WestHippie’s 420 OG Hydro 1000 Watt MH/HPS

[InTheShed]

25 ounces is not too shabby! WH.

Next time try to grow enough to finish the pyramid .

 

[West Hippie]

25 ounces is not too shabby! WH.

Next time try to grow enough to finish the pyramid .

Thanks InTheShed
I hear that , I have 9 amps of led lights in the tent to try and match that light (hps)
19 ounces was my best till this .
As soon as winter arrives mh/hps is back if this doesn’t work!

 

[Skybound]

Amazing harvest West!!

 

[Derbybud]

Nicely done sir hippy. A few good meds in the cabinet.

 

[West Hippie]

Day 31 of 12/12 DWC
B-1
Water temp 67.1 down 1-1/2” Falling
TDS 1586 ppm was 1586 Static
Ph 5.5 Static
Perfect conditions
B-2
Water temp 67.1 down 1-1/2” Falling
TDS 1247 ppm was 1318 ppm Falling
Ph 5.8 Static
Hungry girls raise ec , no !
B-3
Water temp 68.5 down 1” Falling
TDS 1684 ppm was 1734 ppm Falling
Ph 5.5 was 5.8 Falling
Change bucket 50% nutrients
Connoisseur a&b 60 mL each less than 50%
Bud Candy 30 mL
Big Bud 30 mL
Calmag 15 mL
This is all I put in 1568 ppm, I don’t get it . 1115 ppm is a 100% of nutrients.
Ph 5.5 normal start
Testing tds meter , excellent 1507 ppm on the Hanna scale.
The only thing that I’m doing to the buckets is wetting a rag with H2O2 and wiping it out before I fill and nutrients!
It’s all a new batch of AN Nutrients and I shake the nutrients for 10-15 seconds before I use them . If I have to change out another bucket these AN Nutrients will rot on the shelf, I’ll put the MC in look at those girls healthy as you want ! Calibrate the ph meter on the money 7.0

 

[Skybound]

AN can't even compete with MC in the nute rot dept due to MC lacking water until used. You'll never have to worry about unused MC on the shelf spoiling. That's what steered me away from GH after years of use.

 

[West Hippie]

AN can't even compete with MC in the nute rot dept due to MC lacking water until used. You'll never have to worry about unused MC on the shelf spoiling. That's what steered me away from GH after years of use.

I don’t get it with these AN Nutrients, they’ve treated me right till this new order nothing is working right !
Dollars verse cents
AN verses MC
I stopped buying from (Dan)California and started buying from amazon. No telling how it’s stored before sales of the product!

 

[StoneOtter]

Super harvest West! Maxed out the tent? All heavy and dense looking too.

 

[West Hippie]

Super harvest West! Maxed out the tent? All heavy and dense looking too.

Thanks Stoneotter, ready for a couple weeks cure in the jar to try it out . The OG wasn’t right bought three seeds and gotten two different plants , mama said the prehistoric one wasn’t that good. I don’t know what part of the plant she had gotten , she likes picking buds up and hauling ass .

 

[Skybound]

I don’t get it with these AN Nutrients, they’ve treated me right till this new order nothing is working right !
Dollars verse cents
AN verses MC
I stopped buying from (Dan)California and started buying from amazon. No telling how it’s stored before sales of the product!

The same thing happened to me with GH, I used the nutes for years, but then the final year, a few of my bottles began to develop little green islands. I later learned that the organic chelators used in the micros, as well as added sugars can become problematic in certain conditions. I think it was the heat of the building, but who cares at the end. Salts, you won't have that problem ever.

 

[irie lion]

Impressive haul West, looks like a nice smoke!

 

[Boogerfoot]

next level!

 

[West Hippie]

next level!

Trying to get this much out of the same amps of leds ! In post 558 InTheShed put it up for me to help y’all get there !

 

[West Hippie]

Day 32 of 12/12 DWC
B-1
Mixing the MegaCrop nutrients
MC 6 grams to the gallon x 4 gallons = 24 grams
Pro CalMag 1.8 grams a gallon x 4 = 7.2 grams
TDS 1176 ppm
Ph 5.8
4 gallons of ro water
With the ph Perfect calmag it went to 5.6 in the 20 gallon reservoir .
B-2
Mixing the MegaCrop nutrients
MC 6 grams x 4 gallons = 24 grams
Pro calmag 1.8 grams x 4 =7.2 grams
TDS 1164 ppm
Ph 5.8
4 gallons of ro water
B-1&2 are now on MC
B-3
Still fresh AN nutrients
Water temp 69.7 down 1” Falling
TDS 1633 ppm was 1684 ppm Falling
Ph 6.0 Rising
I can move the time back to midnight to dinner to get more done each morning!

