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They start out so nice, then we screw them up.
Then we have to live with them.
Damn... it's just like raising children.
Then we have to live with them.
Damn... it's just like raising children.
Kriaze
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Hey Weaselcracker, if you want a cheap DIY grey card you would just need to make sure that it's perfectly neutral and non reflective. Some cameras will allow you to set the white balance with a grey card and then use that for all subsequent pictures, or you could go the route of using Lightroom/Photoshop or your photo editor of choice in post production which will give you a lot more options as the in camera method doesn't leave much room to play around due to the fact that the effect is applied in camera and all jpeg outputs are final. If the worst comes to the worst and you can't find a grey card you could always use a sheet of white paper, this method is not perfect but will take you much closer to the white balance that you need, but any reflection of colour from that sheet will result in a colour cast to the opposite effect, basically it's much better to always have a grey card on hand. They're cheap too, I'll bet you could buy one for less than 10/20 dollars. To be fair though your pictures are fine for online use, bearing in mind they won't be printed then hung on a gallery wall under the perfect lighting I see no problems, as not everyone will be sitting there looking at them through calibrated screens anyway so there will be variation for each viewer.
I hope everything is well over there, I couldn't get online yesterday due to being waylaid by the dreaded beer, it seems to be happening more often lately but next week I'll fix it, yeah definitely next week
You don't want to take some photographs for me do you? I have yet to check what I can salvage from my drunken photo session taken last night while swaying around hanging off my tent poles. Hopefully some will be usable 
I hope everything is well over there, I couldn't get online yesterday due to being waylaid by the dreaded beer, it seems to be happening more often lately but next week I'll fix it, yeah definitely next week
You don't want to take some photographs for me do you? I have yet to check what I can salvage from my drunken photo session taken last night while swaying around hanging off my tent poles. Hopefully some will be usable 
Weasel I am running the last of my chem plants so I will be able to retire the pH meter. Nothing makes me happier. I have been insanely busy so being able to prepare my soil drenches in 30 seconds has been such a convenience. You know, you walk into the flower room and think its going to be a no work night and some plants surprise you with a growth spurt. Their soil is almost bone dry. So with chems you spend the next 15 minutes making nutes and then water.
With Doc's kit I make the nutrient and water in less time than that! I walk in and see some soil that needs watering and smile. Drop an ounce of drench and 2.5ml tea into a 5 gallon bucket, water, and go to bed. I really think Doc's kit would be perfect for your lack of time woes. It sure is a godsend for me!
With Doc's kit I make the nutrient and water in less time than that! I walk in and see some soil that needs watering and smile. Drop an ounce of drench and 2.5ml tea into a 5 gallon bucket, water, and go to bed. I really think Doc's kit would be perfect for your lack of time woes. It sure is a godsend for me!
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Shiggity- does the kit growing method not have drenches that have to be timed correctly at -X amount of days apart, etc- which would be tricky for me to do with a slapdash schedule such as mine?
I drench in veg when the soil is dry. I drench in flower when the soil is still damp. Other than that no worries. So really like watering any grow. They dont have a set number of days.
The one exception is Cationic drench which you do when the buds set. And follow it with another Cat drench. But even that is subjective. Take a gander in my Cat drench link in my sig and you will see there is a lot of room to play with.
Some folks do a weaker transplant watering or just plain water between drenches. I go from drench to drench alternating Growth Energy and Transplant drenches. So every time I water I am adding something and drenching them. But When I water chem plants I do the same. SO it is much easier to implement and run than chem nutes have ever been. The only thing easier would be a just add water garden.
The one exception is Cationic drench which you do when the buds set. And follow it with another Cat drench. But even that is subjective. Take a gander in my Cat drench link in my sig and you will see there is a lot of room to play with.
Some folks do a weaker transplant watering or just plain water between drenches. I go from drench to drench alternating Growth Energy and Transplant drenches. So every time I water I am adding something and drenching them. But When I water chem plants I do the same. SO it is much easier to implement and run than chem nutes have ever been. The only thing easier would be a just add water garden.
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Ok thanks a lot Shiggs for that. The kit is officially back on my list then. 
I can only take on so many things at once here, but I'll PM DocB and find out about prices and consider whether to order it or hold off while I shuffle things around here. I know that ultimately I'm going to end up with some sort of organic grow- but that scenario is evolving very slowly- organically.
I can only take on so many things at once here, but I'll PM DocB and find out about prices and consider whether to order it or hold off while I shuffle things around here. I know that ultimately I'm going to end up with some sort of organic grow- but that scenario is evolving very slowly- organically.
