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What a beautiful sight!
Overlook the Christmas mess.
Overlook the Christmas mess.
The Perpetual Healing Garden - SweetSue's Joyful Return
Freeze them suckers....................... I hate mites... Thats why I use new soil instead of working with a living soil on my indoor grows. I do reuse soil outdoors. A good freeze will kill them blood suckers, GL in the gardens,, Keepem Green
HARVEST: Carnival #2 - Day 143
A longer day than I'd anticipated. Those tiny plants I've been growing lately have spoiled me. Lol! Don't expect an update tonight. I'll get that tomorrow. One last look at her.
*contented sigh*
Beautifully done
Scottay
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Heyyyyy Sue! Lookin good my friend! Im so proud of you! Such an inspiration. You are awesome! Huggssss
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Drenches
The Carn1:1 and 1:2 clones got their second CATs today, and I decided to document the process. I find it helps to run over this on occassion. Too often we simply say "I drenched the plant" when that simple statement hides a lot of what goes on behind the scenes. Let me walk you through my process.
I start by preparing water. I don't have an RO system, and no plans to install one. Nor do I care to purchase RO water. My municipal water supply uses chloramines, which I nutralize by adding two drops of blackstrap molasses to each gallon of water, and let it sit for ten minutes before using. I typically mix up water before bed, in anticipation of needing it somewhere the next day. Water with molasses will only keep for a day or two before it begins to mold.
I toss two cups of prepared water into the bottom of each basin. Then I set up two cups for each plant, the one on the left has Tea added to water and left to steep, the one on the right is the same approach, done with the measured amount of drench.
I know how much water each plant will be able to take. In this case it'll be a quart of the drench and the 12 oz of the prepared Tea.
The drench gets added to the water, and it's topped off at a quart.
I begin with a circle of water around the stalk. My intent with a drench is to get every bit of it coaxed into the soil. I want there to be no runoff at all, if I can make that happen. This is more easily achieved if I take my time. Slowly and methodically I add half of the drench volume. Then I walk away and do something else for at least ten minutes.
Today it was to tend to the companion plant. She got half of her drench volume too.
Back to the original plant. This time I water in half of the prepared Tea
Returning to the other plant I do the same. Then I finish the drench on the original plant, do the same with the second, finish each off with the remaining Tea and leave them alone for another ten minutes.
Pretty flowers.
The last thing I do is add plain water, very slowly, until I get some runoff, and then I stop right there and return them to the tent. I don't typically leave them sit in the basins like this. I had to run out today and knew I wouldn't be back before their lights went off, so they were still soaking up the very last drops when I had to leave.
Drenches - SweetSue's way.
The Carn1:1 and 1:2 clones got their second CATs today, and I decided to document the process. I find it helps to run over this on occassion. Too often we simply say "I drenched the plant" when that simple statement hides a lot of what goes on behind the scenes. Let me walk you through my process.
I start by preparing water. I don't have an RO system, and no plans to install one. Nor do I care to purchase RO water. My municipal water supply uses chloramines, which I nutralize by adding two drops of blackstrap molasses to each gallon of water, and let it sit for ten minutes before using. I typically mix up water before bed, in anticipation of needing it somewhere the next day. Water with molasses will only keep for a day or two before it begins to mold.
I toss two cups of prepared water into the bottom of each basin. Then I set up two cups for each plant, the one on the left has Tea added to water and left to steep, the one on the right is the same approach, done with the measured amount of drench.
I know how much water each plant will be able to take. In this case it'll be a quart of the drench and the 12 oz of the prepared Tea.
The drench gets added to the water, and it's topped off at a quart.
I begin with a circle of water around the stalk. My intent with a drench is to get every bit of it coaxed into the soil. I want there to be no runoff at all, if I can make that happen. This is more easily achieved if I take my time. Slowly and methodically I add half of the drench volume. Then I walk away and do something else for at least ten minutes.
Today it was to tend to the companion plant. She got half of her drench volume too.
Back to the original plant. This time I water in half of the prepared Tea
Returning to the other plant I do the same. Then I finish the drench on the original plant, do the same with the second, finish each off with the remaining Tea and leave them alone for another ten minutes.
Pretty flowers.
The last thing I do is add plain water, very slowly, until I get some runoff, and then I stop right there and return them to the tent. I don't typically leave them sit in the basins like this. I had to run out today and knew I wouldn't be back before their lights went off, so they were still soaking up the very last drops when I had to leave.
Drenches - SweetSue's way.
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Heyyyyy Sue! Lookin good my friend! Im so proud of you! Such an inspiration. You are awesome! Huggssss
There you are my friend.
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I have mites. I have a balcony with temperatures in the low 20s. Would anyone like to speculate the minimum amount of time my plants would need to sit out there to kill the mites and their eggs?
