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[OldMedMan]

Drive bye Pop's hope you got your jars filling up with good med's. I'm going to order some ore Church again myself this month. I hear about them seeds Fish Cakes has. I also feel those seeds are toast. I knocied myself that if they start to grow a tail then stop shortly after that tap root starts to show, 90% die. Xlr is telling ya the truth. Least all I've read about older seeds. A match box they claim works. I've tried it before with some old stock I used to have and seemed to help raise germination rates go from 35% to about 60%. Those seeds were like 5-6 years old. Maybe older. Seeds can last for 10 years if stored rite. Dry and cool and dark. Pops; I am going to try to get ahold of ya later.

Keepem Green

Hey Sprout! Man thanks for your take on those seeds. They sound like a bad lot. That should let Fish Cake know he's not by himself with those seeds.

Hey that's good to know about what Xlr8 said about the match box works. Old seeds need special treatment. Just like us!

I 'm glad your going to grow our girl Church again. Stay down you old rascal!

 

[OldMedMan]

OMG OMM, did you try to lure me over? I guess I was so caught up in my noobiness I didn't even notice. Better late than never but I made it. Thanks for the kind words but what could I add or offer but a few laughs every now and then. I am glad our paths have crossed cyberly and I consider you a friend, same with thsea.

Yep, sure did, You were just finding your way around. You too Queen. We both love you to bits.

 

[CronicHempHog]

hey where you at OMM?

 

[OldMedMan]

hey where you at OMM?

Watching TV with Jo...our time together most week day nights.

You can come earlier on wed if you want to.

 

[fish cake]

thankyou everyone for the info. and I agree omm should get the nod for member of the month! its nice to get high with a little help from my freinds

 

[OldMedMan]

thankyou everyone for the info. and I agree omm should get the nod for member of the month! its nice to get high with a little help from my freinds

Any time fish cake....all is one!

 

[Alaskan1]

Hey A1, your just in time...I just fired up my vape

Pull up a chair and stay awhile Tonight we're smoking Bubblelicious. A good smoke after a very long cure.

It does move along pretty well. I've made allot of new and old friends over the years and they like to look in. I'm very fortunate !

WR is suppose to be killer smoke......I hope for our sake, it is. She sure is a beautiful thing to watch grow.

Glad you could find the time to look in. I know your busy with two grows going.

2 grows has turned to 3, plus mothers plus clones lol

 

[Alaskan1]

Hi CF! That's the way I did it too and stared to have trouble just like you have.
My solution came from Xlr8. Here is what he posted in his journal:

How I germinate seeds:

I really like Rapid Rooter plugs. I've been germinating seeds in them since I started growing, and now use them for cloning, too. They're great as they can be used to germinate for soil or hydro, and easy to use. They contain important micronutrients and beneficial organisms to stimulate rapid root development. They have a really nice balance between moisture retention and airiness.

Here's my process:

I soak seeds for a few hours in a glass of RO water. The Rapid Rooter is soaked overnight in a glass of RO water.

Making sure my hands are clean and sterile, I shake the excess moisture out of the rapid rooter, or give it a gentle squeeze. Basically, you want them to be "moist" but not soaked/saturated.

I take a sterile tweezers, squeeze it together, and I stick it into the hole of the rapid rooter while I gently twist it around some. I've had better luck if I deepen the hole slightly, and loosen it up a little inside the rooter plug. You could also use a pen, etc. Basically, just loosen it up and make it about a 1/4" deeper than they come from the factory.

I use a clean pen cap as a tool to scoop the seed from the cup of water, and place it into the rooter. I used to do the "paper towel" method of "pre-germinating" seeds, but it is better to plant them directly in the rapid rooter (or whatever medium you use). You will have better success, and quicker development if you skip the whole paper towel thing, in my experience. When putting it into the rooter plug, I put it in pointy end up (hinged end down). Positioning it this way will allow the taproot to make the turn it needs to, and will put the seed in a better position to succeed and remove it's "helmet".

I place the seed about half way down into the rooter (again pointy end up) and then I tear a small piece of rooter plug to cover the hole on the rooter. It should not be "jammed" in there, but placed in somewhat loosely. The hole should be fully covered to not allow light in.