 

[West Hippie]

Day 33 of 12/12 DWC
B-1
Water temp 69.8 down
TDS 1223 ppm
Ph 5.8
B-2
Water temp 70.1 down
TDS 1183 ppm
Ph 5.8
B-3
Water temp 69.8 down
TDS 1717 ppm was 1764 ppm Falling
Ph 5.5 don’t get it was 6.0 is this AN nutrients or DWC ? Will have more time tomorrow to work on them .

 

[RAIN MAN]

Nice looking plants. The hairs look great. I got a couple plants growing outdoors with a good amount of pistils on them. Come check out my outdoor grow journal. My plants are more on the larger side. One mother plant Is over 4 feet, the other mother plant is about 3 feet tall.

 

[West Hippie]

Day 34 of 12/12 DWC
B-1
Water temp 69.0 down 2” plus Falling
TDS 1277 ppm was 1223 ppm Rising
Ph 5.4 raised to 5.8 2 mL base Falling
Says to lower EC
B-2
Water temp 69.4 down 2” Falling
TDS 1274 ppm was 1183 Rising
Ph 5.4 raised to 5.8 2 mL base Falling
Same as B-1
B-3
Water temp 69.4 down 2” Falling
TDS 1650 ppm was 1717 ppm Falling
Ph 5.5 Static
B-2 never had URB it’s roots are Snow White but the leaves show rust like the other two . All three had a pinch of skeeter dunks in them . Is the only thing different, the buckets have been changed three times in two weeks. I don’t think the 6.3 ph with a 30 ppm water would have done it . I put it in a spray bottle and rinse the roots well flushed the junk out of them such as URB and pieces of the skeeter dunks before I put them in fresh buckets! Pic of the tie down they were up in the light the last two mornings.

 

[West Hippie]

Oops these pics don’t go here !

 

[KCCO 77]

Day 34 of 12/12 DWC
B-1
Water temp 69.0 down 2” plus Falling
TDS 1277 ppm was 1223 ppm Rising
Ph 5.4 raised to 5.8 2 mL base Falling
Says to lower EC
B-2
Water temp 69.4 down 2” Falling
TDS 1274 ppm was 1183 Rising
Ph 5.4 raised to 5.8 2 mL base Falling
Same as B-1
B-3
Water temp 69.4 down 2” Falling
TDS 1650 ppm was 1717 ppm Falling
Ph 5.5 Static
B-2 never had URB it’s roots are Snow White but the leaves show rust like the other two . All three had a pinch of skeeter dunks in them . Is the only thing different, the buckets have been changed three times in two weeks. I don’t think the 6.3 ph with a 30 ppm water would have done it . I put it in a spray bottle and rinse the roots well flushed the junk out of them such as URB and pieces of the skeeter dunks before I put them in fresh buckets! Pic of the tie down they were up in the light the last two mornings.

Hey Hippie how r things??I have only been stopping over here for the last couple weeks I have noticed you keep you keep ph on the lower end of the slide for hydro. R u having Cal problems?? I know there is a real colourful chart floating around 420 but the Cal on the chart seems to b off. The rest of the chart is on point but Cal is not. In my experience 90 % of strains will do absolutely fine at ph 5.8 for Cal but the other 10% of strains that r Cal pigs will respond better at a ph of 5.9 or 6.0. Here is a few charts for you to compare

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• KCCO 77
• Jul 20, 2019

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• KCCO 77
• Jul 20, 2019

This may or may not help but it is something else think about lol. Keep in mind the plants in week 3,4,5 in flower r using the most cal in the whole cycle. For what it’s worth I set 5.8 on my ph controller in veg then 5.9 in pre flower then 6.0 for the rest of flower. It has been working well for me after I had my own cal debacle. Anyways good luck Hippie and with the jars you’re pulling down you will get this figured out.

 

[Skybound]

Calcium is about the finnickiest element we use. It can be difficult for calcium to flow and only does so when the plant sweats. If anything hinders this process, calcium is hindered. Also there are various cationic disruptions from the other Cats such as potassium, magnesium and ammonium. It's fairly critical to find a good ratio of those 4 which might prove extremely difficult with branded nutrients. In my grow, I have the ability to adjust all of my elements to whatever I want and because of this, I can dial these ratios into a more ideal range.

Here's an excerpt from Hydroponics, A Practical Guide for the Soilless Grower.