This can be done tent by tent. I feel like I have a rare opportunity here. What do you guys think?
This can be done tent by tent. I feel like I have a rare opportunity here. What do you guys think?
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I found this on another cannabis site. It's from 2010. I have a coffee/conversation group to get to. When I get back I'll experiment.
alamony2005
Member
""The time from egg to adult depends on temperature
(Table 1) and to a lesser extent the stage of two-spotted mite
available. After hatching and mating, a female P. persimilis
takes 2 days at 20°C before she can lay eggs (pre-ovipositional
period) and then lays up to 4 eggs per day. She can lay
between 40 and 60 eggs in a life of 54 days at 20°C. At
20°C the time required for each juvenile stage is: egg, 3 days;
larva, 1.1 day; protonymph, 1.4 days; deutonymph, 1.6 days.
The optimum temperature range for egg laying is 17-28°C.
P. persimilis does not develop at temperatures below 7°C.
High mortality occurs when temperatures are in the mid to
upper 30s and when humidity is low""
https://www.crop.cri.nz/home/products...s/113-Mite.pdf This link doesn't work. No time to get to it right now
It is reasonable to assume death is imminent at anywhere lower than even 30F your temps of 0 or so are more then enough to spell death. They cannot hibernate in such conditions period. The eggs will not survive either. take them back inside, chop and process as you need.
alamony2005
Member
""The time from egg to adult depends on temperature
(Table 1) and to a lesser extent the stage of two-spotted mite
available. After hatching and mating, a female P. persimilis
takes 2 days at 20°C before she can lay eggs (pre-ovipositional
period) and then lays up to 4 eggs per day. She can lay
between 40 and 60 eggs in a life of 54 days at 20°C. At
20°C the time required for each juvenile stage is: egg, 3 days;
larva, 1.1 day; protonymph, 1.4 days; deutonymph, 1.6 days.
The optimum temperature range for egg laying is 17-28°C.
P. persimilis does not develop at temperatures below 7°C.
High mortality occurs when temperatures are in the mid to
upper 30s and when humidity is low""
https://www.crop.cri.nz/home/products...s/113-Mite.pdf This link doesn't work. No time to get to it right now
It is reasonable to assume death is imminent at anywhere lower than even 30F your temps of 0 or so are more then enough to spell death. They cannot hibernate in such conditions period. The eggs will not survive either. take them back inside, chop and process as you need.
GaBoy420
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Subbed . and sorry about the mites. Would the cold not hurt the plants? Even if only for a little while?
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Hello GaBoy420, and
to my joyful journal. My hope is to find a point where the mites die, but the plants aren't compromised. The water in the cells of the plant should be better insulated than that in the mites, so it should crystallize faster, causing mite mortality before plant cellular damage.
I put some leaves out for ten minutes, before I left. That stunned them, but I just checked them 90 minutes later and they're still moving in the bag. I'm putting them out for 15 minutes.
MagicJim
Creme de la Creme Photos: Sept 2016
I vote for not killing your plants with temperatures below freezing. Cell wall will burst and plants will die. I thought you had reached a compromise with the mites?
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They exploded overnight Jim. Compromise, not surrender.
15 minutes had no effect. I picked another leaf and set it out for 30 min. I think there should be a point where mite mortality precedes plant cell death. I'm hoping to find that point, but this is just to satisfy my curiosity. I'm going to methodically swab each leaf with 50/50 ISO while I keep playing with the leaves and freezing temps.
I was able to distract myself making brownies (the apartment smells yummy!) and with a neglected harvest.
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HARVEST: Train Wreck Auto (Day 59)
Not my best performer. I've decided it's poor root development, and that comes right back to me and my inability to keep up with the needs of the soil community. It's been quite the learning experience, one I feel most often that I've just begun and still lack some very basic understandings in. But I'm still moving forward with the expectation that I'm improving.
I'll discount what this tiny plant says about that improving comment.
Stunted plants are a joy we all share in.
She came down at day 59, one of the most indistinguishable plants to grow in my gardens.
If I'm real lucky, she'll give me about 3 grams dry. That'll be enough to decide if I want to try again or move on and let these seeds find a better home.
I've been giving thought to my search for a strain. We all set out in that direction, sampling as we go, in hopes of finding the ones that speak to us the deepest, satisfying the needs of our particular systems. As I've studied the endocannabinoid system I've begun to understand how the system will lead you to the strain it needs, if you listen closely to what your body is saying.
I believe I've found my strains. The Dark Devil Autos are high in Beta Caryophyllene, something I think my system is crying out for. This is the strain I'll reach for first every time, if it's available. It fits my system like a glove. The Carnival is my second choice, and often vies for that first choice. Having them both available at once will be bliss.
