Unforgiven's - Picture-A-Day - Barney's Critical Kush - DWC

unforgiven said:
the boss said buy the air pump....so thank her for that lol. that one from that beeg online store ya showed me no pain. except i did pay the extra 20 for 4 outlet. figger 2 extra stones and lines for 20 bux aint too bad. and if i wanna run 4 stones at some point for other stuff ican.

damn sez sept 14-27 for delivery but at least it was free shipping.


have fun eh
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The Boss heh ? You mean the one holding that pack of smokes . Lol. Glad to hear it . I think your going to be moving a lot of air in that bucket and you and baby are going to be happy with it .. It's the one thing I always hated about the dwc kits I started with ...then bubblers always sucked ass and I can't tell you how many air tubes / stones I went threw before getting my aeroflo20. Then I was part of a forum way over in the deep corner of the net that dealt with mushrooms,cacti and well a wide range of medicinal stuff . In there one guy had a journal and used a five gallon bucket and a pond aerater ...let me tell you that plant was super happy ...his disc was neoprene but I feel you will be happy with the stones ..you can always change disc they aren't that expensive . But the pump if you went with the 4 port ..you got the big daddy :) ...it's going to move some air . I can't wait to see it in action .... Funny thing is I thought about asking you for a good address today and sending one to you . Lol For real ..I'm just a nice guy and well I love hydro :) .
 
yes birdie thanking the boss....we were out all day.....sooo im a lil bit late getting to the girls...i peeked in and grabbed the bottles already temp was at 85.6 so we'll see what the res sez.

thanks no pain. like i said, for 20 more i might as well get the 4 port. should move more air wherever i may want it. be it 2 in dwc and 2 in cloner.. whatever.

i definately appreciate that you were thinkin of me brother, those kind thoughts don't go unnoticed in this world. and i have wanted to try a dwc since i started growing a few years back, just never put out the dollars to do so. this one is my test, so hopefully it gets better from here on out..

update will come....idunno, either tonight or in the morning. dunno how much work i have to do up there yet, might be awhile. then we are due to get up first thing and take off to the city again dagnabbit!!! nice when she has 3 day weekends......i love it.....ahem...

thank you hunny for the pump!!! lol

have fun eh
 
unforgiven said:
..i peeked in and grabbed the bottles already temp was at 85.6 so we'll see what the res sez.

thanks no pain. like i said, for 20 more i might as well get the 4 port. should move more air wherever i may want it. be it 2 in dwc and 2 in cloner.. whatever.

i definately appreciate that you were thinkin of me brother, those kind thoughts don't go unnoticed in this world. and i have wanted to try a dwc since i started growing a few years back, just never put out the dollars to do so. this one is my test, so hopefully it gets better from here on out..


have fun eh
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Your welcome . It's who I am and remembering my first rounds with hydro. Starting out and having things go someone what south can be discouraging to say the least , but on the flip side I feel it's when you learn the most . You will get there ..I may challenge you to start an auto in a different bucket once you get that pump :) ..I feel we will have things dialed in quite a bit :) . I don't know that I will go back to dwc ..I'm loving the aero life to much .lol

When you make a fresh res put that hydrogen peroxide in there and make a separate gallon the same way and just put it off to the side covered with a black garbage bag ( we don't want light hitting it) . This way we can see how that solution is 3-4 days later ..,meaning is it slimy or thick ? We need to rule out the nutes your using . I'm not saying what your using is bad but it might not be suitable for your envorment .. If it turns out that your nutes gum up . I will recommend gh nutes micro,grow and bloom with hydrogen peroxide nothing more . For the simple reason that back in the day I didn't pay attention to res temps and had crazy room temps even up to the 90's and never had a problem with the nutes gelling . I also had excellent results with them . Don't worry we are going to make this simple and with any luck a true pleasure to watch and play with.
 
okie dokie so day umm 60 lol had to look back...

ya'll will like what you see in the root zone.... i know i did!!!

still got the slime, but i don't think it's the nutes. i did a res change and there's nothing slimy in the bucket at all. last week it was hella slimy when i did that cleanup. chunky slimy eh. now nothing in the water at all. great news there. i can still test the nutes though, thats a great idea.

soo the stats......T: 85.6...RH: 47....PH: 6.4....REST: 75.9....PPM: 681...yep a drop...

heres a few pics for you bloody addicts lmao...

start off small.....while i was doing the cleanup, i had the wife make me a new hat of fiberfill....
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sweet deal eh? pretty good airflow through it but it should trap the pollen quite well.

ooohhh i guess you wanna see the girl eh?
here she is before cleanup tonight...
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here she is after cleanup tonight....
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oohhh wait...i mentioned roots didn't i? lmao here ya go,
before cleanup....
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and after cleanup...

