WheelOFortune's - first turn

one f'n day its 60, the next its 80, then 45, then 75. i mean this past week has been all over the place!

the heat wave caught me off guard to how hot my tent would get when its 82 degrees outside. i have an AC unit but there is no need to run it when its under 70 out.

when i came home today i checked my thermometer, and it read 90 degrees. the wheel is always about 5-6 degrees hotter in the center because im only using one bulb. that would put it around 96ish degrees. needless to say alot of my fan leaves are yellow and burnt. at least thats what i think happened. ii'll post photos when i can. im really busy right now, and the lights are off by the time i get to get on here.
 
sorry to hear that maybe u can set a therm to the ac u could trim off the realy bad dmg leaves (burnt) just part the leaf might help it come back faster
 
its gonna be 60 again tomorrow, so i dont need the ac yet. just gotta watch the weather. i didnt know it was gonna get over 80 today.

also on some very sad news for me, my uncle has cancer in his pelvic bone, his liver and possible his lungs. he never smoked cigarettes or weed. He is doing radiation therepy and is going to be on chemo soon. he does not smoke weed regularly, but i'm sure he's tried it. hes lost almost 30 pounds in the past few weeks and has no appetite. i haven't asked him yet, but my holy shit strain would give even the sickest person the mad munchies. i sure hope my state would make it legal for me to help him ease his pain and help him stay healthy. Plus im not sure im ready to believe this, but i've read some interesting things about thc's effect on cancer.

anyways, just keepin it real here,
really angry at the government right now.
 
WheeloFortune said:
one f'n day its 60, the next its 80, then 45, then 75. i mean this past week has been all over the place!

the heat wave caught me off guard to how hot my tent would get when its 82 degrees outside. i have an AC unit but there is no need to run it when its under 70 out.

when i came home today i checked my thermometer, and it read 90 degrees. the wheel is always about 5-6 degrees hotter in the center because im only using one bulb. that would put it around 96ish degrees. needless to say alot of my fan leaves are yellow and burnt. at least thats what i think happened. ii'll post photos when i can. im really busy right now, and the lights are off by the time i get to get on here.
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It caught me off guard too - I had a LOT of mowing to do and although I had my garden area tilled, it rained a bunch for almost a week right after and THEN (lol) it occured to me that I needed to add better than a ton's worth of soil amendments before I planted it. So the past two days in between work I've tried to mow and to operate that shovel-thing (what a quaint form of torture THAT is) with the mercury pushing 90°F outside.

Bah, humbug! It's not even halfway into Spring yet!

A friend is trying to flower a couple of skanky bagseed plants in his "mobile" home and he said the digital thermometer he stuck on the wall about two feet above the tops of his plants read 99.8°F(!!!) and the only source of relief he had to give his girls was an old oscillating fan due to the electical situation in his trailer and him not wanting to either blow a fuse and plunge them into darkness or to burn his home down. He asked me if I had any suggestions and the only thing I could come up with (other than the somewhat facetious "move your grow UNDER your trailer") was to make sure that they have plenty of water because they're going to be transpiring a LOT of moisture and not growing much. Oh, and I suggested that he think about switching to a hydro setup in the future that allows his plants' roots to set directly in an EXTREMELY oxygenated reservoir so that they can take in and transpire as much moisture as they can for natural "cooling." I can remember back in the day coming home to the old house I used to live in to learn that the GR had hit mid 90s - and a few times broke the century mark - AND some of the tips had grown into the light (glass) and gotten crispy because I hadn't put together the ducting to air-cool it yet. And amazingly they not only survived but they piled on the trichs like their lives depended on it (maybe they did, IDK all of the benefits that they serve for the plants). Of couse I'm certain that they would have done much better with either 20+ degrees cooler temperature or CO2 supplementation (that came later), but they managed to prosper nonetheless. I would guess that had they been grown in (even the best) soil, they would have been dusted (goners), especially since due to my schedule at the time there were a few days when I didn't even have time to peek at them. I remember figuring that the reservoirs were losing GALLONS of liquid a day (and they were pretty much sealed except for where the plants entered them) because so much was being drawn up by the plants' root system. I actually cut the nutrients way down because I realized that at the rate they were sucking it up they were getting all of the nutes that they needed and I was lazy enough that I didn't want/need to deal with a salt buildup (and if you ever get the chance to see plants with little white nutrient salt crystals all over their leaves... pass it up, lol).

