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Right on, man! I actually grow both Colombian & Mexican. So far they look like that.

Colo
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Mexi
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I'd like to know two things, when does Mexi finish outdoor approximately, and how well it tolerates high RH? Never grew either of them, but I'm looking forward to these buds as something unusual.
 
Hey Conradino! Here is a suggestion I do this because I am a weed grower and I find this to be interesting. If you know your plants genetic background search on line the annual weather stats for the plant you are growing. It's not only fun but really educational. If you are growing a Santa Marta Columbian check out the weather in the Santa Marta region. I used to get a lot of Mexican weed back in the 70's from Michoacán region of Mexico. I know it came from there because back then I knew 2 brothers from Indiana that every year would drive all the way down there in an old Chevy van. They would come back on fumes having spent all of their money on weed and illegal fireworks. ( I mean if you are going to make the trip you might as well go for broke ) They were our local heros!! News would fly through town when they were back. The weed would be bricked and wrapped in the same red paper that the fireworks were wrapped in. I grew out lots of that seed.
It did really well in Indiana and Southern Illinois. Climate wise, we were in the same ball park, a little warmer. But we were much more rainy and humid. The plants ate that up! Best of luck in all you grow my friend!
 
Sounds good to me, uptheholler. This Jarillo de Sinaloa is supposed to be similar to Michoacan, and they say it's a quick finisher.
 
Hey Folks! I wanted to take a moment to discuss fertilization and timing. Yesterday I responded to a blog comment on another blog concerning my view of fertilization and nutrient sources. My point was that your plants don't really know, nor, do they care the source of their nutrients. ( Organic or chemical ) My point was that what is important is if the nutrients are available to the plants when they need it.

Timing of fertilizer applications are much more important than what you apply. I like to slightly water stress my plants, then water heavily, then make my application, then water again. Each of these steps are made about a day or two apart. Lo and behold I had to run into town yesterday, and what do I see but 2 separate farmers in their fields doing exactly what I just explained. Why? Because over the years we know it works. Here's what they were doing and it's all about timing.

These fields were planted about May 5th. After planting we had a short period of warm weather with some rain and the corn came up. Then we had had two weeks of alternating hot (80's) and cooler (50's & 60's) weather with no rain. This was the dry stress period. The young corn plants begin sending out roots searching for water. Water, water I gotta have water! Then night before last, we got a good soaker. This is the " give them a good drink" step. What this does is get to the plant to aggressively start taking in water. You know they start taking a big drink! The farmers yesterday had cultivators with big fertilizer tanks on and were cultivating and side dressing their corn crop with a nice pop of nutrients. Last night we got another good shower. This is my last water it in step. This thoroughly disperses the fertilizer and again since the plant is still in that very active uptake period since the first watering it literally gulps it down!!

Holler you are one wordy son of a gun! I know... I know... but I wanted to give you a better understanding of again why timing is everything when it comes to getting the most bang for your fertilizer buck! I also wanted to give you a real world understanding of how just by being observant you can learn and apply what is proven with common crops to your weed grow! I promise that I could go back today and see noticeable result from what those boys did yesterday. As always, best of luck in all that you grow!
 
uptheholler2 said:
Hey Folks! I wanted to take a moment to discuss fertilization and timing. Yesterday I responded to a blog comment on another blog concerning my view of fertilization and nutrient sources. My point was that your plants don't really know, nor, do they care the source of their nutrients. ( Organic or chemical ) My point was that what is important is if the nutrients are available to the plants when they need it.

Timing of fertilizer applications are much more important than what you apply. I like to slightly water stress my plants, then water heavily, then make my application, then water again. Each of these steps are made about a day or two apart. Lo and behold I had to run into town yesterday, and what do I see but 2 separate farmers in their fields doing exactly what I just explained. Why? Because over the years we know it works. Here's what they were doing and it's all about timing.

