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The Joy Of Growing - SweetSue Goes Perpetual
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Tiny Pot Drenches: SweetSue's Step-by-Step
Start by gathering the supplies.
- bucket and 2 solo cups
- syringes, measuring cups
- drench ingredients
- plant
- water
If I'm working with small foliars or drenches for the tiny pots I use the syringes because I'm using such small amounts. The 7 gallon pots I measure with the cup. It's sloppier to use the cup, my only real complaint. The bottles don't pour without having drips and runs. From a woman's perspective, yuk! What a waste. I try to use the syringes as much as possible.
These are 16 oz cups and I fill both to this line. This is just about the perfect amount for my tiny pots. i'm sure I could find a singular container to mix this in, but this is the way it's evolved for me. I find it interesting how we each develop our own little systems to get to the same ends.
I measure out the drench. There're guidelines on drenches and I tend to fall on the lighter side of application. These are 0.5 cc syringes, they hold 0.5 ml. My tiny pots don't even hold a half gallon of soil. I use just under half of what's recommended for a gallon. My drenches for the tiny pots tend to be in the range of around 0.5 ml of the primary drench, 0.01 of Tea and a tiny squirt of Transplant, if it's not already included in the primary drench. There's really more freedom with the drench ratios than you realize going in. It's one of those things each cultivator has to work out themselves. There are "guidelines". I kept trying to make them "rules".
Haha! Graytail was very patient. Start off a bit lighter. You'll find the place where you and your plants are happy. This is difficult to explain, but there's a hum that begins to happen between you and a happy plant. Listen for that hum. It requires you to relax. There's a life lesson there somewhere. 
Today, I determined that the Bag Seed plant needed an additional amount of the Growth Energy (determined strictly by being next to the plant) so I increased it by another 0.025 ml. Knowing your plant is your responsibility.
Aside: As I narrate this I keep thinking of my favorite Mountain Man, Cajuncelt, working in a commercial cannabis operation in Colorado. I keep imagining the disparities between the hobby grow and the realities of a commercial operation. It was the comment about knowing your plant. It was one of his earliest musings that the commercial enterprise has to be ruthless about the specimens held to grow. He's offered us a unique perspective into the commercial enterprise and it's interesting to watch some of the bleed-over between the two worlds. Just got lost there for a minute. Cajun's been on my mind a lot lately, for many reasons.
Back to our program: We were loading the syringe.
There's a trick to this: stick the needle down into the liquid, draw the plunger and wait. It's dense stuff and takes a moment to rise up to fill the tube.
Half goes into one cup.....
..... the other half in the other cup. I want the cups reasonably matched. I want the drench to be somewhat balanced from either direction of application.
Immediately upon use, the bottle gets capped and put back in its spot with its syringe in its spot next to it. If it's capped and put away I can't knock it over.
When the bottles get low you need to keep them tipped to get the syringe to load properly. Sitting it on the cap works perfectly.
After all the ingredients have been added to the water one cup gets dumped in the bottom of the bucket and the plant gets set into that to wick from beneath.
I have a water bottle that I use to drizzle from above. I find it's easier to get into tight spaces with these little bottles. What doesn't fit into here gets added to the bucket. All of of this water is slowly applied to the top.
The bottle and cups are immediately washed and dried. The bottle gets turned upside down to drain and dry.
The plant gets about 20 minutes to soak up all it can. It usually takes almost all of what's been offered. You learn to judge how much water they need after a while. While you wait you take the time to admire the plant.
New Year's Bag Seed (Day 75)
This was particularly fine street drugs. Good enough that I immediately sequestered the seeds. It was our last New Year's. We had no idea how close to the end we were. He'd just survived open heart. We thought we'd bought five years. * Sigh * I saved these seeds to grow and smoke this with him next New Year's. It better be damn good or I'm gonna be so sad. It smells so unbelievably skunky and sweet together as to be almost sickeningly sweet. Absolutely yummy! It's growing big and fat and dense and showing no signs of a serious fade yet.
"O Canada..." It plays in my head the entire time I work at this bench. I have a special fondness for many of our Canadian members. I leave that there in your honor. I'm sure you knew that, but now we're certain that you do, aren't we?
Tipping gently from side-to-side to drain off the excess.
I give them 5 minutes or so to drip before going back into the tent.
That's how it's evolved for me. I found my brain wanted to do each one individually, so I never got into the habit Graytail has of mixing up a batch of Tea for general use or multiple drenches combined. I suppose if I were working in larger pots like he does, that may have been different. Most of mine were these small pots and this system worked well.
The system for larger pots is just larger soaking containers and measuring tools. The goals are the same: get the entire calculated drench for that plant into that root zone. Leave no area dry.
