Trala’s Tent

[Trala]

Your girls look so amazing!!! Exciting times

Thank you 013

You have been a great help to me

 

[Billpopy79]

They are looking much better
Quadlining does slow growth so it almost looks like you have less plant but because you are exposing the nodes and keeping it all nice and even they should yield really well.

Be ready, now they are fed and happy they will grow faster, you will want to be flowering them soon

 

[Trala]

They are looking much better
Quadlining does slow growth so it almost looks like you have less plant but because you are exposing the nodes and keeping it all nice and even they should yield really well.

Be ready, now they are fed and happy they will grow faster, you will want to be flowering them soon

I need advice.

The tent is 100% too small for 4.

Which ones would you banish if you had to?

And when do you think I should flip?

 

[Billpopy79]

I need advice.

The tent is 100% too small for 4.

Which ones would you banish if you had to?

And when do you think I should flip?

Keep them all

They all look good and have a great shape.
I couldn't choose.
If you flipped them in like the next few days you might just be able to fit all 4 in there, they will mostly grow vertical after the flip.

If you wanted to play it safe I think you could veg 1 more week and keep 3 plants in the tent.

Are you around 12hrs sunlight there?
If so you could flip all 4 in the tent, if it starts to get too crowded you could kick one outside.

 

[Trala]

Keep them all

They all look good and have a great shape.
I couldn't choose.
If you flipped them in like the next few days you might just be able to fit all 4 in there, they will mostly grow vertical after the flip.

If you wanted to play it safe I think you could veg 1 more week and keep 3 plants in the tent.

Are you around 12hrs sunlight there?
If so you could flip all 4 in the tent, if it starts to get too crowded you could kick one outside.

Hey Bill

I think we get approx 10-11 hours of sunlight.

It is so full in the tent, like brimming. The quadlined one is my favourite, she is definitely staying in the tent. I just can’t envision how all 4 will fit.

If one does get voted out, I could still bring it in at night so it doesn’t get too cold.

I definitely want to play it safe. I will veg longer if that is safer! I have zero idea on when to do it.

 

[Billpopy79]

Hey Bill

I think we get approx 10-11 hours of sunlight.

It is so full in the tent, like brimming. The quadlined one is my favourite, she is definitely staying in the tent. I just can’t envision how all 4 will fit.

If one does get voted out, I could still bring it in at night so it doesn’t get too cold.

I definitely want to play it safe. I will veg longer if that is safer! I have zero idea on when to do it.

Ok I've had my morning coffee quota now and im mostly human again.

Looking at the picture above I'd say it's about perfect to flip now.
You want to fill your tent as much as possible to maximize the space you have.
Is your tent 80x80 or 70x70?


If it were me I would let them go to one more water/feed cycle then flip.

10-11hrs sunlight is great, if you do have to evict one it can just carry on flowering outside.

You could always invest in a waterproof seedling heat pad to keep the roots from getting too cold at night.
They are not expensive.
If you were to bring it inside at night it would need somewhere totally dark.

 

[Trala]

Ok I've had my morning coffee quota now and im mostly human again.

Looking at the picture above I'd say it's about perfect to flip now.
You want to fill your tent as much as possible to maximize the space you have.
Is your tent 80x80 or 70x70?


If it were me I would let them go to one more water/feed cycle then flip.

10-11hrs sunlight is great, if you do have to evict one it can just carry on flowering outside.

You could always invest in a waterproof seedling heat pad to keep the roots from getting too cold at night.
They are not expensive.
If you were to bring it inside at night it would need somewhere totally dark.

70cm x 70cm

OMG! What does that mean? Like do I have to water them once more, then feed them once more?

And I put it on 12 hours of light, 12 of dark hey?

I have a totally dark spot for her inside.

OMGGGG I’m so nervous! How long is the flower cycle?

 

[Billpopy79]

70cm x 70cm

OMG! What does that mean? Like do I have to water them once more, then feed them once more?