These fields were planted about May 5th. After planting we had a short period of warm weather with some rain and the corn came up. Then we had had two weeks of alternating hot (80's) and cooler (50's & 60's) weather with no rain. This was the dry stress period. The young corn plants begin sending out roots searching for water. Water, water I gotta have water! Then night before last, we got a good soaker. This is the " give them a good drink" step. What this does is get to the plant to aggressively start taking in water. You know they start taking a big drink! The farmers yesterday had cultivators with big fertilizer tanks on and were cultivating and side dressing their corn crop with a nice pop of nutrients. Last night we got another good shower. This is my last water it in step. This thoroughly disperses the fertilizer and again since the plant is still in that very active uptake period since the first watering it literally gulps it down!!

Holler you are one wordy son of a gun! I know... I know... but I wanted to give you a better understanding of again why timing is everything when it comes to getting the most bang for your fertilizer buck! I also wanted to give you a real world understanding of how just by being observant you can learn and apply what is proven with common crops to your weed grow! I promise that I could go back today and see noticeable result from what those boys did yesterday. As always, best of luck in all that you grow!
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Thanks buddy, appreciate your comments and enjoy the free education. Thank you!!
 
Hey Triple M! I'm so happy to have you up on the Bump with us this morning! On a side note I just came in from doing a pest patrol.
Here in Appalachia ( So I would be on the look out any where from the midwest to the mid south and even the eastern U.S.) I am noticing a substantial jump in leaf hopper populations. Usually these do not do a lot of plant damage except in high populations. I am also seeing spittlebug populations becoming very apparent on a lot of plants. Especially blackberries and raspberries also I just noticed some on watermelon and muskmelons. These do attack pot as well and can substantially decrease the vigor of the effected plant. So I thought that I would just pass on these observations as well.

Thanks for your kind words!
 
Well....... I had an interesting thing occur last evening. I was outside in the barn lot putting some equipment away before a storm. I happened to look down by the pond and I saw 2 does come flying out of the holler and over the dam to the pond like they were scared to death. I blew the alarm call of a buck at them and they froze but kept looking at the woods. That got me curious, so I decided to slip down the side of the ridge and sit. I wasn't there 15 minutes when I caught sight of them. 2 twenty somethings walking along the edge of my ridge acrossed from me. I would of had a hard time seeing them if one of them hadn't taken off his camo shirt because he got hot climbing my hills and he was wearing a red t shirt! Also they kind of were towards the top of the ridge where it was brighter.

I don't have plants in that area but I decided to yell at them just to let them know I had seen them. I yelled, " Hey Boys! What are you doing over on me?" They froze and ducked down!! Now those boys aren't blessed with an over abundance of smarts. I yelled ,' Hey!' again and they bolted to the top of the ridge. So what did this teach us?

- First...if you are going to trespass ...don't get caught.
-Secondly they should have just waved at me and said that they were lost and asked how to get out. I wouldn't have believed them but it would have been better than doing what they did.
-Don't bust deer when you are in the woods move slowly and if you spook them freeze until they calm and mosey off. Deer don't run like that unless coyotes or dogs or something is after them. It made me suspicious.

Now I have a very distasteful job to do. I have to go out a track where they went this morning after the rains. If they planted weed on me I have to grub it out. I have my own thing going on and I can't risk them screwing up and getting their weed spotted or have them not pull a male if they have one. It's also possible they were scouting out my ginseng. Still Ithought it was a story worth passing on. Best of luck in all you grow
 
Good spotting Up. I bet you've done a lot of hunting.

When I was a mere lad, about forty years ago, I used to work for a guy who had several guerilla grows in Northern California. At the time I lived in San Francisco and his grows were in the Medicino Nat'l Forrest just east of Humbolt. This was back in the day before the Mexican Mafia's got involved in growing, and we treated the land with the respect it deserved.