Calcium (Ca)

Content in Plants
Calcium content in plant leaves varies considerably, from 0.50 to 3.00% of the
dry weight; the critical value depending on plant species. In some species,
relatively little soluble or what may be referred to as "free Ca" is found in
plant tissue, with most of the Ca existing as crystals of calcium oxalate or as
precipitates of either calcium carbonate and/or phosphate. It has been suggested
that the Ca requirement for plants is very low (about 0.08%), similar
to that of a micronutrient, with higher concentrations required to detoxify the
presence of other cations, particularly the heavy metals, such as Mn, Cu, and
Zn (Wallace, 1971). Calcium uptake is dependent on its concentration in the rooting medium
and rates of transpiration as the Ca2+ ion is passively transported in the
transpirational stream. Therefore, factors that affect the rate of transpiration
will then affect Ca2+ transport to the aerial portions of the plant. Calcium
uptake rate is less than that for K but remains fairly constant during the life
of the plant. The rate of Ca uptake is also dependent on the counter-ions in
solution; it is highest when the NO3 - ion is present in the nutrient solution.
With maturity, Ca movement becomes restricted, and the influx into leaves
and developing fruit slows.

Function
Calcium is a major structural element of the middle lamella of cell wall; it
maintains membrane integrity, which is probably its major, if not its only
significant function in plants.

Deficiency Symptoms
Calcium deficiency primarily affects leaf appearance, changing the shape of
the leaf and turning the tip brown or black. New emerging leaves will have
a torn appearance as margins stick together, tearing the leaf along its margins
as it expands. Some leaves may never fully expand to normal size and shape
when Ca is deficient. Calcium also significantly affects root growth and
development, and when deficient, roots turn brown, particularly the root
tips. One of the major effects of Ca deficiency is blossom-end-rot (BER) of
developing fruit, a physiological breakdown of the tissue at the blossom
end due to insufficient Ca present required for normal cell development and
metabolism.
Calcium deficiency or excess occurs in the plant when in the nutrient
solution an imbalance with the K+ and Mg2+ cations exists. In nutrient solution
formulas with the NH4+ ion as the major source of N, this ion will act like K
and become a part of the cation balance, and therefore, affect the uptake of
Ca from the nutrient solution. One of the results of NH4+ toxicity is the breakdown of the vascular tissue
in the main stem of the plant that affects cell wall integrity, a Ca deficiency
induced by a cation imbalance in the nutrient solution.

Excess Symptoms
Calcium excess is not a common occurrence, although a high Ca concentration
in the plant may affect the relationship between the major cations K and Mg.
Calcium excess may induce either a K or Mg deficiency, the latter most likely
being Mg deficiency.

Accumulation in the Rooting Medium
With each application of a nutrient solution containing Ca and P to the rooting
medium, whether inorganic (sand, gravel, perlite, rookwool, etc.) or organic
(pinebark, coir, peat, etc.), a precipitation of Ca with P begins to occur, forming
in the rooting medium an ever increasing accumulation. Being colloidal in
physical form and in eminent contact with plant roots, a portion of this
precipitate is dissolved by root acidification and the released Ca and P as well
as other elements trapped in the precipitates provide a major source for these
elements for uptake and utilization. This partially explains why the effect of
applied nutrient solution on the composition of the plant with time becomes
less a reflection of the nutrient solution composition for most of the precipitated
elements, both major and micronutrient. although the common recommended
practice for control of the nutrient element content of the growing medium,
determined by EC measurements (see page 106), is periodic water leaching,
leaching that will not remove accumulated precipitates.

Concentration in a Nutrient Solution
The concentration of Ca in most nutrient solution formulas is around 200 mg/L
(ppm). Calcium exists in the nutrient solution as the divalent cation, Ca2+. In
stock solutions when the Ca concentration is high, depending on the presence
of other ions in solution, Ca can precipitate as either calcium phosphate or
calcium sulfate, and under high pH as calcium carbonate. By keeping precipitating
elements (P and S) from the stock solution and keeping the solution acid (pH
<6.5), precipitation is not likely to occur.

Nutrient Solution Reagents
The major reagent source is calcium nitrate [Ca(NO3)2•4H2O]. Calciuin sulfate
(CaSO4) can be used only as a supplementary source of Ca due to its low
water solubility (2.98 grams per L). Also, calcium chloride (CaCl2) may be
used to a limited degree at rates designated to keep the Cl concentration less
than 100 mg/L (ppm). Natural waters may contain a substantial quantity of
Ca, as much as 100 mg/L (ppm), sufficient to meet or provide a substantial
portion of the nutrient formula requirement. Therefore, when preparing a
nutrient solution using such water (frequently referred to as hard water), the
quantity of Ca contributed by the source water should be determined so that
the proper Ca concentration in solution is not exceeded.