My daughter's rule is "never look the crazies in the eye." I think this might apply here.
Weasel Forges Ahead
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My daughter's rule is "never look the crazies in the eye." I think this might apply here.
Wow your plants are looking nice man 
Sorry to start a conversation I was just wanting some homemade jelly
Speaking of which you can put him outside instead of up in the attic the bear won't be able to stand the noise either I'll go down to a pint jar of that jelly that's my final offer take it or leave it hurry up and decide too because some little old lady from Pasadena who only listened to loud mouthed idiots at church every Sunday made me an offer on him!
Sorry to start a conversation I was just wanting some homemade jelly
Speaking of which you can put him outside instead of up in the attic the bear won't be able to stand the noise either I'll go down to a pint jar of that jelly that's my final offer take it or leave it hurry up and decide too because some little old lady from Pasadena who only listened to loud mouthed idiots at church every Sunday made me an offer on him!
SnarlyWeed
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Not sure I'm following your train of thought there Weasel. As it stands right now, if you have a script, you can apply to Health Canada for a "personal home grow" It's not perfect, they limit you to 5 indoor plants or 2 outdoor per daily gram in your script. So 3 gms a day would allow you 15 plants indoors. And allowed to store a couple pounds of processed in my case.
Nobody knows for sure about recreational grows that I am aware of, but even if it is allowed, recreational won't be legal til summer of 2018.
Ok, this applies to personal home grows.
I'm not a kid, I'm a retired senior. I don't like facebook, but I am much more comfortable to be able to grow my own legally, not have to get weed from the street, LP's or dispensaries. I make use of my crop as much as possible. I make my own infused oils from shake. Nobody outside of this forum knows I grow.
Anyways, just don't seem to get it why you don't want legal. Unless of course, it would cut into your market.
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Went back to bed to add another hour to my weekly ration of sleep.
Well, first off - your last comment.
.... sounds insulting but anyway the answer to that is No.
I'm not a financially motivated person. Money is about the last thing on my list of motivations in life- or I'd still be working for that dickhead, who offered to double my pay, before I quit.
And no I don't have an interest in singlehandedly controlling the national or local price of cannabis. The lower the price the better. Better if it's free. As it is for my friends and whoever else I give it away to. And I give away most of it. I'll continue to make trades regardless of the price. Money is very rarely a trade for me. Our local people are very heavily trade oriented and since we still have a lot of resources here- there is a lot to trade. It's just the way our culture works.
I love growing. I'd still be having fun with a smaller garden- but I'm having a lot of fun with the current one. 1.138 SOP (sheets of plywood) in size- I did the math- including veg, flower, and cloning. I love having herb. Same as I love having a pantry full of jelly and a freezer full of smoked salmon and scallops.
My motivations revolve around personal happiness and freedom. I have a bit of a phobia about government control. I don't like bending over and filling out forms to send to Ontario, or submitting to 'inspections'. It makes my ass hurt, and my back hurt.
You have your medical licence Snarly? How much are you allowed to grow? What did you have to go through to get the proper paperwork? Or are you just saying f the system so far, same as me. It sounds like you've had a way better experience than I've been seeing.
Around here it's not happening. I'm in an isolated spot and there is not one doctor who is not anti-cannabis. I've tried them all in the last six months and they have not given out a prescription to anyone here to date. My doctor said he personally dislikes prescribing 'new and radical' painkillers but he'd absolutely love to give me more opioids and some antidepressants. I've checked out the other local doctors and they're the same.
That may change in the future when their asses are better covered by legislation. I do know a guy who got a prescription by travelling elsewhere and getting it. He's allowed a gram a day- still not legal to grow but he's trying.
It's not a common event in our local culture to be 'inspected' by government. Nobody here that I know is going to open their homes and grows to inspectors if they can help it. So that's just a personal choice. But a very important one.
You do make it sound way more rosy than anything I've heard so far- so maybe my natural distrust has gotten the better of me. It's totally possible.
Maybe you had a way easier time getting a licence and getting a reasonable grow allowance. The highest I've heard from people I've talked to was two grams a day. That would be ok I guess- but really- I'd rather it was just legal.
Legal to me is- legal.
I'm 'allowed' to grow as much tobacco as I like, brew as much wine as I like, and drink and smoke as many grams of wine or tobacco as I like each day. Also- lettuce, cucumbers, tomatoes, etc. Thanks government, for allowing me to do that? I don't think so. Nature allows me to do it, and as long as I'm not hurting anyone, I don't plan to forfeit my rights and my money to 'government' to do it.
