Tunkers Seedsman Neville's Haze - Refrigerated

[JustMeds]

Yep, I think she was drowning. Her nose is above water now.

 

[Tunkers]

That would be an easy fix if you're timer was out of wack. Would be nice to see the fogger growing good.

I may even drop it back to 3 hours until it gets more roots. Seems to still have a droplet of water hanging for dear life at the end of the main taproot before the timer comes on. I'll test it tomorrow for the day.

 

[Tunkers]

Pot it in some soil until you're sure the fogger is on point and then clean up the roots and put it in a netcup.
I start all mine in soil and move them to the RDWC at about 20 days without any issues.

That doesn't sound like something I'd do with a bag seed.... Sounds like something some safe, know it all panzy would do. Where does that get ya? Besides having enormous plants with large quantity of bud? Empty and alone I bet... Sad, sad Scrogdawg...

 

[Tunkers]

How is the temp inside foliage grow box? To me it looks like its too cold or too hot not or not enough air exchange. Roots look good!

Gauge

Haven't taken the temp in there actually but it's not hot. The fan blowing the fog is cool and between the timer on it's in a cool room. Winter here. Hope it's not too cold though... Cheers for that I'll suss it out

 

[Tunkers]

You could do that OR add an airstone and fill the bucket up so the roots grow into it and have a hybrid DWC Fogger. Just fog with H20 and feed from the bucket. Just my 2Schillings. It might be a monster.

Gauge

You mean fill up the bucket I have the Nev in now?

I might do what lame arse Scrogdawg said and pot it. I'll just chuck it under the same light the nevs under for the moment until Sal's done using the other. Maybe by then I'll get a sense whether the fogmonster is gonna work well enough to but another atomizer - or a justmeds humidifier Gizmo perhaps...

 

[Tunkers]

Yep, I think she was drowning. Her nose is above water now.

Cheers JM good looking out. Doggy paddling along. It's gonna turn into another Sal saga...

 

[Blazin Waffle]

I'm creepily stalking this grow. Neville's is my favorite strain.
Friend smuggled some from Amsterdam and I've been looking for it ever since!

Cheers!!!

 

[Tunkers]

I'm creepily stalking this grow. Neville's is my favorite strain.
Friend smuggled some from Amsterdam and I've been looking for it ever since!

Cheers!!!

Welcome blazin waffle. Sorry to fuck with ya fave! Haha I got 2 fem Neville's gifted to me would you believe? If it's someone's favourite it musn't be half bad so cheers mate let's hope she'll put on a good show

 

[Tunkers]

Lookey what I got .

No more fog to be seen. Tipped out the hydroton balls and she just gonna dangle. Leaving the timer with 3hr gaps, seems to be ok with it so far. Looking pale like my last seedlings. Must be the tap water I need to remember to add more nutes straight off the bat.

 

[Scrogdawg]

Looks good dude. Hope she comes around. What did you do with the new bean?

 

[Tunkers]

Looks good dude. Hope she comes around. What did you do with the new bean?

New Bean is still germing away..

While stoned and trying to sleep I decided what I'm doing with this bag seed.

As I enjoy experimenting (didn't notice?) And my outdoor DWC buckets for fruit n veg are working well, I'm gonna do this one plant in DWC being fed the same food they're getting.

Red bottle for veg I think and purple for flower. Also seasol from the same family which is not in the photo. I'll also add a few compost teas if all goes well. Interested to see how it goes coz this stuff is cheap and made here in Australia .

 

[Scrogdawg]

I'm gonna do this one plant in DWC being fed the same food they're getting.

Now yer talking...

 

[Blazin Waffle]

New Bean is still germing away..

While stoned and trying to sleep I decided what I'm doing with this bag seed.

As I enjoy experimenting (didn't notice?) And my outdoor DWC buckets for fruit n veg are working well, I'm gonna do this one plant in DWC being fed the same food they're getting.

Red bottle for veg I think and purple for flower. Also seasol from the same family which is not in the photo. I'll also add a few compost teas if all goes well. Interested to see how it goes coz this stuff is cheap and made here in Australia .

Nice!!! Do those bottles have N-P-K breakdowns?

 

[Tunkers]

Nice!!! Do those bottles have N-P-K breakdowns?