And I put it on 12 hours of light, 12 of dark hey?

I have a totally dark spot for her inside.

OMGGGG I’m so nervous! How long is the flower cycle?

Calm down, calm down (done in my best fake Scouse accent)

So your plants have 35x35cm each.

These had 40cm width each 120cm wide tent and this photo was on the day I flipped.
It's doable.

Yes flip them straight after the next feed.
You may need to feed with every watering as you have a Coco mix, Coco needs feeding with every watering.

I'm guessing they will be ready for a watering in the next few days. You can judge if they need feeding when the time comes.

Yeah 12 light 12 dark.

Nothing to be nervous about.
Who knows how long the flower cycle will be.
Anything from 45-90 days.
60-70 days would be my best guess, they will be ready when they are ready.

I'm interested to see how well your clones produce, clones from budding plants are known to produce really well, search up monstercropping

 

[Ganjagrandaddy]

Yes yes and more yes TraLa. Good call. Now is the perfect time. Look how spread out the nodes are in the quad now too. Great job. They will start to accelerate with veg growth now and virtually double in size. As they are tight in , this will all be vertical for you. Try to keep mindful of light getti g to the lower parts of each growing main. The game here is to keep each limb in a portion of light from tip to base if possible. This may sound d crazy as they are packed in but this is where defoliation comes in. As leaves block the lower parts , we remove them while in stretch if it means more light below. These will be bigger fan leaves and the light you have will easily cover the tent in enough light to not worry ability losing some fans.. this will.make sense as you go now. Well done on flipping. Keep up the food work. Coco is brilliant if treated as hydro and fed constantly. I am a big fan of it too.lol

 

[Trala]

Calm down, calm down (done in my best fake Scouse accent)

So your plants have 35x35cm each.

These had 40cm width each 120cm wide tent and this photo was on the day I flipped.
It's doable.

Yes flip them straight after the next feed.
You may need to feed with every watering as you have a Coco mix, Coco needs feeding with every watering.

I'm guessing they will be ready for a watering in the next few days. You can judge if they need feeding when the time comes.

Yeah 12 light 12 dark.

Nothing to be nervous about.
Who knows how long the flower cycle will be.
Anything from 45-90 days.
60-70 days would be my best guess, they will be ready when they are ready.

I'm interested to see how well your clones produce, clones from budding plants are known to produce really well, search up monstercropping

Don’t you tell me ta calm dOW-n ya fuckin‘ tip rat (said in my best fake bogan accent)

Thank you rainman, but something for you to ponder, if I have 4 x 30cm pots in a tent that is 70cm x 700mm and I drink 2x coffees, in a 306mL mug, using 269mL of boiling water from my 1.89Lkettle which weighs approx 924g empty and I decide to add milk, how many mL If milk is too much?

Ok, plan sorted. Flipping Sunday. Sunday is a fun day and it’s my last day of holidays.

I remain nervous, I literally have zero idea on what I’m doing. My outdoor grows involved a seed in potting mix and rain water, when it didn’t rain I smashed them with a hose. I did even top them! They grew wild like a 70’s porn star‘s lady garden!

 

[Trala]

Yes yes and more yes TraLa. Good call. Now is the perfect time. Look how spread out the nodes are in the quad now too. Great job. They will start to accelerate with veg growth now and virtually double in size. As they are tight in , this will all be vertical for you. Try to keep mindful of light getti g to the lower parts of each growing main. The game here is to keep each limb in a portion of light from tip to base if possible. This may sound d crazy as they are packed in but this is where defoliation comes in. As leaves block the lower parts , we remove them while in stretch if it means more light below. These will be bigger fan leaves and the light you have will easily cover the tent in enough light to not worry ability losing some fans.. this will.make sense as you go now. Well done on flipping. Keep up the food work. Coco is brilliant if treated as hydro and fed constantly. I am a big fan of it too.lol

Hello G

You we’re right about the quadline, it looks so beautiful, there is a X of lovely green growth along the lines. Hey question, once I get to that stage, do I still keep tying down?

