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I don't run DWC, but why would you ever dilute your nutes by adding 0 PPM water?
I would think so.
WestHippie’s 420 OG Hydro 1000 Watt MH/HPS
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kentboy1296
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Couldn't u plug into 1 of the inkbird humidity controller? Thats what i did. Got 1 of those dehumidifiers that just had 1 button (on/off) was sucking to much out, so got 1 of those and u can set humidity
Skybound
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Osmotic pressure, if the media/substrate gets too salty, it will pull water and salt from the plant instead of the plant doing the pulling.
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With The AN Nutrients I started letting the reservoir run down . The nutrients tds normal numbers of 1115 ppm would turn into 2200 ppm by the time it was down 8 gallons plus in four days . Since then 5 years later I’m still topping it every day keeping the water at the same level it started each week. As I figured I could get an exact count on the tds ! Back to the 2200 ppm you would top that off with more
nutrients?? I’ll stop with this question!
nutrients?? I’ll stop with this question!
Damned nice grow. Hope I can get mine to look 1/2 that good. Hydro just seems to complicated since you have to monitor & adjust things all the time. I'm curious if you'll get the 15 oz. or not. If I ever get a plant that puts out 15 oz. I'll make a poster print of it & frame it ....LOL. I'm still trying to break the 5.5 oz. mark. I think I will this grow.
Skybound
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IDK if this was directed at me or shed, but I aim to not deviate too far from where I started from. If reservoir tds goes up, the plant is eating less either by choice or the loss of ability to uptake what's needed. Of course you can also make contingencies for evaporation, but I am most interested in what the starting EC was for that rez.
To grow one pound plants, veg for 10-12 weeks, then start bloom. If you veg for long, it's not difficult to consistently take a dry pound per plant, genetics permitting of course.
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Day 53 of 12/12
Outside temp 83 humidity 74 S10 mph
Building temp 78.1 humidity 68%
Tent temp 81.5 humidity 67%
Canopy temp 83.2
Water temp 70.0 down 2+ gallons Falling
TDS 647 ppm was 672 ppm Falling
Ph 5.78 Rising
Outside temp 83 humidity 74 S10 mph
Building temp 78.1 humidity 68%
Tent temp 81.5 humidity 67%
Canopy temp 83.2
Water temp 70.0 down 2+ gallons Falling
TDS 647 ppm was 672 ppm Falling
Ph 5.78 Rising
All I can say dude is Moster. I hope u have some good scissors and friends to help you give Godzilla final trim..
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Day 53/Day 18 of 12/12
B-1
Water temp 70.3 down 1” Falling
TDS 1398 ppm was 1455 ppm Falling
Ph 5.6 Rising
B-2
Water temp 70.5 down 1/2”
TDS 1360 ppm was 1392 ppm Falling
Ph 5.5 Static
B-3
Water temp 70.5 down 1” Falling
TDS 843 ppm was 869 ppm Falling
Ph 5.6 ?
B-1
Water temp 70.3 down 1” Falling
TDS 1398 ppm was 1455 ppm Falling
Ph 5.6 Rising
B-2
Water temp 70.5 down 1/2”
TDS 1360 ppm was 1392 ppm Falling
Ph 5.5 Static
B-3
Water temp 70.5 down 1” Falling
TDS 843 ppm was 869 ppm Falling
Ph 5.6 ?
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Mine must eat by choice , I’d have to go to 20% Nutrients of the manufacturers recommended dosing to get by without topping the reservoir off . Even at 50% the plants drank more water and concentrated the nutrients!
As you can see it’s either the light or the URB made these plants take on nutrients like I never had .
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Thanks Sparkey there is three girls in there with one bare spot , top right that would have iced the cake ! Mama and I are the trimmers , actually enjoy doing it . Lock the building down turn on rock and roll!
