Winter Weedy Wonderland - Auto Grow - Royal Queen Seeds

[Gee64]

There it is! I was thinking I had to mix 3 ish tablespoons into one GALLON of water. Big difference between a gallon and a quart.
My ppm meter tops out about the same

I usually water to full saturation with water, let them drip out, and then water again, 1 quart of dolo-water in a 2gal pot, 3 in my 10gal pots.

Watering 1st with water breaks the soil's hydrophobicness so the calcium water can seep everywhere restoring full pot tilth. Remember, calcium is dual purpose. It's a nutient and a conditioner. Both will be low. The soil runs out before the plant goes low, so if you need it, nitrogen is also starting to lock out.

Your soil mix may require a slight bit more or less than mine, but you'll get the hang of it by watching the plants and using your refractometer. My amounts are a place for you to start.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

I usually water to full saturation with water, let them drip out, and then water again, 1 quart of dolo-water in a 2gal pot, 3 in my 10gal pots.

Watering 1st with water breaks the soil's hydrophobicness so the calcium water can seep everywhere restoring full pot tilth. Remember, calcium is dual purpose. It's a nutient and a conditioner. Both will be low. The soil runs out before the plant goes low, so if you need it, nitrogen is also starting to lock out.

Your soil mix may require a slight bit more or less than mine, but you'll get the hang of it by watching the plants and using your refractometer. My amounts are a place for you to start.

This makes much more sense now. I'm going to mix up a quart jar for each plant and do my regular water/feed without the cal/mag in it, then wait a bit and give them the Dolo.
I didn't get to the BRIX test last night, there's a lot going on at home and I have cauliflower ear from my phone. Today should be calm and allow time to do things proper.

I wish we had a one click way to save a post. Call it a Note Post or Favorite Post, then we can pull them up without doing a search on a thread. I spend a lot of time going back to be sure I read something right. I'm a horrible hand written note taker. LOL

 

[Gee64]

This makes much more sense now. I'm going to mix up a quart jar for each plant and do my regular water/feed without the cal/mag in it, then wait a bit and give them the Dolo.
I didn't get to the BRIX test last night, there's a lot going on at home and I have cauliflower ear from my phone. Today should be calm and allow time to do things proper.

I wish we had a one click way to save a post. Call it a Note Post or Favorite Post, then we can pull them up without doing a search on a thread. I spend a lot of time going back to be sure I read something right. I'm a horrible hand written note taker. LOL

I hear ya. I lose posts all the time and spend hours looking back for them.

One thing Azi stumbled onto, and I ran some tests on, is that dolo-water isn't fully disolved. If you mix a half teaspoon in a quart of water, the ppm's will climb over time, almost exactly doubling. It appears to be sort of slow release, so when you pour it into your soil, it will continue to release calcium for awhile. So be sure to only use it when the refractometer indicates that you need it, otherwise if you use it too often it will build up.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

I hear ya. I lose posts all the time and spend hours looking back for them.

I've not had a lot of luck with the bookmarks, but going to try again. Since the new software update, maybe it will be better for me. We'll see.

 

[Gee64]

I've not had a lot of luck with the bookmarks, but going to try again. Since the new software update, maybe it will be better for me. We'll see.

Me too, and I just edited my last post.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

Me too, and I just edited my last post.

Thanks, I read it.
The initial base mixture has a lot of sediment at the bottom of the quart jar. Does that eventually dissolve? I will be sure to shake it up or stir it well before using it, but just curious what that is.

 

[Azimuth]

I wish we had a one click way to save a post. Call it a Note Post or Favorite Post, then we can pull them up without doing a search on a thread. I spend a lot of time going back to be sure I read something right. I'm a horrible hand written note taker. LOL

That's the bookmark function.

I've not had a lot of luck with the bookmarks, but going to try again. Since the new software update, maybe it will be better for me. We'll see.

It actually worked better before the last update. More frustrating to use now. I use them a lot but am thinking about finding another way now.