In the beginning it freaked me out. All that measuring and fussing. Now I do it without thinking about it, in the most casual way. I'm comfortable enough with the levels I'm offering and I know I won't hurt anything if I slip off one way or another.
Get the the calculations right for the amount of soil you're growing in. Learn your plant's water requirements. Soak the roots thoroughly. Get that water/drench ratio down so you eliminate waste. Do the drenches in rotation and don't forget to slip a TransWater drench in between the primary drenches. I made that mistake the first time and my plants weren't nearly as happy as they were this time.
Everything hinges on The Flip. It determines the CAT. Time it well.
I hope that helps someone else. I realize this is not the recommended way to grow with the Kit, but I think we need to accept the fact that DrZiggy and I will not be the only people tempted to try this approach with the Kit. I may well decide that it's a better method for the tiny pots and continue on with it. I'm certainly happy with my results in these tiny pots. This stuff kicks butt. It's definitely superior level smoke.
So for the next person tempted to try a tiny pot perpetual with the Kit so that you too can sample some of the best cannabis you'll smoke, that's how SweetSue pulls it off in her garden.
Start by gathering the supplies.
- bucket and 2 solo cups
- syringes, measuring cups
- drench ingredients
- plant
- water
If I'm working with small foliars or drenches for the tiny pots I use the syringes because I'm using such small amounts. The 7 gallon pots I measure with the cup. It's sloppier to use the cup, my only real complaint. The bottles don't pour without having drips and runs. From a woman's perspective, yuk! What a waste. I try to use the syringes as much as possible.
These are 16 oz cups and I fill both to this line. This is just about the perfect amount for my tiny pots. i'm sure I could find a singular container to mix this in, but this is the way it's evolved for me. I find it interesting how we each develop our own little systems to get to the same ends.
I measure out the drench. There're guidelines on drenches and I tend to fall on the lighter side of application. These are 0.5 cc syringes, they hold 0.5 ml. My tiny pots don't even hold a half gallon of soil. I use just under half of what's recommended for a gallon. My drenches for the tiny pots tend to be in the range of around 0.5 ml of the primary drench, 0.01 of Tea and a tiny squirt of Transplant, if it's not already included in the primary drench. There's really more freedom with the drench ratios than you realize going in. It's one of those things each cultivator has to work out themselves. There are "guidelines". I kept trying to make them "rules".
Haha! Graytail was very patient. Start off a bit lighter. You'll find the place where you and your plants are happy. This is difficult to explain, but there's a hum that begins to happen between you and a happy plant. Listen for that hum. It requires you to relax. There's a life lesson there somewhere. Today, I determined that the Bag Seed plant needed an additional amount of the Growth Energy (determined strictly by being next to the plant) so I increased it by another 0.025 ml. Knowing your plant is your responsibility.
Aside: As I narrate this I keep thinking of my favorite Mountain Man, Cajuncelt, working in a commercial cannabis operation in Colorado. I keep imagining the disparities between the hobby grow and the realities of a commercial operation. It was the comment about knowing your plant. It was one of his earliest musings that the commercial enterprise has to be ruthless about the specimens held to grow. He's offered us a unique perspective into the commercial enterprise and it's interesting to watch some of the bleed-over between the two worlds. Just got lost there for a minute. Cajun's been on my mind a lot lately, for many reasons.
Back to our program: We were loading the syringe.
There's a trick to this: stick the needle down into the liquid, draw the plunger and wait. It's dense stuff and takes a moment to rise up to fill the tube.
Half goes into one cup.....
..... the other half in the other cup. I want the cups reasonably matched. I want the drench to be somewhat balanced from either direction of application.
Immediately upon use, the bottle gets capped and put back in its spot with its syringe in its spot next to it. If it's capped and put away I can't knock it over.
When the bottles get low you need to keep them tipped to get the syringe to load properly. Sitting it on the cap works perfectly.
After all the ingredients have been added to the water one cup gets dumped in the bottom of the bucket and the plant gets set into that to wick from beneath.
I have a water bottle that I use to drizzle from above. I find it's easier to get into tight spaces with these little bottles. What doesn't fit into here gets added to the bucket. All of of this water is slowly applied to the top.
The bottle and cups are immediately washed and dried. The bottle gets turned upside down to drain and dry.
The plant gets about 20 minutes to soak up all it can. It usually takes almost all of what's been offered. You learn to judge how much water they need after a while. While you wait you take the time to admire the plant.