Skybound
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When they're healthy and growing efficiently, they'll want to take in more and more. My studies are leading me to believe that nutrient density in healthy plants is a great thing and the only way to achieve nutrient density is to increase the amount of nutes. Due to convos here with you and Shed, as well as several other references, I am now running my nutes at a TDS range I've never in all my years of growing in rock wool, above 900. As well as high brix, I am trying to increase nute density in hopes of better achieving that. I am very much involved in the minor adjustments I make at each revision to my feed chart, tweaking any of the macros and secondaries every couple of weeks in a perpetual grow, I am able to learn 4 months of experience in one month. I only plan to be in hydro another couple of months but I still hope to learn a truly ideal ratio before exiting hydro for at least a year or two.
Cool; Because the 2 Photo's I started with my 6 Auto's will be in there vegging that long.
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The only reason for running my nutrients above 900 was the manufactures . I came and ran 25% nutrients thru the 12/12 stage in my first grow here . 11 oz. Ran 50% on the second grow and had gotten 15oz. This grow I did one week at 100% and wasted half of it in a week!
What is your tds of left over nutrients each change ?
Skybound
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That's a very complex answer as I have changed my feed charts 6 times now since starting the high brix hydro quest. This most recent approach, I am restraining my inner control freak and allow it to climb and so far it went from 960 to start to 1050. If I feel the difference is getting out of hand I will hit it with RO to get it back closer to the origin. FYI, in my previous revisions, I was always holding it to the origin and only allow it to deviate 20-30 TDS. It's my experience that my earlier feed charts were better in the respect that the deviation throughout the week was lower than the origin, not higher as it's been the higher I go. By higher, I mean increasing elemental ppm in search of an ideal ratio and adjusting based on what I see in the leaves.
I think it's more about how the nutrient blend ratio jives with your media than TDS in the water. If any of the elements are too concentrated or lacking in relation to other elements, there will likely be lockout conditions. I would assume nutrient manufacturers account for this, but they can't predict which media the substrate will be and different media behaves differently. Coco and Peat both have issues with there being too much K and Na that the media needs to have those flushed out and replaced with other favored cations such as calcium and/or mag. I think rockwool might have a thing about carbonate, but can't remember.
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Day 54 of 12/12
Outside temp 81 humidity 82% SSW 10 mph
Building temp 78.3 humidity 69%
Tent temp 81.3 humidity 68%
Canopy temp 82.7
Water temp 70.8 down 2+ gallons Falling
TDS 572 ppm was 647 ppm Falling
Ph 5.84 Rising
Will check the trichs shortly
Outside temp 81 humidity 82% SSW 10 mph
Building temp 78.3 humidity 69%
Tent temp 81.3 humidity 68%
Canopy temp 82.7
Water temp 70.8 down 2+ gallons Falling
TDS 572 ppm was 647 ppm Falling
Ph 5.84 Rising
Will check the trichs shortly
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Day 53/day 19 of 12/12 DWC
B-1
Water temp 71.2 down 1” Falling
TDS 1395 ppm was 1398 ppm Static
Ph 5.6 Static
B-2
Water temp 71.5 Static level
TDS 1390 ppm was 1368 ppm Rising
Ph 5.6 Static
B-3
Water temp 71.6 down 1” Falling
TDS 835 ppm was 843 ppm Falling
Ph 5.6 Static
Poinsettias pic
B-1
Water temp 71.2 down 1” Falling
TDS 1395 ppm was 1398 ppm Static
Ph 5.6 Static
B-2
Water temp 71.5 Static level
TDS 1390 ppm was 1368 ppm Rising
Ph 5.6 Static
B-3
Water temp 71.6 down 1” Falling
TDS 835 ppm was 843 ppm Falling
Ph 5.6 Static
Poinsettias pic
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Day 54 of 12/12
Everything to the left and back are 50% milky with maybe 20% Amber. The prehistoric one still has clear trichs on the opening of the tent.
Everything to the left and back are 50% milky with maybe 20% Amber. The prehistoric one still has clear trichs on the opening of the tent.
Hants420grower
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Beautiful grow west !
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Where have you been ? I still have my critical purple seeds , didn’t get a smoke report!