As for the recreational allowance- they're planning to allow four plants per household. Same as they've been saying for over a year. Under one meter in height. No need to point out the obvious issues with that but yes- it's better than nothing.
Actually all four of my plants are not much more than a meter in height so maybe I shouldn't complain.
You may be right though- maybe I should be more optimistic about where this is heading, and least as a starting point. Thanks for pricking my interest.
It could be worse. I'm a little jaded, because so far all my experiences with the legislator/enforcer types around here have been a very negative experience, and it always seems to revolve around greed and money. We've been badly shafted here by the government for a couple hundred years and when we hear 'legal' - it usually is just a fancy way of saying 'illegal', so we tend to just make our own legal and wait for them to catch up.
Well, first off - your last comment. .... sounds insulting but anyway the answer to that is No.
I'm not a financially motivated person. Money is about the last thing on my list of motivations in life- or I'd still be working for that dickhead, who offered to double my pay, before I quit.
And no I don't have an interest in singlehandedly controlling the national or local price of cannabis. The lower the price the better. Better if it's free. As it is for my friends and whoever else I give it away to. And I give away most of it. I'll continue to make trades regardless of the price. Money is very rarely a trade for me. Our local people are very heavily trade oriented and since we still have a lot of resources here- there is a lot to trade. It's just the way our culture works.
I love growing. I'd still be having fun with a smaller garden- but I'm having a lot of fun with the current one. 1.138 SOP (sheets of plywood) in size- I did the math- including veg, flower, and cloning. I love having herb. Same as I love having a pantry full of jelly and a freezer full of smoked salmon and scallops.
My motivations revolve around personal happiness and freedom. I have a bit of a phobia about government control. I don't like bending over and filling out forms to send to Ontario, or submitting to 'inspections'. It makes my ass hurt, and my back hurt.
You have your medical licence Snarly? How much are you allowed to grow? What did you have to go through to get the proper paperwork? Or are you just saying f the system so far, same as me. It sounds like you've had a way better experience than I've been seeing.
Around here it's not happening. I'm in an isolated spot and there is not one doctor who is not anti-cannabis. I've tried them all in the last six months and they have not given out a prescription to anyone here to date. My doctor said he personally dislikes prescribing 'new and radical' painkillers but he'd absolutely love to give me more opioids and some antidepressants. I've checked out the other local doctors and they're the same.
That may change in the future when their asses are better covered by legislation. I do know a guy who got a prescription by travelling elsewhere and getting it. He's allowed a gram a day- still not legal to grow but he's trying.
It's not a common event in our local culture to be 'inspected' by government. Nobody here that I know is going to open their homes and grows to inspectors if they can help it. So that's just a personal choice. But a very important one.
You do make it sound way more rosy than anything I've heard so far- so maybe my natural distrust has gotten the better of me. It's totally possible.
Maybe you had a way easier time getting a licence and getting a reasonable grow allowance. The highest I've heard from people I've talked to was two grams a day. That would be ok I guess- but really- I'd rather it was just legal.
Legal to me is- legal.
I'm 'allowed' to grow as much tobacco as I like, brew as much wine as I like, and drink and smoke as many grams of wine or tobacco as I like each day. Also- lettuce, cucumbers, tomatoes, etc. Thanks government, for allowing me to do that? I don't think so. Nature allows me to do it, and as long as I'm not hurting anyone, I don't plan to forfeit my rights and my money to 'government' to do it.
As for the recreational allowance- they're planning to allow four plants per household. Same as they've been saying for over a year. Under one meter in height. No need to point out the obvious issues with that but yes- it's better than nothing.
Actually all four of my plants are not much more than a meter in height so maybe I shouldn't complain.
You may be right though- maybe I should be more optimistic about where this is heading, and least as a starting point. Thanks for pricking my interest.
It could be worse. I'm a little jaded, because so far all my experiences with the legislator/enforcer types around here have been a very negative experience, and it always seems to revolve around greed and money. We've been badly shafted here by the government for a couple hundred years and when we hear 'legal' - it usually is just a fancy way of saying 'illegal', so we tend to just make our own legal and wait for them to catch up.