Thanks, I read it.
The initial base mixture has a lot of sediment at the bottom of the quart jar. Does that eventually dissolve? I will be sure to shake it up or stir it well before using it, but just curious what that is.

Just be aware that you'll get very different ppm readings if you shake it up or don't. I always shake mine and then the dolo water I then add to my plants is a cloudy mix. Mine doesn't smell all that much, but maybe Gee uses his/her bath water as his base .

But, like he said, if you don't use all of your fertigation water and save some for later in the week, the ppm's will start to climb which you need to be aware of. The main storage jug of the concentrate will be stable ppm, but once it gets set free in more water, more will dissolve raising the ppm.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

Mine doesn't smell all that much, but maybe Gee uses his/her bath water as his base .

Thanks for the giggles with my cuppa.
And for the info!

 

[Gee64]

Thanks, I read it.
The initial base mixture has a lot of sediment at the bottom of the quart jar. Does that eventually dissolve? I will be sure to shake it up or stir it well before using it, but just curious what that is.

I'm not sure what it is. I researched prilling and it sounds like it's a chunk of dolomite rock that they coat in powdered dolomite which allows prilled to be both quick release and slow release.

I use the liquid and when I get down close to the sludge I toss it out.

When you shake the jar that stuff settles really quickly. Maybe next jar I will refill with water and see if I can disolve it more.

 

[Gee64]

That's the bookmark function.


It actually worked better before the last update. More frustrating to use now. I use them a lot but am thinking about finding another way now.


Just be aware that you'll get very different ppm readings if you shake it up or don't. I always shake mine and then the dolo water I then add to my plants is a cloudy mix. Mine doesn't smell all that much, but maybe Gee uses his/her bath water as his base .

I'll get you Azi. May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your sleeping bag on your next camping trip!

But, like he said, if you don't use all of your fertigation water and save some for later in the week, the ppm's will start to climb which you need to be aware of. The main storage jug of the concentrate will be stable ppm, but once it gets set free in more water, more will dissolve raising the ppm.

I wonder if the water has a saturation point at which it can no longer absorb more calcium, so dissolving stops/suspends, until fresh water is added. I know alcohol does. When I make oil I use Everclear to melt tbe trichomes off, and a 2nd rinse of the weed will still produce a fair bit of thc concentrate.

 

[StoneOtter]

What is your amount of dolo mix to 1 gallon of water? I'm having a tough time with this, it seems like I'm using too much to get it to around 60 or 70 PPM.
I would like to have someone elses' amount to guage by. But I think with me using rainwater that might make a difference??

I went unorthodox and put about a tablespoon in a quart and let it sit. When I wanted to use it I'd stir and draw 1 or 2 ml and add it to a gallon of water and use that to feed, I didn't check ppm's. I don't advise that and I'm changing to the following. The second paragraph is the key saying to raise ppm's only 5 to 15 ppm's of your gallon of rain water's base ppm. I may go with a heavier hand in the base mix if needed.

I think I was working like Gee and another with a heap more than the recipe. The bottom line is when we mix it into our gallon and up it the 5 to 15 ppm's.

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• StoneOtter
• Today at 4:21 AM

Dolo water recipe ala The Rev

 

[Lady Cannafan]

I went unorthodox and put about a tablespoon in a quart and let it sit. When I wanted to use it I'd stir and draw 1 or 2 ml and add it to a gallon of water and use that to feed, I didn't check ppm's. I don't advise that and I'm changing to the following. The second paragraph is the key saying to raise ppm's only 5 to 15 ppm's of your gallon of rain water's base ppm. I may go with a heavier hand in the base mix if needed.

I think I was working like Gee and another with a heap more than the recipe. The bottom line is when we mix it into our gallon and up it the 5 to 15 ppm's.

IMG_1776.jpeg

• StoneOtter
• Today at 4:21 AM

Dolo water recipe ala The Rev

Thank you. I was reading that when you uploaded to the gallery. I'll bookmark this. I am mixing the quart jar for application this morning. Plants will most likely need watered/fed today.