I place the plug in a humidity dome, under t5's. I don't use a seedling heat mat (only for clones and not directly under). I mist the dome periodically, but high RH isn't needed to germ seeds. The rooters shoudn't be allowed to fully dry, and should be moistened periodically with plain RO water.
Pre-soak seeds in glass for a few hours
Pre-soak rooter plug 12-24 hours (probably doesn't need to be that long)
Use RO water from store - do not PH balance it
Shake/squeeze out excess moisture in the rooter
Use a tweezers or pen to loosen up the hole, and make it slightly deeper.
Position seed in the rooter plug, pointy end up
Cover the hole on the rapid rooter plug by tearing a small piece of the plug, and loosely covering the hole.
Place rapid rooter, with seed in it, inside humidity dome, under flourescent lights (I use T5's).
Rooter plugs should be moistened with plain RO water periodically, but only moistened
Heat mat is not needed - and it can dry the rooter plug too fast. Humidity only needs to be around 50%. I just mist the humidity dome periodically.
No nutrients are needed with seedlings until the 3rd set of true leaves.
I transplant when roots are showing through the bottom and sides of rooter plugs

I've had 100% success over the last year or so this way. There are lots of ways to do it successfully, this is just mine. X

+ reps to you for this excellent post OMM!

 

[OldMedMan]

2 grows has turned to 3, plus mothers plus clones lol

Funny how that happens. When we start a grow, things just happen along the way.

Guess I'll be looking at three now!

Thanks for the +reps on my repost of Xlr8's wonderful post! Should go to him...but I'll take em.

 

[OldMedMan]

Hi Everyone!


After some long talks with my friend OG13, I have decided NOT to do the SOG I had planed.

I just don't think I am physically up to it. Creating mother plants and all the clones I will need to do it properly. As you all know I have breathing and stamina problems. Part of the the decision was a long Doctors visit I had today. I am getting better, however it's going to be a long haul. This saddens me a great deal....however...I will grow all the plants I was going to use in the SOG, but it will be the old fashion way, like my other plants I am growing. I should be able to handle them that way. There is no way that I will quit growing until I drop.

Does anyone need 30 painted 2 litter bottles?

On second thought, I may just try a 2 litter grow, just for the hell of it and see what happens.

 

[Alaskan1]

I don't want TWO litters, let alone one !!!!

Well my work for tonight is done. I don't have what I need and home depot is closed! Building a drying area in my big azz closet and am short all the 2x2's I need. Besides. If I start this skill saw at this hour my wife would kill me........women sheesh lol

 

[OldMedMan]

I don't want TWO litters, let alone one !!!!

Well my work for tonight is done. I don't have what I need and home depot is closed! Building a drying area in my big azz closet and am short all the 2x2's I need. Besides. If I start this skill saw at this hour my wife would kill me........women sheesh lol

Will do A1.

To bad you don't have the 2x4s you need....no comment on the other thing..dangerous stuff.

 

[CronicHempHog]

err i dont mean to correct you or anything but he said he wanted to use 2x2's
and i dont think you want litters, i heard you mention something about a spell checking thing to someone
i think its litres
im just messing with ya OMM
but it is litres and he wants 2x2's
lol
see ya soon get some rest

 

[OldMedMan]

A Picture Update

Day 54 of Bloom

The White Widow

The Vintage

The White Russian

The SAGE

The NYCD

Lucy

The Lemon Skunk....Had to tie her top cola up, she was falling over.

The Church

end

 

[Closet Farmer]

Great looking plants OMM!! I bet you are going to be busy with tying up those tops!! I have never had a White Russian look as good as yours does. That is going to give you a run for your money with the tying up the colas. I noticed the Church looks like it could be tied up already too! Looks like you are in for a big haul! I see the NYCD leaves pointing up and looking healthy!!
If you feel like a 30 sog grow would be too overwhelming for you. Why don't you just do a 15 or 10 sog set up? And see what happens?

 

[fish cake]

so pretty

 

[OldMedMan]

Great looking plants OMM!! I bet you are going to be busy with tying up those tops!! I have never had a White Russian look as good as yours does. That is going to give you a run for your money with the tying up the colas. I noticed the Church looks like it could be tied up already too! Looks like you are in for a big haul! I see the NYCD leaves pointing up and looking healthy!!
If you feel like a 30 sog grow would be too overwhelming for you. Why don't you just do a 15 or 10 sog set up? And see what happens?

Thanks CF !. Yep, tomorrow night I'll be tying up the Church.
She is developing some heavy buds. The NYCD is recovering...mean me has topped her already. It wouldn't be a true SOG unless I have a Mother plant and cutting off of her.
I am thinking 2 liter bottles with seeds just to see what happens. I think I can cope with that! Damn, I told myself no more experimenting.

 

[OldMedMan]

so pretty

Thank You Fish Cake!

 

[Bassman59]

wow, the russian is all bud baby! doing great OMM!

 

[OldMedMan]

wow, the russian is all bud baby! doing great OMM!

Yes she is, pretty amazing to me too! Thanks Bassman59.