 

[Blazin Waffle]

Man, they are both packed with N!

 

[Tunkers]

Man, they are both packed with N!

Yeah, like I said my broccoli is loving it and my strawbs are starting runners now

 

[TorturedSoul]

I thought I had the timer for 15 every 2 hrs but I didn't flick quite enough of the "prong" things so it was more like an hr and 15 I think?

Are you using one of those timers that has... 24-hour representation of a day, with little push-pull things all the way around the outside of a circle, 96 of them? I pretty much quit using those back when "coffeepot" was the same thing as "perculator." (I still use a perculator, but everyone else seems to... drip.) Those things will work fine for a while and then you'll wake up to no coffee - or wake up to coffee that was made several hours too early :rolleyes3 . I did use one in a grow room setting back in 2011. Must have melted something internally, because it developed a nasty habit of getting "stuck." I used to look at it often, and several times each week I'd have to turn the dial until it agreed with reality. Tossed it before flowering. Probably should have tossed the thing as I was leaving the store with it, but it was cheap - and so was I. I think those things are made with about 20% of the metal that they used to have, and it leads to a much higher incidence of failures.

I'd think you'd want MANY foggings of SHORT duration throughout the "day" (and perhaps one or two during the "night" in order to keep the roots moist, if needed - or, alternatively, several in order to ensure that the moisture on those roots is as aerated as possible). As opposed to a shorter number of LONG-duration events. No wonder stem-rot is a concern.

Man, they are both packed with N!

Yeah, might be great for vegetative phase growth and even the first 40% of flowering, but I'd not use either one past the stretch. Might even want to start reducing nitrogen intake before the stretch has ended (but not stop feeding nitrogen altogether at that point, of course). IMHO.

 

[Tunkers]

Are you using one of those timers that has... 24-hour representation of a day, with little push-pull things all the way around the outside of a circle, 96 of them? I pretty much quit using those back when "coffeepot" was the same thing as "perculator." (I still use a perculator, but everyone else seems to... drip.) Those things will work fine for a while and then you'll wake up to no coffee - or wake up to coffee that was made several hours too early :rolleyes3 . I did use one in a grow room setting back in 2011. Must have melted something internally, because it developed a nasty habit of getting "stuck." I used to look at it often, and several times each week I'd have to turn the dial until it agreed with reality. Tossed it before flowering. Probably should have tossed the thing as I was leaving the store with it, but it was cheap - and so was I. I think those things are made with about 20% of the metal that they used to have, and it leads to a much higher incidence of failures.

I'd think you'd want MANY foggings of SHORT duration throughout the "day" (and perhaps one or two during the "night" in order to keep the roots moist, if needed - or, alternatively, several in order to ensure that the moisture on those roots is as aerated as possible). As opposed to a shorter number of LONG-duration events. No wonder stem-rot is a concern.



Yeah, might be great for vegetative phase growth and even the first 40% of flowering, but I'd not use either one past the stretch. Might even want to start reducing nitrogen intake before the stretch has ended (but not stop feeding nitrogen altogether at that point, of course). IMHO.

The timer most certainly is one of those dial type with 15 minute pin intervals etc. Funny thing is, I purchased a canaponics dial timer that was shorter time incriments and it died instantly. The ones I have been using for lights and aero and fogging so far haven't missed a beat, so long as I set the bloody things correctly. Maybe Australian standards are a bit better nowadays .

I agree shorter fogs would be more ideal, though the price point for what I want without doing any wiring myself is not ideal. I'm gonna sit down this evening and work out this stuff justmeds bought and make an order for some stuff (don't tell the wife)

 

[TorturedSoul]

The timer most certainly is one of those dial type with 15 minute pin intervals etc. Funny thing is, I purchased a canaponics dial timer that was shorter time incriments and it died instantly. The ones I have been using for lights and aero and fogging so far haven't missed a beat, so long as I set the bloody things correctly.