Kriaze
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I'm not sure if I put my point across properly up there but I'm not against total legalisation as much as I am against medicinal legalisation for the simple fact that people in our country get paid if they are genuinely ill, which is fair enough but along with that there are plenty of people that try for that free money when they aren't genuinely ill and I think that would be a bad thing for the Cannabis culture over here, let me try and explain why.
First of all to gain free Cannabis medicine many recreational users will be trying to find a way to get into the system, that's no problem to me as I think everyone should be able to access this plant whichever way they can, but unfortunately it would not be so simple as that. First of all to qualify for a medicinal licence or prescription one would have to prove that they are ill, and that would mean more people applying for sickness monetary benefits before they can apply to be prescribed free Cannabis, which in turn would mean paying out more to those people which in turn adversely affects the economy as instead of the current amount of payouts we currently have, both genuine and non genuine claimants we would have another group of people applying just for the sake of gaining access to legal Cannabis.
In turn this hurts the taxpayer which in turn would force a stigma upon Cannabis users too, which is counter productive to the ideal of freeing the weed in my eyes as it would then become a political point when campaigning and I can almost guarantee that users would be vilified and medicinal users would be stamped out setting us much further back in the medicinal research department, and again hurt the cause of wiping the stigma that smokers currently suffer over here. Trust me, the populace over here are already brainwashed into thinking weed is bad, it would only get worse and true medicinal patients would suffer, as would those that like to partake for recreational purposes as I'm pretty sure that whichever government party promised to 'clean up the medicinal system' would include harsh crackdowns on anyone growing or supplying the plant, including those that had paid for licenses to grow. It would set us back decades in the way that this plant would be looked at.
Now if we were to go with full legality for recreational users too that would be a completely different ball game, users wouldn't feel the need to 'find an illness' which gave them access to the drug, and all in all it would be a much better state of affairs as there would be no negative economic impact to the taxpayer and in turn much less of a reason for any future government to clamp down on the 'drug', damn I hate that word but it is what it is. In fact there could be great positive impact on the economy as we saw with Colorado and how much they raised in taxes when they went fully legal. This is why I stated above that it should be all or nothing, it does make me wonder who had to pay all those taxes in Colorado but if it's working and the people are happy then there's no need to knock it.
Rather than going only partially legal and arming any potential anti Cannabis government of the future with a reason to clamp down and change the law I believe it should be one or the other, all or none. Personally I think that if we're allowed to grow Hemlock, Belladonna, Foxglove etc (all poisonous plants) in the UK I see no reason whatsoever as to why we shouldn't be able to grow this particular plant legally too. On the other hand with decriminalisation what the Police tend to do is overlook the fact that people are growing or smoking Cannabis, now that I can live with much easier. No need to put yourself forward and pay money for a card allowing you to buy it, just good old DIY gardening for those that care enough about where their Cannabis has come from and enough to go around for those that don't care for gardening, that would seem like an ideal form of classification to myself. I may be wrong, and I may not have explained it properly as I haven't had a joint yet so my brain is racing off on all tangents but hopefully I will have at least given you an insight into the way I see things panning out over this side of the pond.
One particular vision I don't want to see is if weed became legalised like the alcohol industry, run by big breweries/cooperatives churning out cheap chemicalised shit with the government forever increasing taxes on the product. We're allowed to brew beer at home but the majority of what we can actually buy has already been earmarked for the above said corporations so we're left with overpriced dregs of low quality product to brew our beer with, and let's not start on the kits, they really are the pits, expensive to buy with no quality at all, like drinking warm witch pish.
I might be biased. I had a bad turn with my security fear aa few months back and hence the name change for awhile, until I thought fkit I'm doing my best and there's no point in worrying about everything, but for me decriminalisation is the only way to keep Cannabis in the hands of the lowly common people like me without taxation and being priced out of even growing it. Sorry for the ramble, time to take my meds soon I guess
I just posted and read that you had posted too Weasel, I'll categorically state that this post is not meant to be insulting to anyone in any way. It's the musings of a sober man and I'm probably overthinking everything, but I feel we need to if we ever want to progress the freedom to grow. All the best.
First of all to gain free Cannabis medicine many recreational users will be trying to find a way to get into the system, that's no problem to me as I think everyone should be able to access this plant whichever way they can, but unfortunately it would not be so simple as that. First of all to qualify for a medicinal licence or prescription one would have to prove that they are ill, and that would mean more people applying for sickness monetary benefits before they can apply to be prescribed free Cannabis, which in turn would mean paying out more to those people which in turn adversely affects the economy as instead of the current amount of payouts we currently have, both genuine and non genuine claimants we would have another group of people applying just for the sake of gaining access to legal Cannabis.
