Re: Papa Green's Utopian Sub v2 - You, Me, and Barney's Farm makes 3 - Perpetual 2000
Hey Papa, I've got a couple questions about training my current grow and would be apprciate any thoughts you may have...
1. I'm 4 weeks in to veg and thought I'd start some LST. I'd have started earlier but the plants are staying very short and compact - internode spacing is only about half an inch - and this is the first opportunity I've seen where bending the plants over seems feasible. The thing I'm wondering is... which way should I bend them? I've tried a few different directions and none seem to be the obvious choice. Does it even matter?
2. I totally agree that pruning away some fan leaves is a good thing. I've watched more than a few growers do it with great results. My question is... how soon can I start the pruning? The secondary/side branches are coming along nicely and I'd like to get them more light, but I don't want to damage the plants in the process.
Thanks in advance for your thoughts!!
Good questions. When they're really tight like that I use some mental
guidelines to myself, but I woudn't say any strict rules.
I cut fan leaves when they come from the stem and the branch directly above them in the same node is fully formed with its own leaves. Big or small. Stretched or not. If I need to create space a fan leaf goes. generally I keep most - not all - but most is the perfect word - most fan leaves along the main stem gone as soon as their branch is about 1-2" long. This also lets me see whats going on in there.
Also, I try to leave them if they're not getting in the way. So I guess I would say I favor leaving the leaves, but its often necessary to cut more than half along the main stem. Value judgement for sure. And definitely I'd do more indoors than out.
When bending them - start slow. If you support one part, and bend the other a little, then let it up. Then bend it more and so on. Slowly. And I try to bend in a large arc first, gradually working the bend to a specific spot. At some point they seem to go with it.
Some strains are just a bitch to bend.
Also, Silica will make them harder to bend. If you're going to scrog, you might think about going light on the Silica. I usually don't even use it at all in scrog bound plants.
Hey Papa just checking in. That scrog is looking sweet. I found that it is cheaper to do it right the first time than to piece it together. It cost me a lot more to do it the way I did instead of just biting the bullet and jumping in. It is a learning experience and I'm have a ton of fun doing it. Thanks for the education my brother.
I think we've all been through that experience. I know I did. My first scrog was wood and chicken wire I had in the garage. Oh the extra hours I spent cutting little parts of wire away from the plants to make room to weave!
Excellent looking SCroG Papa!
Thanks! Here's hoping I can keep the plants healthy. From here out I think its a race! If the stems and roots can keep up with the buds then I think we'll have a winner!
haha yeah dude thats exactly what i was thinkin last september haha gotta say that it's not cheap uncomplicated or easy to grow some quality kind bud, but it sure is fulfilling and i don't think I will ever stop
great nute line up man i just got myself some of biothrives calmag+ and the silica blast great stuff worked wonders for my girls, good growin to ya papa
dude OMM i sometimes wish we never had dispensaries open up here i think growers collectives would've done the trick just fine and sometimes it seems like they just cause more problems with legalities then they do help me buy budz, but then again I don't have a clue were i would find earwax hash if i didn't have a dispensary and that stuff is somethin you want to get a hold of it'll make you look like this
and then like this haha
i just don't see why we need 300+ theres more dispensaries in denver then there are starbucks haha
Its a shame they need to be mutually exclusive. Just goes to show the anti-legalization powers are still winning. They have succeeded in dividing the community.
Same bullshit with "Medical" marijuana and seeds. Who decided that one strain is somehow "medical" while another is not. There are only two groups that benefit from any strain being labeled "medical". Seed Distributors (not growers or breeders) and the folks who use the "Medical" argument to keep marijuana illegal. Was Michael Phelps smoking "Medical" marijuana? Who cares?! The man won 7 fucking Olympic Medals. Trained his entire frigging life! More discipline before he was 15 than most of us will ever have. HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SMOKE A BONG BECAUSE HE WANTS TO! No Prescription Needed!
Same bullshit with commercial growers saying they harvest a week early for less amber and couch lock. All bullshit. If you want a plant with less THC get a plant with less THC! But don't grow a strain wrong! This is marketing bullshit by growers who want to turn out a faster crop. THC reaches max potency when the little bulbs on the tri are amber. When the stems of tris start turning amber they are over ripe. When 50% of the tris are amber the plant is at peak ripeness. After that for every one that turns amber, one will go over ripe. It's like bananas going from green to yellow to black. But if you want less THC that's like asking for a smaller banana. You still want the tastiest banana you can find, just a small one - a little less banana. Same with cannabis. If too much THC gets you too stoned - then grow or buy strains with less THC, but don't eat a green banana!
I have tested 5 different strains amongst MANY people now and I can tell you 100% - that's right 100% of the time - when I space a harvest over two weeks - the buds that are preferred by EVERYONE are the ones harvested at 50% vs 10%. Sativas or Indicas. Hell, the effects are so nicely rounded that half the time folks think my Indicas are Sativas.
Zowza - that one turned into a rant! Wait til you see the next.
Bout friggin time I get that done.
I'm a retard. That'll help lots. So between that and new ventillation I am getting pretty excited. The last thing on the list as far as upgrades to the room will be a 3/4" or bigger pvc DTW.
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