marigolds they all look pretty much the same with minor variations. It is a stable, established genetic type that has been developed over many many years. You don't get one tall plant with thin leaves, another short squat one with fat leaves etc.
I don't think lots of pot strains are very stable yet. Adding to the confusion is that lots of growers try to replicate strains and come out with their own version of white widow or whatever.
IMO a strain should not be considered a strain until it breeds true every time. When a cross produces 'phenotypes' I think that's just a nice way of saying it's not stable and multiple different genetic plants are produced by one cross, but all are given the same name.
It's all part of being underground. I suspect established seed banks will develop more and more stable strains as time goes on.
My bubba kush looks so unlike Woodsmans or Tmacs, no way they're the same plant. It would be like someone taking petunia seeds and putting them in marigold packets. Someone may say they're both marigolds but obviously they're not.
What's most frustrating is if you grow a great plant you may never be able to find it again, even if you get the same seeds from the same supplier. Luckily there are so many other great plants to be had most of us don't let it bother us too much
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quoted from BlueDog: "The above analogy isn't really germane, since humans aren't bred like domesticated plants and animals are.
The commercial seed business is much more so. When you buy a packet of marigolds they all look pretty much the same with minor variations."
I disagree with your assertions that the analogy is not relevant on the basis that humans are not bred. The Nazi party had at least one human breeding program and the results were that it was very hard if not impossible to consistently breed the same traits even from the same parents.
The only way to get the exact same genetic stock is through cloning or regeneration. Their are plants that are in breed through back crossing to create In Breed Lines (IBL) this is a long process in which one try's to breed out as much genetic diversity as possible while retaining the wanted characteristics of the plant. However even IBL strains such as Cali-O which have been in breed since the eighties will not be exactly the same on the level of their DNA and can still show differences in characteristics. In other words it will only "breed true" for the characteristics that have been isolated. This is why there are still "minor variations" as the DNA is not the same. Beyond this there is always the possibility of genetic mutation from environmental or developmental factors.
I agree with you however that there are many people or seed banks out there that are trying to copy other strains IBL or not and they will never get the exact plant they are trying to reproduce even if it has many of the same characteristics.
Sorry to hijack your thread Woodsman.
The commercial seed business is much more so. When you buy a packet of marigolds they all look pretty much the same with minor variations."
I disagree with your assertions that the analogy is not relevant on the basis that humans are not bred. The Nazi party had at least one human breeding program and the results were that it was very hard if not impossible to consistently breed the same traits even from the same parents.
The only way to get the exact same genetic stock is through cloning or regeneration. Their are plants that are in breed through back crossing to create In Breed Lines (IBL) this is a long process in which one try's to breed out as much genetic diversity as possible while retaining the wanted characteristics of the plant. However even IBL strains such as Cali-O which have been in breed since the eighties will not be exactly the same on the level of their DNA and can still show differences in characteristics. In other words it will only "breed true" for the characteristics that have been isolated. This is why there are still "minor variations" as the DNA is not the same. Beyond this there is always the possibility of genetic mutation from environmental or developmental factors.
I agree with you however that there are many people or seed banks out there that are trying to copy other strains IBL or not and they will never get the exact plant they are trying to reproduce even if it has many of the same characteristics.
Sorry to hijack your thread Woodsman.