IDK what the above has to do with anything. Your thread just happens to be one of my favorites and I felt like participating. And it's late, I've had my meds and they haven't knocked me out but they have dropped my IQ by (guessing) 50 points... So I'm rambling.

BTW - I always kind of wondered if those grow-tents and -cabinets would make good Easy-Bake Ovens. I know that they say any space in a GR above the lights is wasted, but since heat rises I assume that there's a good reason to have an 8-foot room as a grow space instead of a (small) tent/cabinet.
 
WheeloFortune said:
also on some very sad news for me, my uncle has cancer in his pelvic bone, his liver and possible his lungs. he never smoked cigarettes or weed. He is doing radiation therepy and is going to be on chemo soon. he does not smoke weed regularly, but i'm sure he's tried it. hes lost almost 30 pounds in the past few weeks and has no appetite. i haven't asked him yet, but my holy shit strain would give even the sickest person the mad munchies. i sure hope my state would make it legal for me to help him ease his pain and help him stay healthy. Plus im not sure im ready to believe this, but i've read some interesting things about thc's effect on cancer.

anyways, just keepin it real here,
really angry at the government right now.
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WoF, man, you - and your uncle - have my sympathies and my heart goes out to you both. Been there, done that with family, friends, and when I break down and face reality and think about certain "symptoms," probably before long myself if I live long enough.

Dad died of lung (mesothelioma aggravated by "white lung"), lymph, bone, and a couple of organ cancers. (They say that there is NO pain in the human experience - jokes about natural childbirth and passing large kidney stones not even coming close - like bone cancer.) By the time he got to the point where he had to admit to himself and us that he was REALLY sick - as opposed to his breathing that had been slowly getting worse over the years, his body becoming crippled (for wont of a better term) over and above the natural process that slowly turns one of the strongest men I've ever known into a bent old man), etc. he was ready to enter the hospital - and the day after that happened his oncologist told us all outside of the room that, "We can't say for sure; he might have a few days longer than the two weeks that I've told him to expect, but you and he need to realize that it is past time to get his affairs in order and you need to understand that it's going to be very soon."

So the time to offer him MJ to ease his pain was past since he was already in the hospital. Luckily(?), Dad refused the morphine as the doctor said it would further depress his lung function and so instead of the two weeks, he lasted like 116 days before his heart gave out from the ordeal (think his pulse was over 180 for the last week or so as he labored to breathe).

Hardest thing of all IMHO was him trying to cheer US up, telling us that he figured he'd had a life that was better than most (the only time I ever saw him break down in my life was when he said, "But I'm not ready to leave you," to my Mom) and that he guessed that it was ok that it was over and that we shouldn't be too sad. And then he proceded to spend most of his remaining time trying to tell us the things that he hadn't had the time to teach us that he thought we'd need to know. X-Rays and our eyes telling us that his bones were turning to mush and still whenever one of us would come by to visit he'd (feel that he had to) make a point of getting out of the hospital bed and say, "Sit down, you must be tired, you look like you worked all day," and stuff like that.

Only thing that he said he really wanted that never came to pass was that he wanted to be home in his own bed when he left but Mom managed to "live" in his hospital room while he was there and he privately told me that he didn't make a stink about it because he didn't want them to be the only ones there when he went. IDK even how he managed to be in the hospital for that amount of time, for a while I kept getting told that he'd "soon" be going to hospice. Who knows? I know his doctors had many other patients - some with hope of recovery - and they HAD to be pretty busy but after the first month I noticed that almost every time I came to see him before work, on lunch, after work, etc. that his oncologist and often other doctors always seemed to be in the room chatting with him. Maybe they couldn't figure out why he was still there? I wonder if Dad ever got around to telling them what he told me: "When you've dealt with pain all your life, more pain is just... more pain. It's no reason to give up on living while you've still got the life left that God gave you."

