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Winter Weedy Wonderland - Auto Grow - Royal Queen Seeds
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You're sneaky.....Lady Cannafan...
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Your Worthy!You're sneaky.....
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The Thrips Saga:
I've been studying the movements of these nasty bat rastards. The ones with wings will take off immediately into the air. I can see them, barely...and they are very fast.
The immature ones with no wings will either skirt under the leaf, or more often travel directly down a vein and hide deep in the crevice of the leaf joints. They blend in so perfectly.
The photos show some of the damage next to the leaf veins on one of the girls, and a close up of their vein highway path. I watched one go down in there, but you can't see it on the pic.
I believe I have them under control and should be gone within a week or two as the hatch cycles have been stopped. I've been going in there and just sitting next to the plants for a few minutes, and will catch one or two brave enough to step in view. UGH>>>>
I've been studying the movements of these nasty bat rastards. The ones with wings will take off immediately into the air. I can see them, barely...and they are very fast.
The immature ones with no wings will either skirt under the leaf, or more often travel directly down a vein and hide deep in the crevice of the leaf joints. They blend in so perfectly.
The photos show some of the damage next to the leaf veins on one of the girls, and a close up of their vein highway path. I watched one go down in there, but you can't see it on the pic.
I believe I have them under control and should be gone within a week or two as the hatch cycles have been stopped. I've been going in there and just sitting next to the plants for a few minutes, and will catch one or two brave enough to step in view. UGH>>>>
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THRIPS continued:
Here's a very short basic educational video on Thrips. Below the video, in one of my photos, notice the dark round area behind the Thrip. That's their "poop-pee". (yep...I made that up. LOL)
When you are scoping for these pests you will see those dark liquidly spots in addition to the whitish/silver areas of damage.
In the video they note that after a second larvae stage, the thrip will drop to the ground to continue pupation.
Notice the round milky colored item on the right of the thrip in my photo. That could be a thrip egg. Their eggs will look like this and can be scattered around the area singularly OR in small clumps. (last photo example from google images)
Here's a very short basic educational video on Thrips. Below the video, in one of my photos, notice the dark round area behind the Thrip. That's their "poop-pee". (yep...I made that up. LOL)
When you are scoping for these pests you will see those dark liquidly spots in addition to the whitish/silver areas of damage.
In the video they note that after a second larvae stage, the thrip will drop to the ground to continue pupation.
Notice the round milky colored item on the right of the thrip in my photo. That could be a thrip egg. Their eggs will look like this and can be scattered around the area singularly OR in small clumps. (last photo example from google images)
What ghastly creatures!
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I just got fresh rainwater in, I'm baking a cake or two while waiting for it to come to room temp and then I'll be mixing 1/2 strength nutes for the girls. Up until now, I've been doing about 1/4 strength with a little more on the cal/mag which this FFOF seems to need.
I did not see a single thrip this morning. YEY!
Now I need to check the Viparspectra guide to see when to increase light to 75%.
There's always something to do in the grow room.
I did not see a single thrip this morning. YEY!
Now I need to check the Viparspectra guide to see when to increase light to 75%.
There's always something to do in the grow room.
Wow thrips are nasty critters. Happy to see you’ve defeated them. Always something to do but remember the light at the end of the tunnel, the luscious buds! Made sweeter by overcoming all obstacles.
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Question for anyone using the photone app to measure PPFD. It is a BETA version, I don't think there is one that is not a BETA yet?
I am very new to this app, and unsure about the readings. I have a Samsung galaxy S9 that I am using the app on.
When I use the phone just above the top of the plant, I get a PPFD reading of 420 PPFD on the tallest plant. The plants are not centered in the middle of the light path, so I get a reading that is outside of the center.
My Viparspectra manual shows in that range, at a light height of 26.2" and 75% power, that I should be getting somewhere above 500 - 601 PPFD. Seems the newest maps from them are suggesting a height of 28" in a 4x4 ft. grow tent.
So, is it possible that I am getting lower readings because I am growing in the open room, outside of a tent, and the light is spreading out more than concentrating in an enclosed area? Is this a silly question?
I am very new to this app, and unsure about the readings. I have a Samsung galaxy S9 that I am using the app on.
When I use the phone just above the top of the plant, I get a PPFD reading of 420 PPFD on the tallest plant. The plants are not centered in the middle of the light path, so I get a reading that is outside of the center.
My Viparspectra manual shows in that range, at a light height of 26.2" and 75% power, that I should be getting somewhere above 500 - 601 PPFD. Seems the newest maps from them are suggesting a height of 28" in a 4x4 ft. grow tent.
So, is it possible that I am getting lower readings because I am growing in the open room, outside of a tent, and the light is spreading out more than concentrating in an enclosed area? Is this a silly question?
No, that is a very good question - I tried that app and the readings made no sense in terms of correlating to what it should be so now I've reverted to my scale: bright, very bright and fekin bright lolQuestion for anyone using the photone app to measure PPFD. It is a BETA version, I don't think there is one that is not a BETA yet?
I am very new to this app, and unsure about the readings. I have a Samsung galaxy S9 that I am using the app on.
