Greenethumb42
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That's what I was thinking she isn't far from being done..and that plant looks amazing..what kind was she
VI's - Subcool Based - 2 Worm - Multi-Strain - Mother Hunt - 2016
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That was a freebie. It is I think Rasberry cough and was the mother of most of the plants in this grow. It is the mother of the plant in the ground out back that is on its second bloom.
So depending on conditions the same plant came out like this on the third gen (also like yours got way too hot) ...
And this was the second gen that was cloned for the ones above. This might be the one out back in the ground now...this or the one just like it.
And the key my friend is recycling the soil. I had a bin I would dump used soil from males or harvested females into and other stuff. Kept my compost going. Those last few plants were in compost that had been cooking for 6 months.
If you keep recycling you get real top notch stuff. 3 grows and you got yourself some real nice black gold. I was more depressed about throwing out the soil then shutting down the grow. I can start a grow anytime. That soil is worth gold to me. I rooted around in fucking steer and worm shit for months to make that and boy it was top notch.
So depending on conditions the same plant came out like this on the third gen (also like yours got way too hot) ...
And this was the second gen that was cloned for the ones above. This might be the one out back in the ground now...this or the one just like it.
And the key my friend is recycling the soil. I had a bin I would dump used soil from males or harvested females into and other stuff. Kept my compost going. Those last few plants were in compost that had been cooking for 6 months.
If you keep recycling you get real top notch stuff. 3 grows and you got yourself some real nice black gold. I was more depressed about throwing out the soil then shutting down the grow. I can start a grow anytime. That soil is worth gold to me. I rooted around in fucking steer and worm shit for months to make that and boy it was top notch.
Greenethumb42
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Man you can grow some pretty plants
AKgramma
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AWESOME! 
Mars Hydro
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wow,sugars...
congrates!
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All that was grown in this journal.
There were 2 real bad heat incidents that got well into the 90's, maybe into the low 100's for a bit and they almost died. Had a few other problems here and there but the heat outright killed one plant. The rest had permanent heat damage.
Normally wouldn't have been an issue but we had 2 heat waves in spring up almost into the low 100's and I grow out in the garage. The fall early winter grow was the really purple one. The least purple one was grown and bloomed right next to the pant it was cloned from. The only real difference is I did not give it much tea as the soil was good to go.
So the bigger plants I was giving tea to every 2 weeks (its all in the journal) but the 1 week clones I gave way less too. They were in 3 gallon pots that were more like half compost and half fresh soil and that was more than enough. Just untreated tap water for those ones for the most part and you get those results.
1 week veg, no new growth right into bloom. Stretch about 3X
(this being the one zoomed in above )
Just sayins zall.... I wrote this journal up to help show that you don't need to buy into the hype. That stuff doesn't hurt when used correctly but really...you don't need any of it. Compost piles are easy to make. Subcools recipe works.
There were 2 real bad heat incidents that got well into the 90's, maybe into the low 100's for a bit and they almost died. Had a few other problems here and there but the heat outright killed one plant. The rest had permanent heat damage.
Normally wouldn't have been an issue but we had 2 heat waves in spring up almost into the low 100's and I grow out in the garage. The fall early winter grow was the really purple one. The least purple one was grown and bloomed right next to the pant it was cloned from. The only real difference is I did not give it much tea as the soil was good to go.
So the bigger plants I was giving tea to every 2 weeks (its all in the journal) but the 1 week clones I gave way less too. They were in 3 gallon pots that were more like half compost and half fresh soil and that was more than enough. Just untreated tap water for those ones for the most part and you get those results.
1 week veg, no new growth right into bloom. Stretch about 3X
(this being the one zoomed in above )
Just sayins zall.... I wrote this journal up to help show that you don't need to buy into the hype. That stuff doesn't hurt when used correctly but really...you don't need any of it. Compost piles are easy to make. Subcools recipe works.
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I agree with you.