If your uncle is like my dad, he'll fight until the end and not even think of it as fighting, just as living. I hope so.

But he's going to be facing the ultimate in pain. Anything that you can do to help him, from distracting him from thinking about it, letting him help you in any way he can - even if it's just you talking to him and listening to his advice - or whatever. And if he is receptive to MJ (perhaps something in a tincture or food product - he does NOT need to be smoking), by all means, provide it if you can.

And be there for him of course. Never let him forget how much he is appreciated by his family/friends. Help him find a reason. Often, that is what makes the difference.

Wishing you and your uncle the best....
 
ok, i'm getting requests to post the recipe for STS (Silver Thiosulfate Solution)

so heres what to do.

take .5 grams of Silver Nitrate
and 2.5 grams of Sodium Thiosulfate. (anhydrous) also called sodium hyposulfite or “hypo.”

mix each in 500ml of water (hopefully ro or you may get some precipitate)
it takes longer to dissolve the hypo than the silver. shake both vigorously for 60 seconds to be sure ( longer if its not all dissolved.)

you MUST add the silver solution to the hypo solution. note you MUST do it in this order, and stirr your mother f'n ass off. just so its clear: do not add the hypo to the silver.

this will give you 1 liter of concentrated STS. keep this in a fridge if you want to store it for a long time. (keep the powder in there too to save it). you have to dilute this down to 9:1 to use it.

add 100ml STS and 900ml of distilled water to a 1 liter spray bottle. this is what you use.

now you take a plant that you are ready to flower. a known female (hopefully no hermie). you spray her down until it runs off. make sure to do this away from the rest of your females. wait for it to dry, so you dont expose the others, then put it in 12/12 rigth away.

2 weeks later give it a second spray down. try to keep the temp steady at 80. feed it with a bloom nute high ih Phosphorous.

pollen should be flying 30-35 days after first spray, so you have to try to time it right when your other fems will be ready to accept pollination.

i have never used this technique on an autoflower yet, but i will. i am going to buy some short auto feminized, and ill just spray it at like day 21. then again on day 34.
if you are not using feminized autos, i would just spray at first pistil, then 2 weeks after that.

this method will make a female bud male flowers and pollinate PROFUSELY. since the plant was female, it has no male genes. if you use this pollen to pollinate female flowers, ALL of the seeds will also be female.

i bought 5 grams silver @ 10 bucks, and 500 grams sodium hypo for 10 bucks with 10 bucks shipping. thats 30 bucks. for that 30 bucks, i only use a small amount of what i bought, one batch makes 10 liters, each liter is enough for 20 mid size plants. thats 200 doses, and i barely dent the powder.

good luck, and happy breeding.
 
tor, thank you for the support.

your dad sounds like a great man. that story really brought a tear to my eye. We all have to go, it just sucks when you have to be in a lot of pain. F the government and their backwards idealogical war on things they don't understand, and don't really want to.


i am going to give my first try at a tinc when i harvest. i'll try it myself and if it works, i'll mention it to my dad and let him ask my uncle. my uncle (and my dad) live half way across the state so i can't really be there. I will try to go visit when i can. . . maybe in a couple weeks when my schedule frees up a bit.

my brownies work sometimes and don't sometimes. its frustrating because im a good cook and use a double boiler and use a lot of weed and i still get marginal results sometimes. i hope the tinc works better for me.
 
WheeloFortune said:
ok, i'm getting requests to post the recipe for STS (Silver Thiosulfate Solution)

so heres what to do.
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AWESOME! If this information isn't permanently at the top of some forum in the form of a sticky, it SHOULD be. It is safer, cheaper, etc. (IMHO) than using gibberellic acid. +REPs (I'd give you 2X if I could for this one.)

Moderators? Perhaps you could copy the post into its own thread and sticky it somewhere?
 
WheeloFortune said:
F the government and their backwards idealogical war on things they don't understand, and don't really want to.
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Someone once told me that they were useful to a person when the person didn't know which was the right decision to make but if the person already knew then there was no need to trouble the govt. with it.