In turn this hurts the taxpayer which in turn would force a stigma upon Cannabis users too, which is counter productive to the ideal of freeing the weed in my eyes as it would then become a political point when campaigning and I can almost guarantee that users would be vilified and medicinal users would be stamped out setting us much further back in the medicinal research department, and again hurt the cause of wiping the stigma that smokers currently suffer over here. Trust me, the populace over here are already brainwashed into thinking weed is bad, it would only get worse and true medicinal patients would suffer, as would those that like to partake for recreational purposes as I'm pretty sure that whichever government party promised to 'clean up the medicinal system' would include harsh crackdowns on anyone growing or supplying the plant, including those that had paid for licenses to grow. It would set us back decades in the way that this plant would be looked at.
Now if we were to go with full legality for recreational users too that would be a completely different ball game, users wouldn't feel the need to 'find an illness' which gave them access to the drug, and all in all it would be a much better state of affairs as there would be no negative economic impact to the taxpayer and in turn much less of a reason for any future government to clamp down on the 'drug', damn I hate that word but it is what it is. In fact there could be great positive impact on the economy as we saw with Colorado and how much they raised in taxes when they went fully legal. This is why I stated above that it should be all or nothing, it does make me wonder who had to pay all those taxes in Colorado but if it's working and the people are happy then there's no need to knock it.
Rather than going only partially legal and arming any potential anti Cannabis government of the future with a reason to clamp down and change the law I believe it should be one or the other, all or none. Personally I think that if we're allowed to grow Hemlock, Belladonna, Foxglove etc (all poisonous plants) in the UK I see no reason whatsoever as to why we shouldn't be able to grow this particular plant legally too. On the other hand with decriminalisation what the Police tend to do is overlook the fact that people are growing or smoking Cannabis, now that I can live with much easier. No need to put yourself forward and pay money for a card allowing you to buy it, just good old DIY gardening for those that care enough about where their Cannabis has come from and enough to go around for those that don't care for gardening, that would seem like an ideal form of classification to myself. I may be wrong, and I may not have explained it properly as I haven't had a joint yet so my brain is racing off on all tangents but hopefully I will have at least given you an insight into the way I see things panning out over this side of the pond.
One particular vision I don't want to see is if weed became legalised like the alcohol industry, run by big breweries/cooperatives churning out cheap chemicalised shit with the government forever increasing taxes on the product. We're allowed to brew beer at home but the majority of what we can actually buy has already been earmarked for the above said corporations so we're left with overpriced dregs of low quality product to brew our beer with, and let's not start on the kits, they really are the pits, expensive to buy with no quality at all, like drinking warm witch pish.
I might be biased. I had a bad turn with my security fear aa few months back and hence the name change for awhile, until I thought fkit I'm doing my best and there's no point in worrying about everything, but for me decriminalisation is the only way to keep Cannabis in the hands of the lowly common people like me without taxation and being priced out of even growing it. Sorry for the ramble, time to take my meds soon I guess
I just posted and read that you had posted too Weasel, I'll categorically state that this post is not meant to be insulting to anyone in any way. It's the musings of a sober man and I'm probably overthinking everything, but I feel we need to if we ever want to progress the freedom to grow. All the best.
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Are things easing up on your side of the pond at all, Kriaze? In terms of general public perception, atmosphere on the street, paranoia levels. It seems sort of weird that GB is so restrictive about it.
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Oh yeah- in my stoned stupor last night I forget to ask something else- about ducting.
I've had that metal ducting for a few years and it's noisy as hell- kind of makes an echo chamber for the fan plus transmits any vibrations to the wall. So as an experiment I replaced a couple feet of the ducting with a jerry-rigged flexible bit- which you can see in a couple of the photos. Seems a bit quieter. But the new fan just isn't as quiet as I was hoping.
I also have a homemade sound and light baffle box I made on the outside of the wall. Helps a lot.
I noticed though, online, that you can buy duct mufflers, which claim to reduce sound by up to 75%.
Anyone here used one or know anyone who has, and how well it works? I may replace my home-made box with them if they work better.
I've had that metal ducting for a few years and it's noisy as hell- kind of makes an echo chamber for the fan plus transmits any vibrations to the wall. So as an experiment I replaced a couple feet of the ducting with a jerry-rigged flexible bit- which you can see in a couple of the photos. Seems a bit quieter. But the new fan just isn't as quiet as I was hoping.