I think one will end up outside, I’m already finding it hard to fit them in, they are all joining arms in there and impeding on each other’s growth space.

They are still really stunted. Do you think that could be the coco?

So the plan is in place, we’re on like a Donkey Kong come Sunday!

 

[Billpopy79]

how many mL If milk is too much?

Any ml of milk is too much, coffee should be black.
Not to mention milk is baby cow juice.
You don't want to steel the poor little baby cows juice do you?

And what sort of freak weighs an empty kettle

Sunday is a good choice, I don't know why it's a good choice but it is a good choice.

You do know what you are doing and it's all gonna be fine.

These plants will be more sophisticated,, they will be more like a 90s pornstars lady garden.
And we all know how they love to be smashed with a hose.

 

[Trala]

Calm down, calm down (done in my best fake Scouse accent)

So your plants have 35x35cm each.

These had 40cm width each 120cm wide tent and this photo was on the day I flipped.

Hey Bill why do you think my plants are so short? They just don’t seem to be getting taller.

Yours look so tall and proud.

p.s. I’ll let you know about the bud clonestars. That was more good luck than good management. When I decided to get a tent it was autumn and of course every friends plants were all ready in full bloom, (I say “every friend“ like I know millions of growers, when in fact it is two people). Covid hit so I couldn’t drive to the friend I really wanted to snip from, so I had to make do and ask a friend close by who grows messily in the ground.

 

[Trala]

Any ml of milk is too much, coffee should be black.
Not to mention milk is baby cow juice.
You don't want to steel the poor little baby cows juice do you?

I knew you were just too damned perfect, you’re a gluten free vegan aren’t you?! AREN‘T YOUUUUU?!

And what sort of freak weighs an empty kettle

A freak that respects the power of maths.

LOLLINGGG!

Sunday is a good choice, I don't know why it's a good choice but it is a good choice.

You do know what you are doing and it's all gonna be fine.

These plants will be more sophisticated,, they will be more like a 90s pornstars lady garden.
And we all know how they love to be smashed with a hose.

I hope so.

OMG imagine if @013 and I never had the “don‘t touch when sleeping” talk? I would literally have made their sleep time 6pm-6am so I could tend to them during daylight hours! Then sobbed when they all hermed. Do you think I could have broken them with my sleep time prodding? In the back of my mind I still worry.

 

[Billpopy79]

Hey Bill why do you think my plants are so short? They just don’t seem to be getting taller.

Yours look so tall and proud.

p.s. I’ll let you know about the bud clonestars. That was more good luck than good management. When I decided to get a tent it was autumn and of course every friends plants were all ready in full bloom, (I say “every friend“ like I know millions of growers, when in fact it is two people). Covid hit so I couldn’t drive to the friend I really wanted to snip from, so I had to make do and ask a friend close by who grows messily in the ground.

Could be many things.
Genetics mainly, some plants just grow short and stout.
Training them also keeps them shorter, even light can play a part in their height.

Whatever you do don't address your height concerns with them, you will give them a complex.

Honestly once you flip them they will double if not triple in height.

Damn you covid!
I'm just interested as I've not grown clones before, I'd like to take some clones off a flowering plant and see what happens.

knew you were just too damned perfect, you’re a gluten free vegan aren’t you?! AREN‘T YOUUUUU?!

They don't call me Gareth for nothing

 

[Trala]

Could be many things.
Genetics mainly, some plants just grow short and stout.
Training them also keeps them shorter, even light can play a part in their height.

Whatever you do don't address your height concerns with them, you will give them a complex.

Honestly once you flip them they will double if not triple in height.