That's totally cool. The longer you wait the mre you will appreciate when it happens! I would order the kit 2 months before you need it. The soil requires a month or more to cook. I am trying to give 1.5-2 months. Just because that is how long I let it go for the first batch of soil and my plants exceeded my expectations. I would also recommend starting with two kits. That way if you prep the second kit when you flip the first one you will have kit soil ready for the 2nd round.
Each kit will do approximately 6 plants in 7 gallon buckets (I did 5 plants in 10 gallon fabrics for my grow). So plan accordingly. I didnt plan well enough and had to do chem plants with my high brix plants this current grow. Never again! Your chem plants suffer because they can tell you get pissed at them when you have to mix nutes! Take a look at my Hits the Brix journal link in my sig for a fairly in depth look at Doc's method as I do it.
Each kit will do approximately 6 plants in 7 gallon buckets (I did 5 plants in 10 gallon fabrics for my grow). So plan accordingly. I didnt plan well enough and had to do chem plants with my high brix plants this current grow. Never again! Your chem plants suffer because they can tell you get pissed at them when you have to mix nutes! Take a look at my Hits the Brix journal link in my sig for a fairly in depth look at Doc's method as I do it.
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Thanks for the info on the photography Kriaze. I'll hopefully have an opportunity to play around with that idea tonight.
Sorry to hear about the beer attacks. Don't beat yourself up over it though please. Very counterproductive. Best wishes, and take care of yourself mate.
Sorry to hear about the beer attacks. Don't beat yourself up over it though please. Very counterproductive. Best wishes, and take care of yourself mate.
Don't make me beat you with my cane! Oh, and get off my lawn... you damn whipper-snappers.
Frost is a welcome addition. Like you, I too feel that some of the best weed I tried was not one bit frosty... but you know... I might have been younger and a touch more sensitive to the charms of the plant. Who knows the answer to such deep thoughts? Time for another charm sample!
WTF? Did you select them based on their crazy names?
I might have a modicum of respect for Panama or Bangi Haze... but the others seem like straight up marketing names.
Me too. I mean... really, after all these years every single plant I grow should be perfect, but just the opposite seems closer to truth. Drag.
G'mornin weaseley,, best wishes sent friend,, you are chatty all of a sudden,, must be around home, the grow,, cheers to home,, and to the grow,, Yay,, i near gagged when I read where you said eighteen weeks for the ma Thai/Thai Stick cross, first I thought a typo, and you really meant eight to ten weeks,, that would have suited me fine,, but,,, eighteen,, 18, eight plus ten weeks,, wow,, forever nearly,,
Not sure I will be planting another of those,, but maybe it's super pot,, a lotto time will tell.. Ha.
Harvest the first of yer plants tonight,, the mama thai/pineapple chunk,, there does not appear to be anything too special taste or smell wise about this one,, but, only nine weeks,, not eighteen,, ha
Cheers friend,,best karma sent friend,,
Not sure I will be planting another of those,, but maybe it's super pot,, a lotto time will tell.. Ha.
Harvest the first of yer plants tonight,, the mama thai/pineapple chunk,, there does not appear to be anything too special taste or smell wise about this one,, but, only nine weeks,, not eighteen,, ha
Cheers friend,,best karma sent friend,,
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Panama
Zameldelica
Bangi Haze
Golden Tiger
Peyote Purple
Snow Moon
Violetta
The names played zero part in the choices. Just picking and choosing at will from the treat box, at about $15-20 a seed. You know- Christmas shopping for myself in summer. I've seen great reviews of the first four strains, here and elsewhere. Basically mixes of old school sativas- Thai, African, Central/South American, along with some Nepali in the Bangi Haze.
The Snow Moon and Peyote Purple were picked mainly for their looks. I like growing pretty plants - as for the high, we shall see. The Violetta was free.
Most of the plants will be a one-off grow as I don't want to go through the routine of cloning everything and scrambling around trying to preserve each pheno, etc. I expect that I'll get far more joy and happiness out of this purchase than I will out of almost everything else I spend my money on- gasoline, utility bills, engine parts, boat motors, toilet paper, government/legal fees, insect repellant, lawn mower blades, chainsaws, lumber, screws, tires, sewage system products, diesel, oil, gasoline and more gasoline...
I have to stop I'm starting to feel ill...
Don't listen to that Tead, my precious darlings. He's just jealous. I love you no matter what you are named.
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Nivek the Thai Stick is 18 weeks. A cross would probably vary quite a lot. They seem to take after their mother more so it's hard to say what effect the male Thai Stick genetics will have on the flowering time.
Actually I haven't been around the grow. But I do get a couple days 'off' now to work.
Just trying to pull this journal out of the cesspool it was rapidly sinking into. It was bothering me. If I can see this journal document some positive changes in my growing methods, and end on a happy redemptive note whenever it does, further down the road, I'll feel better about the last few months which were a bit bleak on my end.