 

[Gee64]

I went unorthodox and put about a tablespoon in a quart and let it sit. When I wanted to use it I'd stir and draw 1 or 2 ml and add it to a gallon of water and use that to feed, I didn't check ppm's. I don't advise that and I'm changing to the following. The second paragraph is the key saying to raise ppm's only 5 to 15 ppm's of your gallon of rain water's base ppm. I may go with a heavier hand in the base mix if needed.

I think I was working like Gee and another with a heap more than the recipe. The bottom line is when we mix it into our gallon and up it the 5 to 15 ppm's.

IMG_1776.jpeg

• StoneOtter
• Today at 4:21 AM

Dolo water recipe ala The Rev

That's for use every watering tho isn't it?

 

[Gee64]

That's for use every watering tho isn't it?

Edit: Nevermind, I reread it. Rev's water starts out with a ppm value before even adding dolomite, so he only adds 10-15 ppm to get up to an overall ppm of 50-60.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

Sounds like the sludge is not something you want to use. Maybe filtering it before use would be a good thing too? I'm not opposed to a little extra time spent if it's going to be more beneficial in the end.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

On the topic of these plants. I think I see the start of flowering started on the Goats...think being the key word there. LOL
So, if these are starting to flower after the flip to 12/12, that's a good indication to me that they are Photo's.
If they are photo's, I won't be able to go back to 18/6 for the two that are Autos without sending the Photo's into reveg state...I think.
I keep reading that 12/12 for Autos gives a lower yield and bud size.

I could make a separate area for the Goats, but my electric bill is out of sight and I really can't afford to run another big light right now.
Thoughts?

 

[Azimuth]

I'll get you Azi. May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your sleeping bag on your next camping trip!

I don't camp so I should be good. I think the rules of curses is that it boomerangs back on the sender if it is not able to be used by the intended recipient. So, back atcha Gee!

I wonder if the water has a saturation point at which it can no longer absorb more calcium, so dissolving stops/suspends, until fresh water is added. I know alcohol does. When I make oil I use Everclear to melt tbe trichomes off, and a 2nd rinse of the weed will still produce a fair bit of thc concentrate.

Yeah, I think thats exactly what's happening. As long as you use enough in your concentrate to saturate the water, and extra just sits there waiting for more water capacity to dissolve into.

 

[StoneOtter]

On the topic of these plants. I think I see the start of flowering started on the Goats...think being the key word there. LOL
So, if these are starting to flower after the flip to 12/12, that's a good indication to me that they are Photo's.
If they are photo's, I won't be able to go back to 18/6 for the two that are Autos without sending the Photo's into reveg state...I think.
I keep reading that 12/12 for Autos gives a lower yield and bud size.

I could make a separate area for the Goats, but my electric bill is out of sight and I really can't afford to run another big light right now.
Thoughts?

12/12 for the autos and let's see how they do? Your choice, the bills are yours.

 

[Gee64]

On the topic of these plants. I think I see the start of flowering started on the Goats...think being the key word there. LOL
So, if these are starting to flower after the flip to 12/12, that's a good indication to me that they are Photo's.
If they are photo's, I won't be able to go back to 18/6 for the two that are Autos without sending the Photo's into reveg state...I think.
I keep reading that 12/12 for Autos gives a lower yield and bud size.

I could make a separate area for the Goats, but my electric bill is out of sight and I really can't afford to run another big light right now.
Thoughts?

Without seperating them I think your screwed. You could let the photo's reveg, then cut clones for a future grow with them.

Personally, if they were supposed to be auto's and weren't, I'd cull them and request replacement seeds.

I suppose you could move the photo's in and out at 12 hour intervals, storing them in a dark tent at their required "lights out" time, and back into the light at "lights on" time, but thats a lot of work.

 

[StoneOtter]

I don't camp so I should be good. I think the rules of curses is that it boomerangs back on the sender if it is not able to be used by the intended recipient. So, back atcha Gee!

A twist on the I'm rubber and you're glue stand. Very effective