WheeloFortune said:
i am going to give my first try at a tinc when i harvest. i'll try it myself and if it works, i'll mention it to my dad and let him ask my uncle. my uncle (and my dad) live half way across the state so i can't really be there. I will try to go visit when i can. . . maybe in a couple weeks when my schedule frees up a bit.

my brownies work sometimes and don't sometimes. its frustrating because im a good cook and use a double boiler and use a lot of weed and i still get marginal results sometimes. i hope the tinc works better for me.
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I was actually thinking about "green dragon" while mowing (guess the mind was looking for a distraction from the discomfort of the mower handle punching me in the stomach every time the wheels dropped into "pot"holes (lol) in the yard and the mower stopped before I did. Anyway, I was thinking that since alcohol is absorbed into the stomach lining as well as further along in the digestive tract, that things in suspension with it would tend to be absorbed faster as well.

I also got to wondering, what is it that if it gets on your skin will take whatever substance is with it along for a ride directly into your body, nitric acid? Probably not it, brain is done for the evening. Anyway, they make nicotine patches, "morphine" (fentanyl - actually what, 81x stronger than morphine?) patches, etc. Seems like someone would figure out what one needed to do to help speed direct absorption of THC - and all the rest of MJ's ingredients... THC is to MJ like Vitamin A is to asparagus (which incidentally not only has at least one strong anticarcinigenic compound, but also another that helps protect the body against radiation) - just a thing and only a fraction of the whole.
 
yeah, no one should be using gib acid these days. its toxic stuff.

a lot of pro breeders use this method. both chemicals are non-hazardous.
 
i agree that new methods of consumption are needed and welcomed. . .

but for some reason smoking it is always better to me.

i have high hopes for the tinc though, read good things.
 
sorry to hear about your unkle lost mine to lung can, well it kinda was everywhere. They got so many treatments that as long as they dont give up the treatments usaly wont i hope only the best there are lots that make it. From my own expince spend time with him and posibly make a few vidoes of u 2 talking of times u spent together.... that treatment sucks maybe plain a trip with him for after its all over so he has something to look forward to like big camp trip something to keep spirts up.

Just was some ideas if i said anything to offend u or hurt feels didnt mean to good luck man.
 
Man that sucks I lost my dad when I was 12 due to liver cancer and hep c, he was my coach and a mentor to many of my friends now who stayed in baseball and got scholarships but I didnt i could stand being coached by anyone other than my dad and now im 18 going on 19 and i sometimes wish he was here, i want my kids to have a grandpa but everything happens for a reason and i became a stronger person, I feel for you man Im sorry.
 
thanks top.
 
WOF sorry to hear about the cancer. Have you heard of Salvestrol, or Resveritrol? Very interesting compounds found in ancient diets but no longer found in the modern diets. These are natural compounds that are produced by ripening fruits and veggies to protect against insect, and fungal attacks. People on the ancient diets dont get cancers, but catch up to westerns cancer rates within months of being on modern diets.

Another interesting one can be seen googling "run from the cure"

Maxx
 
thanx maxx,

amazing shit! savestrols abd resveritol. thank you for showing me this! i will do some reading now.
I have heard of resveritol and vaguely knew it had something to do with red wine, but i never took the time to read anything about it.
 
ok, here's an update.

my fan leaves are burnt. is this from the extreme heat? did the heat warm up my res too much and make nutes oxygen and nutes unavailable? something else i didn't think of? eh i don't know. they arre still growing at least although there are some that look small and spindly. . . not the best clones perhaps? looks like all the spindly ones are strawberry cough. by way of size and production the holy shit is putting the strawberry cough to shame. not much of a surprise there, the SC is not exactly known for its yield, and the HS is a VERY good producer.

too bad its so harsh. . . we'll see what organic nutes do for it. :)

take a step into my tent. . .
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this pic is not so good, my cam is touchy about being steady, 40 bucks what can you expect?

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you can see the fan leave damage anyways.

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a little better. . . steady now. . .

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so frosty the flash is blinding

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