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So anyway...
the regrow is coming along nicely
And the hedge I did some underbrush cleaning and you can see the stalks now.
But still not very far into bloom.
Being above the 45th parallel means I probably can't just grow anything outside. I have seen plants outside in cali way farther along by august. This girl is gonna freeze in December before she finishes. This is why you ditch duds.
the regrow is coming along nicely
And the hedge I did some underbrush cleaning and you can see the stalks now.
But still not very far into bloom.
Being above the 45th parallel means I probably can't just grow anything outside. I have seen plants outside in cali way farther along by august. This girl is gonna freeze in December before she finishes. This is why you ditch duds.
Greenethumb42
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I took your advice and started to flush my plant..how low should the ppm's be when I harvested...right now my ppm's are 300 and my tap water is 200..should I take it all the way to 0 and buy different water,or just use the tap water and get it as low as I can..I would think the lower you get the ppm's the better the taste...I could be wrong..
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Wow 200????
Yeah you really want nothing left at the very end and it is living off the stored food. That is why the leaves curl up and shrivel at the end.
It really depends on the strength of your soil.
I have run Hydro or even dead soil that ran on fertilizers and that is easy to flush. A few days or maybe a weekish in the soil.
With a great compost it really wont be easy to do. But start over watering by about 3 weeks before the end I would say.
I say that becasue I play it by ear. Normally I water once a weekish. In a good soil I may add tea every 2 weeks, in a great soil I may add nothing. So over water as in get a ton of run off until the water is clear each time and I start watering every 3-4 days near the end.
With those small clones I really only ran water after I got them started so what does it even mean to flush right?
So it kinda depends. But you wont really get a great flush with a great compost.
That is the rub.
You can spend money and put in a lot of time and effort and run a premo hydro setup that allows for optimized control including a fabulous flush (honestly probably the best benefit IMO). That takes a lot more effort , time and money...but the final product does taste a bit better. I don't want to argue...I have grown both I know all about both. I like growing hydro too. Doing soil this way is about the easiest way to grow weed by far. There is some up front labor but as you saw once I got to the state of perpetual cloning at about 6 months I could have maintained a water only once a week regimen on those mini clones. untreated once a week water is about as easy as it gets.
Properly cured, good soil grows wont make you cough. The curing is the most important part. It makes up for a lot and a poor cure kills a lot of great weed.
I will do hydro again. It is fun.
Yeah you really want nothing left at the very end and it is living off the stored food. That is why the leaves curl up and shrivel at the end.
It really depends on the strength of your soil.
I have run Hydro or even dead soil that ran on fertilizers and that is easy to flush. A few days or maybe a weekish in the soil.
With a great compost it really wont be easy to do. But start over watering by about 3 weeks before the end I would say.
I say that becasue I play it by ear. Normally I water once a weekish. In a good soil I may add tea every 2 weeks, in a great soil I may add nothing. So over water as in get a ton of run off until the water is clear each time and I start watering every 3-4 days near the end.
With those small clones I really only ran water after I got them started so what does it even mean to flush right?
So it kinda depends. But you wont really get a great flush with a great compost.
That is the rub.
You can spend money and put in a lot of time and effort and run a premo hydro setup that allows for optimized control including a fabulous flush (honestly probably the best benefit IMO). That takes a lot more effort , time and money...but the final product does taste a bit better. I don't want to argue...I have grown both I know all about both. I like growing hydro too. Doing soil this way is about the easiest way to grow weed by far. There is some up front labor but as you saw once I got to the state of perpetual cloning at about 6 months I could have maintained a water only once a week regimen on those mini clones. untreated once a week water is about as easy as it gets.
Properly cured, good soil grows wont make you cough. The curing is the most important part. It makes up for a lot and a poor cure kills a lot of great weed.
I will do hydro again. It is fun.