I also have a homemade sound and light baffle box I made on the outside of the wall. Helps a lot.
I noticed though, online, that you can buy duct mufflers, which claim to reduce sound by up to 75%.
Anyone here used one or know anyone who has, and how well it works? I may replace my home-made box with them if they work better.
Kriaze
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It happened for awhile Weasel but due to the media being so negative about it there was a knee jerk reaction and the plug was pulled. In one county the Police Inspector stated that grows were not on the list of priority crimes, the information received a huge backlash from the majority of the public again and he was forced to retract his statement days later. It is slowly getting better, just by the simple fact that we are seeing things happen such as the attempted decriminalisation and the statement from the Police, unfortunately there is still a lot of social stigma around and we're far away from seeing full legalisation or decriminalisation. We're currently researching its medicinal value though, but then we go into the territories of medicinal legalisation which I'm not keen on due to the points I mentioned above. Once the children are finished at University and settled there could be new horizons for me and the wife though, it's something that we discuss now and again. The wife doesn't smoke it at all and neither do her associates but she does understand that it's not harmful and she actively encourages me with my hobby as she knows the effect that it has on me, although as you know she wasn't too keen on the effects from the Dark Devil Auto. It seems that some strains wake me up even more than sobriety does and although I like that feeling it doesn't do what I prefer which is to let me sleep.
I've currently got a trapped nerve in my back and my left arm is weak from it, not quite useless but painful and very uncomfortable and the weed I smoke doesn't seem to touch it. I'm interested in the CBD plants for that reason too and am wondering if these plants would do the trick for me. I'm also wondering whether I would be better to try it as an oil rather than smoking, but I'm not in enough pain to try it anally so we'll skip that for now eh? If it is going to work as an oil I wonder whether Isopropyl Alcohol is the way to go as we don't have access to high percentage food grade alcohol such as Everclear over here. So many questions and never enough time
I've currently got a trapped nerve in my back and my left arm is weak from it, not quite useless but painful and very uncomfortable and the weed I smoke doesn't seem to touch it. I'm interested in the CBD plants for that reason too and am wondering if these plants would do the trick for me. I'm also wondering whether I would be better to try it as an oil rather than smoking, but I'm not in enough pain to try it anally so we'll skip that for now eh? If it is going to work as an oil I wonder whether Isopropyl Alcohol is the way to go as we don't have access to high percentage food grade alcohol such as Everclear over here. So many questions and never enough time
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Hopefully things will continue to change for the better, and quickly.
I'm at about the same point as you are with the CBD question. If you learn anything let me know, and I'll be sure to post here if I make any progress. I'll read through a bunch of Sue's threads. Sometimes too much info is hard to sort through, as you know.
As far as I know - oil can be made with coconut oil. Also some other oils.
ISO is a bit icky but it does seem to mostly evaporate if you do it right. I don't have access to everclear either. I do have that MB machine which I think I could use to make oil with, using coconut oil. I'll definitely be trying that soon.
I'm at about the same point as you are with the CBD question. If you learn anything let me know, and I'll be sure to post here if I make any progress. I'll read through a bunch of Sue's threads. Sometimes too much info is hard to sort through, as you know.
As far as I know - oil can be made with coconut oil. Also some other oils.
ISO is a bit icky but it does seem to mostly evaporate if you do it right. I don't have access to everclear either. I do have that MB machine which I think I could use to make oil with, using coconut oil. I'll definitely be trying that soon.
Kriaze
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I'd love to get hold of one of those Magical Butter machines but they have stopped doing the European version and apparently it would cost me as much as the machine itself to get a transformer that would make it work here. Damn shame as I've had my eye on them since they were brought to my attention on the magazine. Maybe a competitor would bring out the EU version, possibly one of the Chinese companies so I can get it cheap too, although it may cost me in fire extinguishers for the first couple of releases
SnarlyWeed
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Sorry if it came off that way, it was not meant to be personal or derogatory, more of just a catchall comment in generalWent back to bed to add another hour to my weekly ration of sleep.
.... sounds insulting but anyway the answer to that is No.
Not only fun, therapeutic as well
I am not a fan of gov't control either, but consider it somewhat of a necessary evil. Same with forms, necessary evil, but then again, for filling out a couple forms once a year, I gain a lot of personal benefit.