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wish i had loaded pics on computer before putting her home, i still see some more gunk coming out of the net pot there...

anyhoo that is where she sits for the moment...

have fun eh....

oh, and what about them freakin roots baybeeee? lol love the growth today...
 
Looking good ! That's the shit I'm talking about ! If you see gunk in the cup just keep cleaning her with peroxide every day , twice a day whatever until she gets cleaned up . Told you she would start reaching for that nute solution:passitleft: but truly awesome stuff !
 
Alrighty I've been doing some thinking some of that dangerous shit . Lol. Now I'm still wanting to test the nutes in a separate container .

She is comming along very nicely . So I'm going to take an educated guess and if I'm wrong I'm wrong and I it's okay if I am . What I was thinking is that pretty much since the beginning you have had the bulk of her netcup submerged in the nute solution . If I am correct it would answer part of the question as to where that bacteria came from .
 
No Pain said:
Looking good ! That's the shit I'm talking about ! If you see gunk in the cup just keep cleaning her with peroxide every day , twice a day whatever until she gets cleaned up . Told you she would start reaching for that nute solution:passitleft: but truly awesome stuff !
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My words exactly! Those new roots? Thats the shit I'm talkin bout! Nice to see that pretty white.

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actually you are wrong lol. in the beginning i used a drip ring. after i started to see root, it was up n down on nute levels trying to find the happy spot. say from 1/4 to 1/2 to 1 inch away from nutes. whatever it was not submerged, but maybe too wet at 1/4.

thinking eh.....always causes troubles...


No Pain said:
Alrighty I've been doing some thinking some of that dangerous shit . Lol. Now I'm still wanting to test the nutes in a separate container .

She is comming along very nicely . So I'm going to take an educated guess and if I'm wrong I'm wrong and I it's okay if I am . What I was thinking is that pretty much since the beginning you have had the bulk of her netcup submerged in the nute solution . If I am correct it would answer part of the question as to where that bacteria came from .
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day 61 yesterday....gone most of the day again...but when we got back i was mucking about with the exhaust. put the Y pipe in, didn't change any hose lengths yet. wanted to test first....

the stats......T: 80.7...RH: 42....PH: 6.6....REST: 69.6....PPM: 1040

so after muckin about, i left it for almost 2 hours running the test....tent temp came in at 75.7 so nice difference.. we'll see what its like today. but i do need to shorten the run from 5x5 to the fan, its too long, kinda a pita. i am getting neg pressure in both tents as is tho, so thats cool. i also need to re open some of the vents in 4x8.

the pic....
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thats it for now folks, short n sweet, work to do

have fun eh
 
unforgiven said:
actually you are wrong lol. in the beginning i used a drip ring. after i started to see root, it was up n down on nute levels trying to find the happy spot. say from 1/4 to 1/2 to 1 inch away from nutes. whatever it was not submerged, but maybe too wet at 1/4.

thinking eh.....always causes troubles...
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That's me . Lol it's okay I can be wrong , just not to often lol.
Okay I do remember you using the ring. Now when you used the ring did you have it pulling from a separate source or the bucket?

How is that root zone looking ?

Edit..... We aren't going to use that drip ring on the next one .. Hehe

Cool deal on you ventilation . Glad to hear that "y" pipe helped you out.
 
Nice job on re-working the ventilation and getting temps down! :welldone:

Actually, I don't believe No Pain was really wrong on the submerged roots. The drip ring running constantly on a young seedling basically has the same effect, which I found out "the hard way" very early with my WaterFarms.

Usually, I will simply mist the cube to keep it moist until I see some GOOD roots coming out of the cube (not when I first see a root emerging!) before starting the drip system.

It's very possible that the cube staying drenched before you had a good root system was the initial cause of the bacteria and it just spread from there.
 