The plants I grew outside were from the same seed batch. I initially thought they were off the herm, but my partner reminded me once discovering it was a herm, we carefully binned it. Side story: In hindsight the first plant I grew - who has become my sperm doner - was an absolute male who I was determined to see as a female. It had seeds all through it. Rather than admit to myself I couldn’t tell the difference between a cock and a minge, I decided it had to be herm. After looking at pics here it was 100% boy.

Back to my original story, my semi successful outdoor plants were from the same seed doner and they grew to be 5-6 foot high. I just worry I’m doing something wrong which has caused the stunted growth.

Look I’m not a bitch, I don’t tell them they are short and fat to their face, only behind their short fat backs.

They don't call me Gareth for nothing

L O L L I N G !

Literally nearly aspirated and had coffee dribble out my nose!

 

[Billpopy79]

The plants I grew outside were from the same seed batch. I initially thought they were off the herm, but my partner reminded me once discovering it was a herm, we carefully binned it. Side story: In hindsight the first plant I grew - who has become my sperm doner - was an absolute male who I was determined to see as a female. It had seeds all through it. Rather than admit to myself I couldn’t tell the difference between a cock and a minge, I decided it had to be herm. After looking at pics here it was 100% boy.

Back to my original story, my semi successful outdoor plants were from the same seed doner and they grew to be 5-6 foot high. I just worry I’m doing something wrong which has caused the stunted growth.

Look I’m not a bitch, I don’t tell them they are short and fat to their face, only behind their short fat backs.



L O L L I N G !

Literally nearly aspirated and had coffee dribble out my nose!

If your first plant had seeds it wasn't a male, either a female that got knocked up or a Herm.
Males don't have seeds just balls full of pollen.

Ok so they grew 5-6ft.
How long were they growing to get that tall and was that after flowering.
If you didn't train your plants and let them veg longer they would probably end up 5-6 foot tall.

You're worrying about nothing, they are fine, you want them pretty short, last thing you want is for them to stretch and out grow your tent.

 

[Trala]

If your first plant had seeds it wasn't a male, either a female that got knocked up or a Herm.
Males don't have seeds just balls full of pollen.

Ok so they grew 5-6ft.
How long were they growing to get that tall and was that after flowering.
If you didn't train your plants and let them veg longer they would probably end up 5-6 foot tall.

You're worrying about nothing, they are fine, you want them pretty short, last thing you want is for them to stretch and out grow your tent.

Oh I see!

I didn’t know that. It actually gives me comfort, because I swear it looked female. It looked to be forming buds. Then the horror of finding brown seeds in it.

Planted after the first full moon in September 2019 and got to that height by January, then they started to flower in maybe February. They didn’t get taller, just buds that got fatter. I picked it too early. I got paranoid due to the dodgy fence. I snapped off both I think you call it colas, like the angel point on a Christmas tree, because it grew tall enough to see through the dodgy fence. Picked too early in Feb and March.

Worrying about nothing is literally in my DNA. On the upside, worrying about this stops me worrying about other things.

 

[Trala]

While I have you, I had a plant that grew tiny beautiful cream orchid looking Flowers like on the stem. Would that have been a male? I binned it, but was never sure.

I have just realised I don’t think I know anything about sexing. It’s like I mentally invent a narrative and make it fact. I 100% until this moment believed male = seeds.

 

[Trala]

Desperation is never an attractive quality in a person and I really hate being so needy but...

I am super worried about flipping. I’m worried the clonestars look more mature than the seedstars. So is it okay to flip at the same time? I only have one tent, so should I keep the more immature in veg a bit longer and evict the clones to the cold outside, I just don’t know.

I have taken video so you can see them, as they truly are. This whole concept is so strange to me - ie controlling seasons with artificial lighting. My outdoor plants were so much bigger before bud. I promise if the consensus is still to flip Sunday, I’ll flip. I just want to be 100% sure, then I can find something else to obsessively worry about.

Oh and I took Twiggy to DEM, and they set her arm with a splint. They advised there is no guarantees it won’t become neurotic and need amputation though lollllling