I have had my prescription for almost 2 years now. 3 gms a day. That works out to over 3 oz a month for personal consumption. It's supposed to be my medication for me. I don;t mind sharing my meds, but I do understand the concept of personal, if you had a prescription for say, heart meds, you wouldn't be sharing with friends.
To get my personal grow, I just had to fill out a form, take it to my prescribing doctor to sign. and two weeks later received my permit in the mail. 15 plants indoors, or 6 plants outdoors. No height restrictions. Only real restriction beyond plants was the amount you are allowed to store of processed product. In my case around 2 lb.
My family doctor referred me to a local clinic. No charge for anything, covered by ohip.
Although the gov't has the option to inspect personal home grows, I find it unlikely that the majority will be inspected, more likely the "suspect" grows. By that I mean a grow where the grower might already be under some form of surveillance. People that home brew or make wine are also subject to inspection, but when was the last time you heard of that happening?
I'm not trying to make it sound rosy, I would much rather it be like growing tomatos or lettuce or roses. But I really think it should be somewhat regulated, much like beer.
Legal to me is- legal.
I'm 'allowed' to grow as much tobacco as I like, brew as much wine as I like, and drink and smoke as many grams of wine or tobacco as I like each day. Also- lettuce, cucumbers, tomatoes, etc. Thanks government, for allowing me to do that? I don't think so. Nature allows me to do it, and as long as I'm not hurting anyone, I don't plan to forfeit my rights and my money to 'government' to do it.
As for the recreational allowance- they're planning to allow four plants per household. Same as they've been saying for over a year. Under one meter in height. No need to point out the obvious issues with that but yes- it's better than nothing.
Actually all four of my plants are not much more than a meter in height so maybe I shouldn't complain.
You may be right though- maybe I should be more optimistic about where this is heading, and least as a starting point. Thanks for pricking my interest.
It could be worse. I'm a little jaded, because so far all my experiences with the legislator/enforcer types around here have been a very negative experience, and it always seems to revolve around greed and money. We've been badly shafted here by the government for a couple hundred years and when we hear 'legal' - it usually is just a fancy way of saying 'illegal', so we tend to just make our own legal and wait for them to catch up.
Other than a few minor items, I think we are close to being on the same page here.
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That's weird. But I'll take your word for it that it's not a matter of just using a simple adapter. However- all the MB does (besides grind it up) is heat to a specified temp for a set time. So if you have a reliable thermometer and a decent stovetop you can easily do it in a pot. Bapple does it inside canning jars in a water bath- no smell and probably more stable temps. There may be slow cookers or canners that do the same thing and you could pre-grind the weed and put it in jars inside the thing, possibly in a water bath. Otherwise any simple stovetop method should work the same- just need some more attention.
Mufflers work..
Man, i don't get why anybody would think it should be regulated.. damn.. don't regulate the tomatoes or chilli I grow in my back garden, why cannabis? What's the association with beer, who cares how the alcohol industry is regulated? I don't get the association...
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Thanks. That does sound easier than any of the experiences I've heard so far. Doesn't look to be that easy around here but maybe that will change next year.
The government can inspect my wine brewing setup? Weird. I've never heard of that, I'll have to google it. How would they know I'm making wine? I wonder what they'd inspect? And how much of it they'd have to inspect before I carried them to bed?
The government can inspect my wine brewing setup? Weird. I've never heard of that, I'll have to google it. How would they know I'm making wine? I wonder what they'd inspect? And how much of it they'd have to inspect before I carried them to bed?
SnarlyWeed
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It happened for awhile Weasel but due to the media being so negative about it there was a knee jerk reaction and the plug was pulled. In one county the Police Inspector stated that grows were not on the list of priority crimes, the information received a huge backlash from the majority of the public again and he was forced to retract his statement days later. It is slowly getting better, just by the simple fact that we are seeing things happen such as the attempted decriminalisation and the statement from the Police, unfortunately there is still a lot of social stigma around and we're far away from seeing full legalisation or decriminalisation. We're currently researching its medicinal value though, but then we go into the territories of medicinal legalisation which I'm not keen on due to the points I mentioned above. Once the children are finished at University and settled there could be new horizons for me and the wife though, it's something that we discuss now and again. The wife doesn't smoke it at all and neither do her associates but she does understand that it's not harmful and she actively encourages me with my hobby as she knows the effect that it has on me, although as you know she wasn't too keen on the effects from the Dark Devil Auto. It seems that some strains wake me up even more than sobriety does and although I like that feeling it doesn't do what I prefer which is to let me sleep.
