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Took a little to catch up but your killin it as usual. Your set up is coming along nicely and congrats on the addition to the family!
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Hey @DonChiefums20 good morning my friend.Took a little to catch up but your killin it as usual. Your set up is coming along nicely and congrats on the addition to the family!
Thanks BuddyGrow dem babies Bill!
I knowLooking fantastic Bill, your new grow room is beginning to look like one big plant!
In the city, in wealthier countries, there are water reports available that are quite detailed and helpful. Common today is a kind of chlorine treatment that is 90% contained within the water treatment plant, and passes out with a very small, transformed remnant chlorine type called, "chloramine" that cannot be offgassed in reasonable amount of time but does need to be removed for LOS grows and microbe health generally. It's an excellent technological advance for water treatment overall, so don't be too irked over it, it's good tech that in the end means much less chlorine exposure yet less chance of pathogen sneaking through.I am a bit wary about the chlorine in tap water too. I generally always keep my tap water overnight in a bucket and watering can, so that way hopefully any chlorine present can off-gas before I use the water.
Thanks for that RD, that's very interesting!In the city, in wealthier countries, there are water reports available that are quite detailed and helpful. Common today is a kind of chlorine treatment that is 90% contained within the water treatment plant, and passes out with a very small, transformed remnant chlorine type called, "chloramine" that cannot be offgassed in reasonable amount of time but does need to be removed for LOS grows and microbe health generally. It's an excellent technological advance for water treatment overall, so don't be too irked over it, it's good tech that in the end means much less chlorine exposure yet less chance of pathogen sneaking through.
There is a very easy way for those without charcoal filters to address chloramines and transform/purge them 100% giving you microbe-safe water in seconds. I have a rudimentary mycology lab at home and have been able to test microbe survival (trichs, bacillus, strep and others) with this treated water on agar plates. My results were comparable to distilled water.
The method is passed on to us from the Whine and Jeermaking...sorry, I mean, wine and beermaking crowd. Sodium metabisulphate or potassium metabisulphate (slightly prefer the latter for no sodium) can be added in an amount (by weight) thought to be equal to that of the chloramines present. This is why checking the report is very handy because you will get an exact chloramine ppm that you can use to calculate the amount needed. Nonetheless, there will only be so much of the chloramines present so an estimation still works effectively for same end result.
My recommendation if you are not referencing a local test result for chloramines (you'll still need a milligram scale) is to add 0.1 grams of potassium metabisulphate or 0.2 grams sodium metabisulphate (the sodium is less efficient attaching to chloramines and is, well, sodium) for every 5 US gallons of tap water if you are a city-dweller in Europe, N. America, China, Japan, S. Korea, Oceania, S. Africa and have confirmed that "chloramine remnants" are part of your civic h20 system.
You can buy something called Campden Tablets, but I prefer granulated so I can use the correct amount without grinding up pills. Wine stores will all carry and its avail on The Nile. The process will generate very small amounts of hydrochloric acid and sulphates - like 1ppm, thus pH will fall slightly. The process takes 5 minutes or less when initially stirred for 10 sec.. If you get a major pH swing repeat process with new water, something was done improperly. My very soft tap water runs at 7.0 pH, so the drop to 6.7-6.9 is welcome.
It is preferable to invest in an RO system if other conditions present you with multiple challenges. But if you have otherwise excellent tap water, then transforming chloramines this way is dead-easy, fast and effective.
Chloramines are virtually always found at a relatively low PPM, as they occur as a treatment by-product resulting from added ammonia that's quickly off-gassed at the plant. Nonetheless, it is because they are so persistent that the impact over time can be quite large. For wine and beer it affects flavour, but for us the consideration is microbe populations. As a container gardener, these microbes are particularly hard-won resources that require a lot of attention and upkeep, and this process will help a great deal if chloramines are indeed present. Incidentally, human gut health will also be improved by either charcoal filtering or treating drinking water with chloramines in this way. You should be able to find out online, in short order, whether your water is treated in this manner.Thanks for that RD, that's very interesting!
I don't actually know off hand what the details of my tap water are. And I don't what it means if my water contains chloramines that cannot be off-gassed. Would that mean my water is perhaps low if any is present, or that over my grows I have been unwittingly impacting the quality of my soil biology?
The only required watching for me was SNL but always had to spark up first. CLMorning Dude!
Ha - 1985? Probably about when I started watching it. 7 years old or something. Every Saturday me and my brother had plaid shirts like The Dukes of Hazard and we were allowed to have dinner in front of the TV once a week. Sausage, beans and chips, typically. Viewing was the A-Team, TJ Hooker, McGyver - the Fall Guy! Airwolf and that one with the motorbike, Nighthawk? Knight Rider obviously. Happy days!
You’re in that sweet easy veg spot at the moment? Loving some nice deep green growth it looks like!
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uhm... I meant an unhealthy bacteria bomb, not, like, an actual bomb.Chloramines are virtually always found at a relatively low PPM, as they occur as a treatment by-product resulting from added ammonia that's quickly off-gassed at the plant. Nonetheless, it is because they are so persistent that the impact over time can be quite large. For wine and beer it affects flavour, but for us the consideration is microbe populations. As a container gardener, these microbes are particularly hard-won resources that require a lot of attention and upkeep, and this process will help a great deal if chloramines are indeed present. Incidentally, human gut health will also be improved by either charcoal filtering or treating drinking water with chloramines in this way. You should be able to find out online, in short order, whether your water is treated in this manner.
I don't treat the water I use for my garden or trees outside because microbe populations are virtually unlimited outdoors, and I do apply teas a few times through season, so impact is negligible, but in our containers is a totally different scenario where constantly falling populations need be constantly fed and/or boosted. I actually do a 7-10 days microbe "drench", being careful to use less than 1-litre water poured slowly to avoid leaching or washing organic muck into my SIP reservoirs where the warm indoor temps can, rarely but impactfully, set off a bomb.
Exactly where he is now.oh my goodness Charlie is beautiful! Another little Labradoodle? Good thing you got a different colour! Those two are going to have the best life... I really wish I was a cute little Labradoodle adopted to spend my days watching you haul in speckies and sleeping on that heated floor!
We are doing well, looking forward to seeing out my windows again .What's shakin' Bill? I hope yer missus is well. You doin' all right these days?
I haven't had time to do anything to the VIVOHUT.llen a few. I've set to work reading the pages here I've missed ... Right now I'm battling a little bit of envy over your new equip and wonderful k9 companions... and more. Best to you and yours, mate, speak soon.
Oh wow amigo, you have the whole Forrest up and in there, all you're missing is some pandas
PLAGRON nutrients are fantastic in Coco!
Quick and easy to mix and feed every day.
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Thanks my friend.Oh wow amigo, you have the whole Forrest up and in there, all you're missing is some pandas
Thanks my friend.
It's not designed to have all 15 in there.
But it's working.
Hope your having a nice weekend.
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Happy for you Darade. You deserve it.
I just love it here
And now a bunch of thunderstorms and cool anomalies (I love weather, not tornados tho lmfao)