Actually I haven't been around the grow. But I do get a couple days 'off' now to work.
Just trying to pull this journal out of the cesspool it was rapidly sinking into. It was bothering me. If I can see this journal document some positive changes in my growing methods, and end on a happy redemptive note whenever it does, further down the road, I'll feel better about the last few months which were a bit bleak on my end.
lexort420
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I hate to ask but is your droopy one getting any better? Do you think its possible that its rootbound? It would have made sense that mine was since i grow in small containers but i wasn't convinced she even was. I just really wished that we could figure this out so we can learn from it and not have it happen to us or anyone else again. Should be interesting to see these new strains..... I might just go look them up lol
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~Veg~
Squeezed in some time with the plants and related projects. So, as requested by Spitz, here's a tour/update of the grow. Maybe not a five star tour with red carpet - and not much in the way of peeks behind the scenes or frills, cause I'm tired! But at least a full update.
First, I spent a bunch of time pursuing the photography issue. I got out the newer camera/phone and tried all sorts of settings with no luck. Went googling, and bought a couple different apps till I found one with a setting that lets me click on a gray card and set the white balance. I tried it on various white and gray objects - the white walls of the grow seemed to work as well as anything. I still have to shoot through the hps sunglasses, and then do a bunch of tweaking after, to end up with photos that are ok. The colour is a little cheap looking still but- we are back in business with the photos and can definitely make do for the journal. One hurdle down.
I went through the plants in veg and tried to clean up the motley troops.
Lexort, Mama Thai isn't getting better, and is as curly and malnourished looking as ever. But I haven't tried to do anything much about that lately.
I hacked some of her tops off tonight to get her height down. I'm just going to let her sit there while I wait for her cuttings to root. I'm not sure what to do with her quite yet but I don't feel in a hurry. I'd like to try side by side ph experiments on the little ones sometime, if the cuttings take, and see if the curly leaf thing is ph related like I think.
This is the first male Thai Stick which I grew last year and used to produce some seeds. I've been constantly hacking it down small. Saving it to impregnate a girl Thai Stick if I ever get one.
I put this, alleged Mama Thai/Thai Stick cross, into flowering tonight.
And also this into flower- Thai Stick #3, since I finally have a rooted cutting of it, as of yesterday.
Both of them are unsexed.
I moved the cloning centre to its summer home on the floor.
The grubby looking pink thing at the bottom is the heating pad I got from the secondhand store, with a little padding/separation between it and the tub of coco. Its very well worn from being reclined on by rapturous silver haired ladies, but works great heat wise and is more than warm enough on the low setting. Still messing around fine tuning this heating pad setup. I think Tead was probably right and temps were too high before the move downwards to the floor. Happens every spring...
Oh yeah I killed the seeds I was trying to sprout last week. Was away too long and they dried up. And so it goes...
Squeezed in some time with the plants and related projects. So, as requested by Spitz, here's a tour/update of the grow. Maybe not a five star tour with red carpet - and not much in the way of peeks behind the scenes or frills, cause I'm tired! But at least a full update.
First, I spent a bunch of time pursuing the photography issue. I got out the newer camera/phone and tried all sorts of settings with no luck. Went googling, and bought a couple different apps till I found one with a setting that lets me click on a gray card and set the white balance. I tried it on various white and gray objects - the white walls of the grow seemed to work as well as anything. I still have to shoot through the hps sunglasses, and then do a bunch of tweaking after, to end up with photos that are ok. The colour is a little cheap looking still but- we are back in business with the photos and can definitely make do for the journal. One hurdle down.
I went through the plants in veg and tried to clean up the motley troops.
Lexort, Mama Thai isn't getting better, and is as curly and malnourished looking as ever. But I haven't tried to do anything much about that lately.
I hacked some of her tops off tonight to get her height down. I'm just going to let her sit there while I wait for her cuttings to root. I'm not sure what to do with her quite yet but I don't feel in a hurry. I'd like to try side by side ph experiments on the little ones sometime, if the cuttings take, and see if the curly leaf thing is ph related like I think.
This is the first male Thai Stick which I grew last year and used to produce some seeds. I've been constantly hacking it down small. Saving it to impregnate a girl Thai Stick if I ever get one.
I put this, alleged Mama Thai/Thai Stick cross, into flowering tonight.
And also this into flower- Thai Stick #3, since I finally have a rooted cutting of it, as of yesterday.
Both of them are unsexed.
I moved the cloning centre to its summer home on the floor.
The grubby looking pink thing at the bottom is the heating pad I got from the secondhand store, with a little padding/separation between it and the tub of coco. Its very well worn from being reclined on by rapturous silver haired ladies, but works great heat wise and is more than warm enough on the low setting. Still messing around fine tuning this heating pad setup. I think Tead was probably right and temps were too high before the move downwards to the floor. Happens every spring...