I've currently got a trapped nerve in my back and my left arm is weak from it, not quite useless but painful and very uncomfortable and the weed I smoke doesn't seem to touch it. I'm interested in the CBD plants for that reason too and am wondering if these plants would do the trick for me. I'm also wondering whether I would be better to try it as an oil rather than smoking, but I'm not in enough pain to try it anally so we'll skip that for now eh? If it is going to work as an oil I wonder whether Isopropyl Alcohol is the way to go as we don't have access to high percentage food grade alcohol such as Everclear over here. So many questions and never enough time
Try applying the oil topically. I have bad joints, and if I rub some oil onto the joint, it starts to soothe much the same as some of the joint ointments you pick up at the drug store.
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Yeah grizz I basically don't agree with the regulation at all when it comes down to it. And I could sum up everything by just saying that and skip all the words.
And I hesitated to include that thing about wine and tobacco because in reality I'd ignore them even if they tried to limit how much wine or tobacco I could produce. So it's sort of pointless pointing that comparison out. But it's true- I can grow as much tobacco and make as much wine and beer as I want. Which is exactly what I do by the way. Or I can buy it if I want too. Seems a good enough system to me. I make my wine from local fruits and berries- also wine grapes when I can get them.
And I hesitated to include that thing about wine and tobacco because in reality I'd ignore them even if they tried to limit how much wine or tobacco I could produce. So it's sort of pointless pointing that comparison out. But it's true- I can grow as much tobacco and make as much wine and beer as I want. Which is exactly what I do by the way. Or I can buy it if I want too. Seems a good enough system to me. I make my wine from local fruits and berries- also wine grapes when I can get them.
Guys, you know if the information overload gets to be intimidating you can always PM me and I'll do everything I can to help you sift through it to what you need. I do this all the time for members. You can also stop at the study hall and ask anything and someone will answer ASAP.
Coconut oil for recreational and liver cancer, olive oil for just about anything else. Making an infused oil is so easy it's crazy and a potent infused oil may be as effective therapeutically as a CCO concoction, with much less money and time invested.
Seriously guys, come find me and ask.
Kraize, I don't know what you're smoking but if you can, try to get close to a balanced ratio THC:CBD. Then add in more of both THC and CBD, as close to that balance as possible until you get the pain relief you seek. This has been the most effective method I've found to control chronic pain.
I have a hard time standing quietly by when I know someone is in pain.
Coconut oil for recreational and liver cancer, olive oil for just about anything else. Making an infused oil is so easy it's crazy and a potent infused oil may be as effective therapeutically as a CCO concoction, with much less money and time invested.
Seriously guys, come find me and ask.
Kraize, I don't know what you're smoking but if you can, try to get close to a balanced ratio THC:CBD. Then add in more of both THC and CBD, as close to that balance as possible until you get the pain relief you seek. This has been the most effective method I've found to control chronic pain.
I have a hard time standing quietly by when I know someone is in pain.
Kriaze
Well-Known Member
Thanks SweetSue that's some good information I can use. I've made ISO oil before and I'm guessing it's the same kind of thing, and do you have a write up in one of your threads that I could check out? After 4 weeks of this I'm ready to try almost anything, I prefer the weed to the high strength Co-Codamol my doctor has prescribed me, plus it's dangerous to drink when taking those pills too. Thanks for your reply, appreciated 
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Thanks SweetSue that's some good information I can use. I've made ISO oil before and I'm guessing it's the same kind of thing, and do you have a write up in one of your threads that I could check out? After 4 weeks of this I'm ready to try almost anything, I prefer the weed to the high strength Co-Codamol my doctor has prescribed me, plus it's dangerous to drink when taking those pills too. Thanks for your reply, appreciated
They're very similar processes. I'll take some time this afternoon and chase down the appropriate links. Glad to help Kraize. If you make CCO you can process it into BioBombs and increase the bioavailability by more than twice what you get without. With capsules you may be able to get the pain under control. Inhalation only carries you for an hour or two. BioBombs have been known to carry for hours and hours. My 5:1 that I took at 9 this morning is still hitting me 8.5 hours later. I'm trying to hold off on supplementation until this wears off, but it keeps sneaking more body rushes in.
Not that I'm complaining, mind you.