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Ah but..you also can start upping the sugars near the ends for a few reasons. One of them is the photosynthesis is dying off. And the ferts are gone from flush. But if you provide straight sugars, which is the results of photosynthesis, the plant can "finish off" better using up every last it can even though it isn't making sugar anymore.
That wont hurt flavor given a good cure. I have even read of people flushing the last day with fruit juice. I can't be bothered with that nonsense but people loves it.
That wont hurt flavor given a good cure. I have even read of people flushing the last day with fruit juice. I can't be bothered with that nonsense but people loves it.
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salchipapa27
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VI, long time no talk! I am curious. As I remember you said this strain was possibly nirvana's raspberry cough, I am getting this strain and planned to use a scrog method with it. My dimensions of my tent are about 2.7x2.7 and a little over 6 ft tall. Can I get some of your advice please?
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AKgramma
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Just heard that you are still alive. I'm posting, so I get some confirmations from your journal!
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HAHAHAHA
Yeah I am totally here just been super busy. My amazing ridiculous plan of moving far up onto Mount Hood is coming together. It has been a lot of work... a lot.
I have just yesterday accepted an offer on my house so in a month I will be homeless and living in a van down by the river!
Not really but seriously I will be without internet really and living out of my motor home living on the property through the summer during the build. It will be crazy 6 months ahead. But I am now on an amazing river that is famous for Kayaking and I am out of any zoning, beyond humanity. Beyond the snow plow line! All by myself.
I was up there a few weeks back pushing snow off so my excavator could get out there and found all these big cougar tracks in the snow.
Wild times!!! Bald eagles nest near by. Totally wild out there.
Yeah I am totally here just been super busy. My amazing ridiculous plan of moving far up onto Mount Hood is coming together. It has been a lot of work... a lot.
I have just yesterday accepted an offer on my house so in a month I will be homeless and living in a van down by the river!
Not really but seriously I will be without internet really and living out of my motor home living on the property through the summer during the build. It will be crazy 6 months ahead. But I am now on an amazing river that is famous for Kayaking and I am out of any zoning, beyond humanity. Beyond the snow plow line! All by myself.
I was up there a few weeks back pushing snow off so my excavator could get out there and found all these big cougar tracks in the snow.
Wild times!!! Bald eagles nest near by. Totally wild out there.
CCOiler
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That's good living VI, congratulations for doing what a lot of us want.
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I recently finished most everything i need to do to get this constructions started. below I took that pick of the build area. I own about 2.6 acres. half of the river (which I should pan) to the road.
I pulled two big boulders with my tractor and put them on the property lines which you can see a the edge of the pics.
2 old growth stumps there I tried to burn but today I went up with a buddy and 2 chainsaws and we got through about 1/4 of whats left. The pile was well taller than me when I started. The fire was awesome.
There is a well and pump house you see there I bought the property with that but it needed a lot of work.
I put septic and drain field in at the back end where there is a big hill down to the river. Sewage runs to my Electrical Box and water access at the top of the property where I will set up full hook ups and camp.
All my utilities are in and inspected and permitted. 5 truck loads of gravel (many that was like $1250 alone) and I need 6 more.
All that and I had to get my stuff packed and into storage and sell my home and keep my job and my wife.
Some how so far everything is still on schedule.
I pulled two big boulders with my tractor and put them on the property lines which you can see a the edge of the pics.
2 old growth stumps there I tried to burn but today I went up with a buddy and 2 chainsaws and we got through about 1/4 of whats left. The pile was well taller than me when I started. The fire was awesome.
There is a well and pump house you see there I bought the property with that but it needed a lot of work.
I put septic and drain field in at the back end where there is a big hill down to the river. Sewage runs to my Electrical Box and water access at the top of the property where I will set up full hook ups and camp.
All my utilities are in and inspected and permitted. 5 truck loads of gravel (many that was like $1250 alone) and I need 6 more.
All that and I had to get my stuff packed and into storage and sell my home and keep my job and my wife.
Some how so far everything is still on schedule.