The Mega Crop Thread

732002 said:
Day 16 and we have thrips. Treating with hot shot pest strips. Further study and Spinosad in captain jacks dead bug may have been better choice? I was slow to catch this due to inexperience. Last feed 2G may jump to 4G then 6G.
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the hot shot will knock them out in 14 - 21 days.

it destroys fliers faster than movers, but will kill anything mating right now, and clips anything else before they can get to that stage. hang it above the plant. it is death from above. not below like you have placed it. they are safest to use if you vent direct to outdoor. otherwise limit use to hours when the fewest number of people are around. 8 - 12 hrs a day will wipe them right out. don't need 24 to be effective.

if you have house plants they likely came from there.


combine the pest strip with any other treatment, neem, lemon juice, iso, etc, for deadlier results.
any treatment takes a minimum of 14 days - life cycle length
 
bluter said:
the hot shot will knock them out in 14 - 21 days.

it destroys fliers faster than movers, but will kill anything mating right now, and clips anything else before they can get to that stage. hang it above the plant. it is death from above. not below like you have placed it. they are safest to use if you vent direct to outdoor. otherwise limit use to hours when the fewest number of people are around. 8 - 12 hrs a day will wipe them right out. don't need 24 to be effective.

if you have house plants they likely came from there.


combine the pest strip with any other treatment, neem, lemon juice, iso, etc, for deadlier results.
any treatment takes a minimum of 14 days - life cycle length
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Thanks, I did hang it up, Hot Shot is not recommended for living space. Garage and attic are OK.
I'm in the garage.
Found a dead flier, can't find crawlers so maybe I'm good. Hope this didn't stunt my auto.
 
Hydroholic said:
I in turn haven’t had great luck with premixed soil. I get better growth when I started with a blank slate with just MC. I tried Ocean Forest on my first soil grow and my plants grew good for a month before I added any nutrients. I’m a little more of a control freak about knowing what is going in the soil. I’m not sure how long that bag has been in the store and if the soil is still good. I go back to I would wash it out and start with 1gm because I want to get fairly consistent results each time. 100 different growers 10000 different styles. Find what works for you.
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Yes, good point. Starting from scratch certainly eliminates the unknowns. Think the next grow will be just perlite and Pro-Mix HP and MC and see how well it does. Not sure if flushing the Ocean Forest will do much, as if I recall a lot of the "ingredients" are meals and minerals.
 
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Look at the praying to the light from the girls in the back of this choir.
 
West Hippie said:
Last night had to take my Yorkie to vet . Was watering mama’s ivy’s with the spent water and it ran to the drain in the garage when I watered to run off . Checked the cameras this morning and She had licked the runoff a little tooo much . Got her to the vet and they said she had been poisoned and we didn’t know what till this morning. Thank goodness she’ll be fine ! Just wanted to pass this along , must be tastie mixed with water because she was lapping it up !
CO2 I use the bottle off my keg dispenser !
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West Hippie sorry to hear about your pup. Glad she is O:K.:passitleft:
 
6th week since flipping to 12/12 in Promix HP fed GH nutes until 2 weeks ago when I switched to MC to trial run it. She is a Blue Dream Sativa plant whose given me trouble from the start and been a very slow grower but has been deficiency free for last 6 weeks. Fed 5g, 5.5, 6 and last feed yesterday was 6.5grams per gallon using tap water. I believe I have v2 or v3 MC, I just ordered the sample bag a few weeks ago.

Calcium or magnesium? Add in some Calimagic?

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Checked this morning and it is now present on another leaf, also at the top of the plant. Ill continue feeding at 6.5g Megacrop and monitor.
 
So I've seen references on this board about how Megacrop is chelated and thus PH adjustments not required. I've run across chelated products before because my other hobby besides growing weed is bodybuilding and powerliftiNg and I've seen vitamins and supplements chelated which companies have touted an increase their absorption and bioavailability.

I found a good and understandable article on chelated fertilizers, it isn't a scientific study but it breaks down the reason, process and benefits of chelated fertiziliers.

HS1208/HS1208: Understanding and Applying Chelated Fertilizers Effectively Based on Soil pH

What I get after reading this article is the chelation process allows the micronutrients in the fertilizer to become more absorbable and available to the plant by being a shuttle to get them into the roots or stomata if used as a foliar. I don’t think this means that it isn’t a salt based product but that more of it is absorbable and at higher PH range. What it might mean is that less of the product is left over in the medium to buildup because of this. It also means that if the PH of your medium is above 6.5 a chelated fertilizer will help ensure the micronutrients are still used outside of the optimal range. I don't see any references specifically to the PH of the water or nutrients though.

Anyone else care to take a swing at it?
 
FelipeBlu said:
MegaCrop is a little different - it uses amino acid chelation.
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Again, bodybuilding background - amino acids are the building blocks of protein. So amino acids are attached to minerals such as magnesium in order to help shuttle them into the plant. I think it is the same thing we are talking about?

I believe to break it down to bare bones chelation is very simply the process of bonding ions and minerals together to increase availability.

Like using a bank teller friend to sneak you into a bank.
 
DeeCee112 said:
So I've seen references on this board about how Megacrop is chelated and thus PH adjustments not required. I've run across chelated products before because my other hobby besides growing weed is bodybuilding and powerliftiNg and I've seen vitamins and supplements chelated which companies have touted an increase their absorption and bioavailability.

I found a good and understandable article on chelated fertilizers, it isn't a scientific study but it breaks down the reason, process and benefits of chelated fertiziliers.

HS1208/HS1208: Understanding and Applying Chelated Fertilizers Effectively Based on Soil pH

What I get after reading this article is the chelation process allows the micronutrients in the fertilizer to become more absorbable and available to the plant by being a shuttle to get them into the roots or stomata if used as a foliar. I don’t think this means that it isn’t a salt based product but that more of it is absorbable and at higher PH range. What it might mean is that less of the product is left over in the medium to buildup because of this. It also means that if the PH of your medium is above 6.5 a chelated fertilizer will help ensure the micronutrients are still used outside of the optimal range. I don't see any references specifically to the PH of the water or nutrients though.

Anyone else care to take a swing at it?
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My understanding is that the plants can use both the minerals and the amino acids used to chelate them. Because of this, it is closer to an organic grow, and there are no salts left in the root zone. At least one of the of the folks here normally grows organically, but is trying Mega Crop and is well pleased with the results.
 
I don't see how being or not being organic has anything to do with it personally. If you took a bottle of GH Bloom and added an amino acids to bind to the nutrients in it would that make it more organic?

just spitballing here
 
I should reiterate though to your point of less salts - as I threw out in the original post I can see how the chelation process to the minerals in Megacrop allows the plants to better absorb them would leave behind less unabsorbable salt, or for those who don’t believe it is salt - ions. I don’t know enough about this theory, or growing to really stand behind it though.
 
BooMtoLate said:


I use RO water, so kinda just winging it.


Old Salt said:
We all do. Each and every grow we watch our plants and try keep them happy.
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well,, if you are referring to r.o. water, we all do,,,

well, i don't.

am i bad?? doomed to failure??

oh geez,,:straightface:
 
It meets my criteria of being easy to use, low cost, and good for the plants. Beyond that, at this point I'm unconcerned with the theory behind it. It's the same mentality that most folks that drive have. They don't know how an internal combustion engine works, just that it does.
 
nivek said:
BooMtoLate said:


I use RO water, so kinda just winging it.




well,, if you are referring to r.o. water, we all do,,,

well, i don't.

am i bad?? doomed to failure??

oh geez,,:straightface:
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Not the RO water - winging it!
 
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