When I use the phone just above the top of the plant, I get a PPFD reading of 420 PPFD on the tallest plant. The plants are not centered in the middle of the light path, so I get a reading that is outside of the center.
My Viparspectra manual shows in that range, at a light height of 26.2" and 75% power, that I should be getting somewhere above 500 - 601 PPFD. Seems the newest maps from them are suggesting a height of 28" in a 4x4 ft. grow tent.
So, is it possible that I am getting lower readings because I am growing in the open room, outside of a tent, and the light is spreading out more than concentrating in an enclosed area? Is this a silly question?
I used to just bung plants under a 400w HPS start to finish so I don't see all these ppfd, vpd etc numbers meaning much
Are we the only ones around today LC?
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I go way back to home built CFL light fixtures, then to Hot azz HPS lights and forward. LOLNo, that is a very good question - I tried that app and the readings made no sense in terms of correlating to what it should be so now I've reverted to my scale: bright, very bright and fekin bright lol
I used to just bung plants under a 400w HPS start to finish so I don't see all these ppfd, vpd etc numbers meaning much
Are we the only ones around today LC?
I have a very old light meter that I used for photography back in the day, I'm going to dig that out just for fun. It's a vintage Kalimar light meter.
My photon app was reading low on my iPhone. Maybe about the same amountish? My issue was the glass screen saver I'm using. Had to calibrate the app to the phone and I believe it's fine now.Question for anyone using the photone app to measure PPFD. It is a BETA version, I don't think there is one that is not a BETA yet?
I am very new to this app, and unsure about the readings. I have a Samsung galaxy S9 that I am using the app on.
When I use the phone just above the top of the plant, I get a PPFD reading of 420 PPFD on the tallest plant. The plants are not centered in the middle of the light path, so I get a reading that is outside of the center.
My Viparspectra manual shows in that range, at a light height of 26.2" and 75% power, that I should be getting somewhere above 500 - 601 PPFD. Seems the newest maps from them are suggesting a height of 28" in a 4x4 ft. grow tent.
So, is it possible that I am getting lower readings because I am growing in the open room, outside of a tent, and the light is spreading out more than concentrating in an enclosed area? Is this a silly question?
The cal was weird. I needed something for a standard so I bought a cheap one for around 35 dollars and it did the job. The 35 dollar one would fail in a year so I took the batteries out and have it on the shelf. It may be of use one day again for the next phone but for every day use It'll fail too soon.
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I read the informational pages on the app regarding the samsung galaxy s9, that the app is using the "fallback" to measure light intensity because my device does not support measuring that with the camera "yet".
So, I'm going to recalibrate and see if I'm getting any different readings. Either way, I don't trust them to be accurate really.
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Yeah, so I recalibrated and am getting 650 PPFD now. LOL
I am going to do something besides that app, apparently my phone is too old anyway. I'm not buying a new phone for something like a BETA app.
I couldn't even see the app in the Play store, lol.apparently my phone is too old anyway. I'm not buying a new phone for something like a BETA app.
I have an A13 5G, and apparently none of the par meter apps using the phones hardware are compatible.
It was getting to be a lot of work for something I've never used before, and probably wouldn't use consistently anyway.
The way I read your question LadyC, it's one that @ViparSpectra would need to answer.
I've been asked that same question before by a guy to whom I had given a light. He planned to use it in an open room and wondered if the light dispersion would be the same since it was not being used in a tent. I didn't know the answer then and I don't know it now.
But what I told him was that it likely depended on whether ViparSpectra initially measured the output from within a tent or not. I thought, if they're initially tested in a tent then the expected intensity (and what we're eventually told to expect at X% from X number of feet above) might be slightly higher due to the reflective surface of the tent than it would be in a open room. But, IMO, the difference would be nominal if any existed at all.
I've been asked that same question before by a guy to whom I had given a light. He planned to use it in an open room and wondered if the light dispersion would be the same since it was not being used in a tent. I didn't know the answer then and I don't know it now.
But what I told him was that it likely depended on whether ViparSpectra initially measured the output from within a tent or not. I thought, if they're initially tested in a tent then the expected intensity (and what we're eventually told to expect at X% from X number of feet above) might be slightly higher due to the reflective surface of the tent than it would be in a open room. But, IMO, the difference would be nominal if any existed at all.
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Thanks for tagging Viparspectra! I forgot to do that in my post, and I think once it's been posted the tags don't work when trying to add one in later. Not positive on that, but I remember it being said a few months ago. Was always meaning to test that. LOL
I note that you thank me for tagging Vipar but not for my somewhat "brilliant" answer.
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My bad. Your answer made perfect sense to me. I was thinking the reflective surfaces inside the tent might have an effect on the measuring for sure.I note that you thank me for tagging Vipar but not for my somewhat "brilliant" answer.
No your bad. I'm just being silly!My bad. Your answer made perfect sense to me. I was thinking the reflective surfaces inside the tent might have an effect on the measuring for sure.
There was no meat on that bone of an answer I provided. In fact, it was no "answer" at all, just speculation.
I expected no thanks, just saw an opportunity to perhaps generate a chuckle or two!