Mr. Krip said:
Nice job on re-working the ventilation and getting temps down! :welldone:

Actually, I don't believe No Pain was really wrong on the submerged roots. The drip ring running constantly on a young seedling basically has the same effect, which I found out "the hard way" very early with my WaterFarms.

Usually, I will simply mist the cube to keep it moist until I see some GOOD roots coming out of the cube (not when I first see a root emerging!) before starting the drip system.

It's very possible that the cube staying drenched before you had a good root system was the initial cause of the bacteria and it just spread from there.
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When I heard about the drip ring I was thinking that thier was some contaminant in the net cup that was given an envorment to thrive in and then drip down into the bucket and really spread itself around . I never used drip rings . I always put the rooter into the net cup after roots are established and after its in the cup I put it in a container and have water / solution just barley touching the bottom of the cup , like in the first page of my journal .
 
No Pain said:
When I heard about the drip ring I was thinking that thier was some contaminant in the net cup that was given an envorment to thrive in and then drip down into the bucket and really spread itself around . I never used drip rings . I always put the rooter into the net cup after roots are established and after its in the cup I put it in a container and have water / solution just barley touching the bottom of the cup , like in the first page of my journal .
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Even if you've never used drip rings, I know you understand the implications of over-watered or over-drenched grow cubes/media which is no oxygen to the roots and pythium sets in. That is basically what happens when we start the drip system (or, as you pointed out, submerge the cube in a DWC) before a seedling or clone has sufficient roots.
 
there is no medium except the hydroton. the plant is in there bare.

did that because i've had rockwool rot stems out before on my buddies setup.

annnd that is likely why it took sooo long for her to get going. i know, lol.

annnd that is why i'm trying out them rapid rooters now. trying for a different media if i do dwc or even an aero again.

have fun eh
 
unforgiven said:
there is no medium except the hydroton. the plant is in there bare.

did that because i've had rockwool rot stems out before on my buddies setup.

annnd that is likely why it took sooo long for her to get going. i know, lol.

annnd that is why i'm trying out them rapid rooters now. trying for a different media if i do dwc or even an aero again.

have fun eh
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I remembered that you put her in there naked . My guess is there might have been a spec or so of dirt in the hydroton that caused the contamination in the system .

If you do dwc or even an aero again? You gotta do atleast one more . After we bring her up to speed your going to be an expert in hydro . Lol

So in the event that I missed it , how are those roots doing ?
 
guess we will have to see at next update... cleaned her up again yesterday, got a lil violent in her "bathwater" so she lost a couple, but definately got more of the "slime" out of the net. still see some there...

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lot of them roots gathered up together too lol

cya soon

have fun eh
 
unforgiven said:
guess we will have to see at next update... cleaned her up again yesterday, got a lil violent in her "bathwater" so she lost a couple, but definately got more of the "slime" out of the net. still see some there...

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lot of them roots gathered up together too lol

cya soon

have fun eh
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Yep ..just keep giving her an h202 bath ..maybe fill up a tub with water/h202 and dip her in it and give it a swirl or so or even a little soak time to make sure everything in that cup gets a good dose .But she definitely has some legs coming out :).

Edited...forgot to ask about the increase in ppm ..was that on res change ?
 
day 62 here in the bucket...

hey no pain, yep it was a res change, damn i forgot to put up the stats or anything on that. it was done on the 9th it is week 3 veg.

the stats @ res change were......T: 85.4...RH: 47....PH: 6.4....REST: 68.6....PPM: 1050

good catch, thank you. i was just thinking about that a few minutes ago in the room.

soo today the stats......T: 71.4...RH: 47....PH: 6.4....REST: 66.2....PPM: 1060 up a bit here....but yesterday it was flipping back n forth 104-105 couldn't even catch a pic of it at 105...kept tryin didnt happen.

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still some bloody goo hangin there...

have fun eh
 
Thank you I thought that's what you did when I first read that ppm reading . I just forgot to ask ..lol

Yes that goo is going to be a pain to get rid off. Just don't know how bad it is in there .. There are some other things you can do to help, but they aren't easy . You could dig out as much of the hydroton as possible and replace it with h20/h202 soaked hydroton ..I say this because it is porise and you could have some that are filled with that bacteria and that's another reason I suggested that soak for her . Basically the more of it that you can get out of there the better off she will be and faster she will recover . It's just like when we get an infection , sometimes it's a pain in the ass to get rid off.
 
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