Carnival I can clone. I have seeds to start again, and once I do that the next time I'll be cloning her from that point on.
Rifleman can teach me how to make my own seed supply with the DDAs. I'm not there yet. Thankfully I have a quantity of seeds to play with until that future adventure can begin.
As for CBD strains, the Criticals have more than met the needs of my daughter and I, and I see no reason to explore beyond that. I've met the needs of our individual protocols, and I've determined that I don't grow for anyone else in this limited space. I grow for myself and my daughter. I'll help anyone who needs the guidance to grow their own, but my space is fully allotted.
Look at me, growing up.
All this has me rethinking how I'm growing, considering more efficient uses of the spaces. I'm also once again leaning strongly to switching the entire grow to Doc's HB system. This move offers the best produce with the least stress and simplifies my life. After two years of exploring the possibilities I have to accept that the best flowers I've consistently grown have been in that soil. Now I work out the smoothest flow from one space to the next to keep the garden in perpetual motion.
Have I mentioned how much fun I'm having with this process? Lol!
Some of my personal seed bank will need to find new homes. Waste not, want not.
2017 will be an interesting transitional year in my grow. I'll be starting the next journal on New Year's Day.
Not my best performer. I've decided it's poor root development, and that comes right back to me and my inability to keep up with the needs of the soil community. It's been quite the learning experience, one I feel most often that I've just begun and still lack some very basic understandings in. But I'm still moving forward with the expectation that I'm improving.
I'll discount what this tiny plant says about that improving comment.
Stunted plants are a joy we all share in. She came down at day 59, one of the most indistinguishable plants to grow in my gardens.
If I'm real lucky, she'll give me about 3 grams dry. That'll be enough to decide if I want to try again or move on and let these seeds find a better home.
I've been giving thought to my search for a strain. We all set out in that direction, sampling as we go, in hopes of finding the ones that speak to us the deepest, satisfying the needs of our particular systems. As I've studied the endocannabinoid system I've begun to understand how the system will lead you to the strain it needs, if you listen closely to what your body is saying.
I believe I've found my strains. The Dark Devil Autos are high in Beta Caryophyllene, something I think my system is crying out for. This is the strain I'll reach for first every time, if it's available. It fits my system like a glove. The Carnival is my second choice, and often vies for that first choice. Having them both available at once will be bliss.
Carnival I can clone. I have seeds to start again, and once I do that the next time I'll be cloning her from that point on. Rifleman can teach me how to make my own seed supply with the DDAs.
I'm not there yet. Thankfully I have a quantity of seeds to play with until that future adventure can begin. As for CBD strains, the Criticals have more than met the needs of my daughter and I, and I see no reason to explore beyond that. I've met the needs of our individual protocols, and I've determined that I don't grow for anyone else in this limited space. I grow for myself and my daughter. I'll help anyone who needs the guidance to grow their own, but my space is fully allotted.
Look at me, growing up.
All this has me rethinking how I'm growing, considering more efficient uses of the spaces. I'm also once again leaning strongly to switching the entire grow to Doc's HB system. This move offers the best produce with the least stress and simplifies my life. After two years of exploring the possibilities I have to accept that the best flowers I've consistently grown have been in that soil. Now I work out the smoothest flow from one space to the next to keep the garden in perpetual motion.
Have I mentioned how much fun I'm having with this process? Lol!
Some of my personal seed bank will need to find new homes. Waste not, want not.
2017 will be an interesting transitional year in my grow. I'll be starting the next journal on New Year's Day.
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You knew I had to try, right?
Carn1:2 spent 45 minutes in sub-freezing temps. No effect whatsoever on the mites.
This isn't the solution. If I left them out here longer that might work, but at the expense of the plants. Respiration had accelerated in the bag. Without the bag covering might also have been more effective, but at the expense of being stealthy.
I'm resolved to finishing these two out alone and then cleaning the entire tent before moving anything else in here. It looks like we have a couple weeks, tops.
Carn1:3 is the one on the right. She's in less soil, which probably explains the faster finish. Not much faster, from the looks of it, but a couple days ahead, to be sure.
Tasty fresh Carnival. Tempted yet Graytail?
Carn1:2 spent 45 minutes in sub-freezing temps. No effect whatsoever on the mites.
This isn't the solution. If I left them out here longer that might work, but at the expense of the plants. Respiration had accelerated in the bag. Without the bag covering might also have been more effective, but at the expense of being stealthy.
I'm resolved to finishing these two out alone and then cleaning the entire tent before moving anything else in here. It looks like we have a couple weeks, tops.
Carn1:3 is the one on the right. She's in less soil, which probably explains the faster finish. Not much faster, from the looks of it, but a couple days ahead, to be sure.
Tasty fresh Carnival.
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Soil I'm done with.
Need to find a way to dispose of this pile.