The owner was a Viet Nam vet - forward recon. He was, by all accounts, a certified bad-ass. He didn't act all bad, but he was - ya know? He taught me a lot about survival in the woods; evasion, concealment, survival, etc. One of the things he taught me was to watch the behavior of animals. They are an early warning system. A flock of birds spooked up and squawking ... why? How far did they go? Are they circling or flying straight away? Deer running scared, looking over their shoulder? A skunk out in daylight? Either rabid, or flushed out.

It served me well one day. I got an early warning when a small herd of does ran through my garden (of over 1000 plants) in a very remote area (half days march from nearest pavement). I mean they ran THROUGH the garden. Didn't even look at me - didn't care. Full on stampede.

I back tracked them and got to high ground and saw about a mile away where a helicopter had landed and men in military garb were assembling. I knew it was an assault on my spot, and knew they would surround and then come in. I got enough warning from those deer to get the fuck out of there fast, and never got caught. The skills the boss taught me saved me; evading the dogs, finding water and getting to my stash of emergency food -- it took me three days to evade and get out to where I could make a phone call and get clean away, but I did it. I was beaten up, scratched up, dirty, bug bitten and hungry - but I wasn't in jail either. And back then, it would have been good for AT LEAST five years as a guest of the state.

Google "Mendo Joe". He was a great guy, bred some great skunk strains (could smell that shit for MILES). I was just a kid, but what an education.

~ Auggie ~
 
Man that was a good story, wasn't it :thumb:

Is Mendo Joe the same grower/breeder as Mendocino Joe from Trinity who came up with Skunk# x Afghani bx-1, a legendary line of skunk, who later moved to Vancouver and basically gave away all the old school Cali genetics to Canadians? :tokin: They called him Romulan Joe there cause he actually created Romulan? Man he was legendary! :lot-o-toke::thedoubletake: Then he also bred Island Sweet Skunk and Golden Triangle Thai I think. This story was definitely on the spot man :lot-o-toke::thanks:
 
both stories were good reads me I just sit here and watch out the window for wood chucks they are over populated and a threat to my cucumbers and other stuff I can only use a 22cal pellet gun to reduce this problem I have one trap and they know it now Think I have took out 6 so far
 
Auggie thanks for the story. It's absolutely a fact... animals tells me how close the rain is...when to start my tomato and pot plants... if I am alone in the woods and how close anyone might be. You are blessed to have a person willing to take the time to show you what millions of people miss every day. I was blessed to have a Grandpa who was an old time outdoorsman and my Dad who was a botanical genius. Old time guys like my Grandpa hunted and trapped to help their families survive. Shells were expensive and every shot had to count. I have to admit there are times when I am glad that I live in an illegal state. I kind of like the challenge of bringing in my harvest from the hills. It's like an annual survival game. When I was young I was cocky in the woods. It was my kingdom. I used to say that there wasn't a sheriff or dog born who could catch me on my home turf. Now days I have to be smarter because I'm starting to get mountaineer knees and they aren't what they used to be.

Hey Conradino and Big fisher! Ground hogs are my mortal enemies! I am an obsessive ground hog killer. I don't hunt them I kill them and anyone that trys to tell me that that is wrong can take a hike. I will sit for hours with rifle and pipe in hand waiting for one to just show me even the top of his head. They are God's way of letting you know that things don't always go as planned. Hey Conradino you are quite the font of cool insight it is quite a pleasure to learn from you! Reps my Brother!
 
Thx for the repz, a guerilla bush for you :high-five:

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I can actually tolerate a stretchier sativa but it's not all about size especially when you're looking for a great keeper. This is a new cross I got from my buddy who lives in SoCal. It's a real mix of genetics: Aurora Ultra (OG Kush x MK Ultra/Aurora Indica) x NYCD/Chemdawg '91. I'm glad you enjoyed it :tokin:
 