I'm glad your timers are functioning good at present. I can't even recommend a specific good, inexpensive one any more. Half seem to be junk, and many of the rest are pretty sketchy compared to things produced pre-1975 or so. (Way of the world, I guess - but it wouldn't be if the majority of the planet's population stopped buying it. Of course... we'd end up living in caves and clothed in furs for the next few years :rolleyes3 ... ) I feel like a hypocrite, lol, but I've just got some cheap unbranded digital timer controlling my lighting right now. I'm not positive, but I think it was less than ten dollars - because a dual-timer, dual-outlet version was only $14.95. It's specified capability (both in resistive and inductive watts) is above any load I place on it - but the same was true for the timers I've owned in the past that went barking. It even has some kind of battery backup that works, to a degree (every time the electricity is off for more than a minute, the timer loses two minutes from its internal clock - so far it has been consistent regardless of whether the power loss is for two minutes or 22½ hours, go figure). It works - but I don't really trust it. I check it regularly and try to notice lights on/off events. If I was on a flowering schedule, I'd be more concerned. And if I was doing an aeroponics/fogponics grow, I'd be scared silly that the timer controlling the nutrient solution would do a runner and cause my plants to die (or turn shim and seed each other, I suppose).

I'd also want to have a cheap UPS for that part of the setup, so that the foggers never even noticed any power failures. But that's just a thought from a mere observer who has never tried this method before. Does it seem that the plants in general might survive a power outage of any extended time? I suppose the humidity inside the root chamber is pretty high at all times - so that would tend to help in this regard, I'd think.

Maybe Australian standards are a bit better nowadays

From what little bit of reading about Australian product safety and consumer protection laws I've done, I'd guess that they're higher than the United States'.

price point

Ah, yes... That's me in a nutshell, lol; I understand. I routinely recommend things that I couldn't afford to buy/use/do personally. And I've seen plenty of people recommend things that were said to be cheap, and thought, "In what universe is this cheap? Cheap is where you decide you want something and don't end up losing ten pounds when you save up for the next few weeks to get it." Sometimes, you do the best you can with what you've got and have to be... not satisfied, lol, but accepting of what you get from it.

 

[Tunkers]

I'm glad your timers are functioning good at present. I can't even recommend a specific good, inexpensive one any more. Half seem to be junk, and many of the rest are pretty sketchy compared to things produced pre-1975 or so. (Way of the world, I guess - but it wouldn't be if the majority of the planet's population stopped buying it. Of course... we'd end up living in caves and clothed in furs for the next few years :rolleyes3 ... ) I feel like a hypocrite, lol, but I've just got some cheap unbranded digital timer controlling my lighting right now. I'm not positive, but I think it was less than ten dollars - because a dual-timer, dual-outlet version was only $14.95. It's specified capability (both in resistive and inductive watts) is above any load I place on it - but the same was true for the timers I've owned in the past that went barking. It even has some kind of battery backup that works, to a degree (every time the electricity is off for more than a minute, the timer loses two minutes from its internal clock - so far it has been consistent regardless of whether the power loss is for two minutes or 22½ hours, go figure). It works - but I don't really trust it. I check it regularly and try to notice lights on/off events. If I was on a flowering schedule, I'd be more concerned. And if I was doing an aeroponics/fogponics grow, I'd be scared silly that the timer controlling the nutrient solution would do a runner and cause my plants to die (or turn shim and seed each other, I suppose).

I'd also want to have a cheap UPS for that part of the setup, so that the foggers never even noticed any power failures. But that's just a thought from a mere observer who has never tried this method before. Does it seem that the plants in general might survive a power outage of any extended time? I suppose the humidity inside the root chamber is pretty high at all times - so that would tend to help in this regard, I'd think.



From what little bit of reading about Australian product safety and consumer protection laws I've done, I'd guess that they're higher than the United States'.



Ah, yes... That's me in a nutshell, lol; I understand. I routinely recommend things that I couldn't afford to buy/use/do personally. And I've seen plenty of people recommend things that were said to be cheap, and thought, "In what universe is this cheap? Cheap is where you decide you want something and don't end up losing ten pounds when you save up for the next few weeks to get it." Sometimes, you do the best you can with what you've got and have to be... not satisfied, lol, but accepting of what you get from it.

I have a video feed running that keeps me notified of lights on / off just in case of failures. I looked into a UPS a while ago, and again, it's an expense that I can't justify... Yet... Lol there's a couple floating around at work that I find useless because if power goes out, we can't trade anyway... Maybe it won't matter if one goes missing...

I'm gonna bite the bullet and get that inkbird timer justmeds got on eBay and play with electricity until something happens.