New Year's Bag Seed (Day 75)
This was particularly fine street drugs. Good enough that I immediately sequestered the seeds. It was our last New Year's. We had no idea how close to the end we were. He'd just survived open heart. We thought we'd bought five years. * Sigh * I saved these seeds to grow and smoke this with him next New Year's. It better be damn good or I'm gonna be so sad. It smells so unbelievably skunky and sweet together as to be almost sickeningly sweet. Absolutely yummy! It's growing big and fat and dense and showing no signs of a serious fade yet.
"O Canada..." It plays in my head the entire time I work at this bench. I have a special fondness for many of our Canadian members. I leave that there in your honor. I'm sure you knew that, but now we're certain that you do, aren't we?
Tipping gently from side-to-side to drain off the excess.
I give them 5 minutes or so to drip before going back into the tent.
That's how it's evolved for me. I found my brain wanted to do each one individually, so I never got into the habit Graytail has of mixing up a batch of Tea for general use or multiple drenches combined. I suppose if I were working in larger pots like he does, that may have been different. Most of mine were these small pots and this system worked well.
The system for larger pots is just larger soaking containers and measuring tools. The goals are the same: get the entire calculated drench for that plant into that root zone. Leave no area dry.
In the beginning it freaked me out. All that measuring and fussing. Now I do it without thinking about it, in the most casual way. I'm comfortable enough with the levels I'm offering and I know I won't hurt anything if I slip off one way or another.
Get the the calculations right for the amount of soil you're growing in. Learn your plant's water requirements. Soak the roots thoroughly. Get that water/drench ratio down so you eliminate waste. Do the drenches in rotation and don't forget to slip a TransWater drench in between the primary drenches. I made that mistake the first time and my plants weren't nearly as happy as they were this time.
Everything hinges on The Flip. It determines the CAT. Time it well.
I hope that helps someone else. I realize this is not the recommended way to grow with the Kit, but I think we need to accept the fact that DrZiggy and I will not be the only people tempted to try this approach with the Kit. I may well decide that it's a better method for the tiny pots and continue on with it. I'm certainly happy with my results in these tiny pots. This stuff kicks butt. It's definitely superior level smoke.
So for the next person tempted to try a tiny pot perpetual with the Kit so that you too can sample some of the best cannabis you'll smoke, that's how SweetSue pulls it off in her garden.
Happy Hemper
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Excellent tiny pot DBHBB tutorial Sue.
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I didn't even realize that!!
Wow! I don't know what to say. I'm just getting warmed up! 
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Great close up SweetSue
Thank you. It can be challenging to get the hands and the focus to work smoothly together.
Your 'street drugs' plant looks quite a lot like the Aurora Indica that The Roach grows, Sue.- Thread starter
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You're right about that Weaselcracker. I'll have to compare them. Thanks.
One of the true advantages of the tiny pot method is yield. DrZiggy got amazing sqft yields with his tiny pot swick! It's like the HB soil version of hempies. Some day I'm gonna try a batch.
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One of the true advantages of the tiny pot method is yield. DrZiggy got amazing sqft yields with his tiny pot swick! It's like the HB soil version of hempies. Some day I'm gonna try a batch.
I think once you try it you're going to probably always have a couple running off on a side for something different. Lots of potential here I'm just now beginning to realize. You could have a field day with this under your lights.
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Daily Update: Perpetual Tent & Tiny Closet - Week 13, Day 5
Sorry to be so late with this. The day just got away from me. I just finished Callanetics and I'm super pumped up, so this is a good time to wrap yesterday up.
Maintenance notes:
- the New Year's Bag Seed got a Growth Energy drench.
That was it today. Let's see what's left to cover, shall we?
Beginning in the Tiny Closet, Thunderpaws #1 (Day 30) I hope both of these turn out to be female. They're gorgeous specimens.
Thunderpaws #2 (Day 29)
One of the Auto Jock Horror x Auto Amnesia sprouts failed to thrive.
Thankfully, this one did and is now 3 days old.
Sweet, Sweet Smoke.
Dark Devil Auto (Day 15)
Into the tent, let's just take a glance around. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
This is the pot from Buddha Tahoe OG. I decided to plant something in it, but haven't decided what. Tomorrow I'll pick out a seed and get it soaking. I want to see if I can get them to run as tiny no-tills. Just an experiment.
The Bag Seed back in the designated spot.
Yes, I noticed how nasty it was looking there today. I did something about that.
Wasn't the purpose of my change in format to cut down on the length of the posts? I think I got off track today.
Keeping unorthodox hours can screw with your real-world time. I'm still learning the ropes in the art of unstructured living. I think it works better with more money. LOL!
Almost time to turn in so I can get back up and start again. I never know what I'll find when I unzip the tent.
See you then!
Sorry to be so late with this. The day just got away from me. I just finished Callanetics and I'm super pumped up, so this is a good time to wrap yesterday up.