Need to find a way to dispose of this pile.
I see what you mean Sue.
I have the luxury of just dumping it behind my shed.
After enough time it becomes excellent to mix with any soil.
A pretty good money saver for me.
I have the luxury of just dumping it behind my shed.
After enough time it becomes excellent to mix with any soil.
A pretty good money saver for me.
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Made some brownies. The bud material was decarbed at 230 degrees for 90 minutes. I ground it all up. The Space Case grinder I won from our sponsor makes that soooooo much easier. Thank you for that guys.
I'm so spoiled by this dark bud.
Add the 2/3 cup of coconut oil and some liquid sunflower lecithin. I'll admit, I stopped measuring the lecithin. I have a general feel for how much is enough. I dribble it in until I know it's balanced to my preferences.
I turned away and a couple minutes later I looked back to find the undisturbed lecithin already working at emulsification. I left it go for a while just so I could watch in fascination.
After I bored of that game I went to work smashing the stems and blossoms into oblivion. Lol! Really, I'm only concerned with breaking up the stems more to keep from feeling like I'm eating twigs.
I keep going until I'm getting a uniform, quieter "crunch."
Into the roasting bag and into the oven for another hour, same 230 degrees.
From the oven to the freezer for an hour. Into the fridge overnight. The next morning it goes back into the oven on the lowest setting (on mine it's 170 F) until it goes liquid.
Watching the the lecithin last night prompted me to add the eggs first, to allow the naturally occurring lecithin in them continue the encapsulation I'm hoping for.
Following package directions the brownies get mixed and ready to bake. I bake at the suggested temperatures. I realize theoretically all of this extra time cooking the cannabis at these temperatures should make my end result less potent. I assure you, that's not what's happening. In fact, I'm finding the opposite to be true.
I had the first half brownie - all I had on hand this morning, hence the reason I only had a half - around 10 AM. I had this second half at 3:30. While I was eating that second piece I remember looking down to see if my feet were touching the floor. 
It's been an hour. Those of you smart enough to give this a try have a pretty good sense of how I'm feeling right now. The second wave is getting ready to hit. I can feel my cells beginning to vibrate, and my palms just started sweating.
About two hours from now I'll have a bite to eat and start the whole thing all over again. I'm not an isolated case. Ask yourself why you're not joining me in this adventure. Best high ever.
The bud material was decarbed at 230 degrees for 90 minutes. I ground it all up. The Space Case grinder I won from our sponsor makes that soooooo much easier. Thank you for that guys. I'm so spoiled by this dark bud.
Add the 2/3 cup of coconut oil and some liquid sunflower lecithin. I'll admit, I stopped measuring the lecithin. I have a general feel for how much is enough. I dribble it in until I know it's balanced to my preferences.
I turned away and a couple minutes later I looked back to find the undisturbed lecithin already working at emulsification. I left it go for a while just so I could watch in fascination.
After I bored of that game I went to work smashing the stems and blossoms into oblivion. Lol! Really, I'm only concerned with breaking up the stems more to keep from feeling like I'm eating twigs.
I keep going until I'm getting a uniform, quieter "crunch."
Into the roasting bag and into the oven for another hour, same 230 degrees.
From the oven to the freezer for an hour. Into the fridge overnight. The next morning it goes back into the oven on the lowest setting (on mine it's 170 F) until it goes liquid.
Watching the the lecithin last night prompted me to add the eggs first, to allow the naturally occurring lecithin in them continue the encapsulation I'm hoping for.
Following package directions the brownies get mixed and ready to bake. I bake at the suggested temperatures. I realize theoretically all of this extra time cooking the cannabis at these temperatures should make my end result less potent. I assure you, that's not what's happening. In fact, I'm finding the opposite to be true.
I had the first half brownie - all I had on hand this morning, hence the reason I only had a half
- around 10 AM. I had this second half at 3:30. While I was eating that second piece I remember looking down to see if my feet were touching the floor.
It's been an hour. Those of you smart enough to give this a try have a pretty good sense of how I'm feeling right now. The second wave is getting ready to hit. I can feel my cells beginning to vibrate, and my palms just started sweating.
About two hours from now I'll have a bite to eat and start the whole thing all over again. I'm not an isolated case. Ask yourself why you're not joining me in this adventure. Best high ever.
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I need to go to the store. Half a mile in each direction in the lower twenties and swiftly dropping. I'm layered up like a smart woman would and buzzed out of my mind. The cold makes this experience almost religious. Lol!
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It's a nice option Ditch. I do have a community garden down the street. I might get their permission to dump my pots near their plots, let worms have their way with reclaiming it.
That feels like the idea I was waiting on.
lexort420
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Don't you have some sort of mite treatment from SNS from your winnings? Btw i sent you a pm.