Re: Papa Green's Utopian Sub v2 - You, Me, and Barney's Farm makes 3 - Perpetual 2000
yo papa how bout a clear storage bag over some bamboo poles like put 1 in each corner and make a frame then put the storage bag over it? that might work
Yeah. I'm a lookin! I just don't have anything handier than just picking up the mister. She's holding her own I think. I was thinking maybe a dry cleaning bag.
Hey Papa. Just have to say what a valuable contribution you're making to this forum and to the overall world of cannaculture. You, and the other senior growers on this forum, make this the best place on the internet for your fellow ganja farmers.
Many thanks to you.
Thanks man! That means a lot. I get as much out as I put in that's for sure!
Hey Papa,
Thanks for checkin out my grow as yours was one I read extensively for ideas. Anyway I really dig your setup. Homemade ebb and grow huh, that's moderately impressive
. I'll be following along for sure.
There's two different DIY Ebb & Gros there
One is my gravity version that requires the buckets be above the res, but only needs one pump. The other is a used E&G controller on my 5G system. Actually, both are using my modified 5G Hempy/E&G system. Thanks for noticing !
Hello my friend Papa Green I can say that you left no stone unturned in your opening. Well done. I have so much confidence in you that I'm not wearing my life saving vest this time. Your completeness in the opening was brilliant. You've done the home work for us already.
With all the mods you have made in the sub, it's a much better place to grow in.
There's room for all that you intend to do and the equipment is place, thanks to your attention to detail.
It is with pleasure I that I look forward to learning even more from you.
You don't mind that I take the center front row seat do you? I want to see it all as it grows and grows.
Thanks OMM! Coming from you that means a great deal. I too am struck by how much your current grow is different from the last. For one thing it didn't start out with a hurt back! That's gotta make all the difference in the world right there. Roller coasters are fun and make for a good read, but I think we're both looking forward to some smooth sailing for a while.
Nice papa great start buddy i''m def in
and awesome info and strains man you really got this one goin in pro mode
let me know if homegirl the top survies I'm rootin for her before my G-Ma passed she taught me how to clone plants in general with just water and a bit of baking soda on the basal end of the clone and then just stickin em dirt; I have tried a couple times with some tops and every time they come out just like that one and i never have had the skills to keep em alive so i stopped & just use regular cloning methods haha
Great job though my man good growin to yah
That's good stuff from G-Ma. I did use the cloning gel on the bottom of the plant. And I stripped down the outer bark by pulling down from the branch nodes to help with roots. And the Pro-Mix was watered with a mild Olivia's nutes.
I prolly coulda just used baking soda.
*edit* Sorry, this post went from a simple question to a thin book.. Your grow gets me thinking and asking questions *edit*
So Papa, You talk a lot about the transition time. Maybe in all my readings I have never heard of it referred to as that (or quite possibly I just forgot). But essentially what you're calling "transition week(s)" is just the time between switching to 12/12 and seeing the first pistols? Is it at the first sign of pistols which you begin the flowering day count, or like some others do you extend transition time to when you first see baby buds starting to form on the colas?
How does this work if your plant has been vegging for awhile (3 or more months) and is already pre-flowering?
Also, you mention how volde is much more temperamental in regards to PPM, especially in respect to U.H. What have your observations been thus far in regards to the optimal PPM for each? I was under the impression (from Barneys website) that volde is supposed to be fairly easy to grow, provided it gets attention. Maybe the definition of fairly easy to grow differs from ours.
While my brain keeps coming up with these questions....
The Utopia Haze is supposed to have two phenos. Not sure if one is better than the other, as I can't find a whole lot of info. How many UH beans did you pop and did you notice any differences between them?
You mentioned a high times print article about UH from 2008. Do you have that article, or can you point me to the issue that has that info so I can order a copy.
For now, that's all I got! Keep up the great work!
Great questions! Never worry about writing too much in this journal.
Transition is a nebulous term. And yes - I basically count it as over when I start to see buds, and the stretch starts to slow. Basically I've discovered that if I use the seed manufacturers' numbers for flowering period - my plants always come in at the end. Maybe that's cause I like 50% amber so it makes sense that I would be at the end of their flowering period. I find that if I think of that 7-10 days after switching to 12/12 as transition it helps me get the timing right. Also, some of the nute schedules call for different nutes during this time - moving from a high N to a higher P-K.
As far as the Volde. I think she likes right at medium nutes. For me that's 1200ppm mid Veg and 1500ppm mid Flower. She likes less Cal/Mag than the others I think. Still confirming that. Her pH needs to stay right at the baselines I think. In hydro 5.75pH, Soil 6.25pH. That part on the site cracks me up. "With a little care". Notice its the only one that says with a little care. That's advertiser speak for you gotta baby this one. Aside from that - she has indeed been resistant to rot and mold - but that having been said - all my plants are. Knock on wood - I've never had a problem with either on any plant.
The Utopia has been just a great plant. I've seen no issues with her. I had not heard that there are two phenos, but I guess I would believe it. I only flowered 3 seeds and 2 were very similar and the other a little smaller and significantly less bushy. Not much experience growing them from seed. The clones are all coming from the biggest and nicest of the 1st three plants, and they are all very regular obviously.
Your buddies plants look friggin awesome. I'd be hitting him up for tips, 'cause he definitely knows what he's doing. If mine come anywhere close to those I'll be thrilled.
Edit: I was just re-reading that description and I see some UH in OMM's future