Maintenance notes:
- the New Year's Bag Seed got a Growth Energy drench.
That was it today. Let's see what's left to cover, shall we?
Beginning in the Tiny Closet, Thunderpaws #1 (Day 30) I hope both of these turn out to be female. They're gorgeous specimens.
Thunderpaws #2 (Day 29)
One of the Auto Jock Horror x Auto Amnesia sprouts failed to thrive.
Thankfully, this one did and is now 3 days old.
Sweet, Sweet Smoke.
Dark Devil Auto (Day 15)
Into the tent, let's just take a glance around. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
This is the pot from Buddha Tahoe OG. I decided to plant something in it, but haven't decided what. Tomorrow I'll pick out a seed and get it soaking. I want to see if I can get them to run as tiny no-tills. Just an experiment.
The Bag Seed back in the designated spot.
Yes, I noticed how nasty it was looking there today. I did something about that.
Wasn't the purpose of my change in format to cut down on the length of the posts? I think I got off track today.
Keeping unorthodox hours can screw with your real-world time. I'm still learning the ropes in the art of unstructured living. I think it works better with more money. LOL!
Almost time to turn in so I can get back up and start again. I never know what I'll find when I unzip the tent.
See you then!
OMeWanCannabi
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Almost time to turn in so I can get back up and start again. I never know what I'll find when I unzip the tent.
See you then!
Oh, I think perhaps most of us have a pretty good idea of what you are likely to find in there.
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Strawberry Blue (Day 76)
She's telling me she's getting tired. I'm giving her another week and then reevaluate.
She's telling me she's getting tired. I'm giving her another week and then reevaluate.
OMeWanCannabi
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Strawberry Blue (Day 76)
Mmmm mmmm! Hard to restrain myself from licking the screen; she looks so delicious.
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Do We Call This Pistil Set?????
The canopy view.
My favorite - under the canopy, watching the branches rise. I never get tired of this view.
Let me start the day off with an expectation that your day will mirror mine in joyful expression. At some point here I'll get some sleep and then it's out and about and I intend to spread joy all over. This feels like a labyrinth day. I haven't been out for a walk in quite a while. There's not much at all needs done with the plants, so this would be a good day for an extended walk. But only after I get some sleep. Which I will attempt to do right now. Cross the fingers and toes.
I caught a glimpse of Venus this morning. What a wonderful Universe we inhabit.
The canopy view.
My favorite - under the canopy, watching the branches rise. I never get tired of this view.
Let me start the day off with an expectation that your day will mirror mine in joyful expression. At some point here I'll get some sleep and then it's out and about and I intend to spread joy all over. This feels like a labyrinth day. I haven't been out for a walk in quite a while. There's not much at all needs done with the plants, so this would be a good day for an extended walk. But only after I get some sleep. Which I will attempt to do right now. Cross the fingers and toes.
I caught a glimpse of Venus this morning. What a wonderful Universe we inhabit.
Highpotanoose
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Do We Call This Pistil Set?????
The canopy view.
My favorite - under the canopy, watching the branches rise. I never get tired of this view.
Let me start the day off with an expectation that your day will mirror mine in joyful expression. At some point here I'll get some sleep and then it's out and about and I intend to spread joy all over. This feels like a labyrinth day. I haven't been out for a walk in quite a while. There's not much at all needs done with the plants, so this would be a good day for an extended walk. But only after I get some sleep. Which I will attempt to do right now. Cross the fingers and toes.
I caught a glimpse of Venus this morning. What a wonderful Universe we inhabit.
Nice pics sue
Nice fat cola on the left in that last pic.
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Nice pics sue
Nice fat cola on the left in that last pic.
That's the New Year's Bag Seed Highpotanoose. It's gonna be fun to watch that one get fatter. Smells better than it looks too.
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Carnival's a camera hog. LOL!
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Daily Drenches: Unknown Seed (Day 57)
It was time for her next Trans/Tea drench. She's starting to build flowers. Such an interesting plant. Colorful as all get out. I hope these buds swell significantly. I want to need a support system because the branches are sooooo dense that they can't hold themselves up. Yep! That's what I'm hopin' for.
She still has lots of time to build. Yummy smell, sticky as she can be, sweet taste left on the fingertips every time you touch her. Mmmmmmmm
It was time for her next Trans/Tea drench. She's starting to build flowers. Such an interesting plant. Colorful as all get out. I hope these buds swell significantly. I want to need a support system because the branches are sooooo dense that they can't hold themselves up. Yep! That's what I'm hopin' for.
She still has lots of time to build. Yummy smell, sticky as she can be, sweet taste left on the fingertips every time you touch her. Mmmmmmmm