Yes, Conrad - - same guy. He was a great guy to work for. Nicest guy you'd ever wanna meat, until he wasn't ... then you didn't want to be in the area code. Good thing about it was that - it was up to you which Joe ya got. You really didn't want to fuck with this guy, ya know? I was just a kid, prolly 20 or so - city borned and bred and didn't know a damn thing about outdoors except that it was big. I had some experience growing, but learned that I didn't know chit. Joe started me out as a 'mule'. I was hired originally to pack supplies in to a grow site before it got started. On my back I would haul sacks of chicken shit, and pesticides to the site. Then I'd work at harvest, clean up the site, prep for next year, and trim. After a couple of years he 'gave' me my own grow site to manage. I did that for four years till the one I was on got raided - then he retired me. The cops knew it was me ... just couldn't prove it.

And, I kind of like it illegal too. Kind of like moonshiners in your neck of the woods, I am an old timer gorilla grower. And, ya know, if they want to go to all the trouble to catch me, try me, and find a jury willing to put this dangerous criminal behind bars for years, well, fuck em, go ahead. Juries in my county haven't sent someone to jail for MJ in years. The DA can't BUY an MJ conviction here. So, I'll take my chances.

But, yea, my 62 year old bonz won't take that kind of shagging any more either. Getting away from that bust took everything I had and that was 40 years ago; came out weak and hurt. Made the call to Joe and he sent someone to pick me up. Spent three days in a nice motel room in Fort Bragg with a pretty girl who 'nursed' me back to health. -__-

Joe was amazed to hear from me after three days, thought the cops had killed me or something ... LoL. Couldn't come close to doing that now. Walking in a stream, setting out false trails, hunkering down in hidey holes and hearing the search all around me. Moving only at night. Little water, no food. But, I still got the skills. Old age sucks. My brain isn't old, but my body fails me often. Pisses me off too. Now I'm just 'the old guy with lots of good stories'. And that's ok too - - kids need to know history from the perspective of those that were there.

~ Auggie ~
 
I think it's the best part of this thread that I get to here these stories and I can connect dots :tokin:
 
Auggie Great stuff there! I've been part of one successful 1000 plant grow back in about 79. Anyway you look at it that kind of grow is flat out work. But as we always say here on the farm ," It's a good kind of tired!"

I wanted to let you all know some of the early results of my Fun With Autos grow. If you remember I purposely cut off the stem of a newly germinated Berry Ryder. It was cut just below where the stem turns white as the root beigns. My supposition was that like a normal plant when you mess up and do this you can still salvage the seedling it will grow but just be retarded in growth. This Berry Ryder has done the very same thing. It is running about 2 weeks behind the other 2 control plants but it appears to be in the same ballpark as far as yield is concerned. Really quite impressive. These plants germinated around the 26th through 29th of April and should finish up around July 4-8.

Now on a related note I had an Auto Candy Kush that has had a rough life. The plant was stressed from excessive heat and abnormally cool weather. During an early season cold spell all of the plants were brought back into the barn and put under 1000 watt light. All the plants were about 2 weeks old at the time. Then the weather turned abnormally hot and sunny. I decided that because I was busy getting tomatoes and melons in the ground that I would move all the plants outside and just let them fend for themselves. I messed up and forgot 1 Candy Kush plant who then endured 3 days of very hot temps in the barn under lights but with no ventilation or fans on. What can I say?? I messed up! I thought that I had taken everything out and turned off the switch! So I had an opportunity to see what I could learn from my mistake.

I nursed the youngster and set her out. On her first night out in the hills a squirrel dug her up roots and all. Ok... I replanted her and moved her. 2 days later he did it again. I replanted her again and moved her to her new location. She is stunted but I have to say that I am amazed that she is about 10 inches tall with one central bud from bottom to top. I would say that she still is going to try and turn out 4-7 grams which to my mind is amazing considering what she's been through. I guess the bottom line is what my Hort.101 prof used to say, " Everything in nature wants to live and reproduce or none of the things that we are going to learn about would be possible." I know this much Auto plants are a lot more forgiving and tougher than people give them credit for.
 
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