Oh yeah I killed the seeds I was trying to sprout last week. Was away too long and they dried up. And so it goes...
santb
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Looks great! Photos are good too.. Did you clean up a bit? Never noticed before but looks tidy.. Sorry, not saying you were a mess before!
Still a bit of a pain with the camera, tho... I'm in the same boat and I'm thinking of buying a cheap/secondhand dedicated "plant" camera. Doesn't have to be fancy, but a decent Canon/whatever with some basic settings. And almost any camera will be better than a phone.
Still a bit of a pain with the camera, tho... I'm in the same boat and I'm thinking of buying a cheap/secondhand dedicated "plant" camera. Doesn't have to be fancy, but a decent Canon/whatever with some basic settings. And almost any camera will be better than a phone.
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My computer blew up last winter so I only have phones right now.
Yeah it's generally pretty dirty. There's only so much time. In summer I'll give it a new coat of paint
I put the hexapus back together, a little differently this time, with a larger reservoir. ( 25 gallon garbage can )
I don't need it for anything right now- just seizing my chance to put it together for when I do- since I will need it for growing in coco (I think) and for hempy (I think) and for emergency vacation waterings. The base of it is made from three shelf brackets.
Yeah it's generally pretty dirty. There's only so much time. In summer I'll give it a new coat of paint
I put the hexapus back together, a little differently this time, with a larger reservoir. ( 25 gallon garbage can
)I don't need it for anything right now- just seizing my chance to put it together for when I do- since I will need it for growing in coco (I think) and for hempy (I think) and for emergency vacation waterings. The base of it is made from three shelf brackets.
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~Flowering~
As the Malawi comes closer to the end of its flowering it continues to grow into its scorched and and yellowing leafed look, and looks much better and more natural than it did at the time when I fried the plants. Buds are very small but there are quite a lot of them. It's totally possible that this is what Malawi buds are supposed to be like anyway. I don't know. As long as they ripen up nicely I will be happy. The Malawi grow has gotten past the early flowering hiccup and should be ok now if I don't screw it up in the next couple weeks.
The Pineapple Chunk took more of a beating than the Malawi and looks much more sick and ravaged.
I donned protective clothing, went in and plucked a couple gallons of dead leaves out, which improved its looks a bunch.
If you've ever mixed up a big batch of epoxy glue, and then accidentally brushed your arm in it, or leaned on it by mistake, that's pretty much what brushing up against the pineapple chunk is like. Since it's cannabis resin and not epoxy, I guess it should be 'nice', but the sticky feeling is about equally gruesome, and the fumes are just as strong too, so I try to keep the stuff off of me.
I'll probably quit growing the Pineapple Chunk as soon as I find another indica, or indica cross, that's as good. Hopefully the Critical Cheese will fit the bill, even though it's a little more sativa.
As the Malawi comes closer to the end of its flowering it continues to grow into its scorched and and yellowing leafed look, and looks much better and more natural than it did at the time when I fried the plants. Buds are very small but there are quite a lot of them. It's totally possible that this is what Malawi buds are supposed to be like anyway. I don't know. As long as they ripen up nicely I will be happy. The Malawi grow has gotten past the early flowering hiccup and should be ok now if I don't screw it up in the next couple weeks.
The Pineapple Chunk took more of a beating than the Malawi and looks much more sick and ravaged.
I donned protective clothing, went in and plucked a couple gallons of dead leaves out, which improved its looks a bunch.
If you've ever mixed up a big batch of epoxy glue, and then accidentally brushed your arm in it, or leaned on it by mistake, that's pretty much what brushing up against the pineapple chunk is like. Since it's cannabis resin and not epoxy, I guess it should be 'nice', but the sticky feeling is about equally gruesome, and the fumes are just as strong too, so I try to keep the stuff off of me.
I'll probably quit growing the Pineapple Chunk as soon as I find another indica, or indica cross, that's as good. Hopefully the Critical Cheese will fit the bill, even though it's a little more sativa.
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And finally, I turned some trimmings and buds into bubble hash today. I've been saving sativa trimmings for quite a while, since they don't usually amount to much. So I made a batch of hash which is pure sativa, from the Malawi and Mama Thai trimmings, along with a bunch of the most heavily seeded MT buds.
Also ran through some Pineapple Chunk trimmings to make a separate indica batch.
Sativa is on the left, indica on the right. Put away on a shelf to dry out.
Also ran through some Pineapple Chunk trimmings to make a separate indica batch.
Sativa is on the left, indica on the right. Put away on a shelf to dry out.