Thirvnrob
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He also has a churn - a 1 gallon pitcher with a bubbler & various additions - worm lechate, etc, that he keeps bubbling all the time. He adds a small enough amount to his dolo water to raise ppm to 65.
The Gee Spot - You Finally Found It
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I'm glad your enjoying soil Rob
. It's where everything else begins.Patience is definitely key.It takes awhile to get the basics because there's no money in selling you a bag of calcium, so there is no instruction manual on calcium growing... err... I mean organics.
So we figure it out together and have a few laughs along the way.
I'm really proud of all of you folks hanging out around here. You rolled in looking for an answer or two, got yourselves headed in a better direction, and now all the contests are filling up with Organaholics.
In Canada, legal weed isn't allowed to have bug spray on it, so we are more organic and this info is now becoming more available.
I may have got you started, or another member hanging out here may have done it, but the effort has to come from you guys once you have the knowledge, and here is the best part that's unavoidable.
Organics is all about composting. Composting has rules but if you follow them everything else works.
Human health is actually all about composting too, as our biome is a bunch of composters. If you follow the rules everything else also works. The rules for both are pretty much the same as it's pretty much the same microbes in plants and humans.
So once you understand the organic processes it's only a matter of time until you realize that if you grow yourself thru your stomach the same way as you grow a plant thru your soil, you too have no option but to break into high brix, metaphorically speaking, and be as healthy as your high brix plant.
We run on calcium too. Digesting animal protein requires vast amounts of calcium and you will eventually need Calmag.
High brix food is calmag for humans.
So when you hear someone say "Organics is more than how you garden, it's a lifestyle", all that really means is they have figured out what I just said.
If soil gets low on calcium then nitrogen gets locked out.
In humans we call nitrogen "protein", and if you google protein, it's definition is "a nitrogenous material", so if you get low on calcium your nitrogen (proteins) get locked out in the exact same manner as a plant's does. Disease to us is bugs to a plant. Low calcium will cull you.
Plants show brown spots from a Ca deficiency, humans show type 2 diabetes from a Ca deficiency. That's why osteoporosis and type 2 diabetes go hand in hand. Cardiovascular disease has already started. If type 2 diabetes get's bad enough budrot sets in and your only option is to start pruning limbs off.
Our bodies can't intake calcium in large doses (supplements) just as plants don't enjoy strong calmag. So you have no choice but to adopt an organic approach to fix your health which turns it into a lifestyle.
That's a bit off topic but it's a spoiler alert for where your all headed so don't fight it, it will make you angry at the world because the world wants you unhealthy and that's a violation, so you get angry from being violated.
Embrace it instead, knowledge will set you free. Enjoy the results, and be happy.
It's one of those well hidden things that once you see it, it can't be unseen, and both health and good weed start with the soil.
I guess it actually wasn't really off topic....
I need a coffee
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It is a way of measuring sugars, and the refractometer also measures solids in the sap, and just like the CEC, the solids are mostly calcium, the rest is the other cations, so the fuzzy line means solids are good, and solids are mainly calcium so calcium is good.
Pests don't have pancreas's, so they can't digest sugars, so the sugars will ferment inside them and turn into alcohol and kill them. They know this so they stay away.
Different pests can handle different amounts of sugars, but at 13 or 14 brix none can handle the sugars.
She spent her whole life growing high brix and storing the sugars and minerals in her leaves for future use. When a plant decides to use those minerals instead of soil minerals you can't stop her, it's encoded in her DNA. She decided to eat from the fridge instead of going to the store.
Anything is possible but brix works best when balance is achieved. In humans it's called homeostasis.
Brix is a measure of sugars, and sugars create health. Sugars are made by successful photosynthesis, so really brix is a measure of photosynthetic efficiency.
lol no apologies needed, those are all great questions that everyone ahead of you have asked, and everyone behind you will ask.Sorry to machine gun guys
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Jon is correct. At a certain point they have more value as nutrients than they do as leaves, so she eats them and then rebuilds them in the light. It's natural and efficient. She already paid for them and now she's relocating them.My lower leaves are doing this.
I can't read this. Any idea? They are limp, not crisp.
EDIT: Problem solved. I spoke to Jon and he said these inner lowers are dying because they don't see the light, they aren't needed and it isn't a problem. He advised me to trim off some the overhanging leaves, blocking light from the lower budlets, which I've now done.
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lol you crazy chickOk, so I think this is a nitrogen deficiency? Perhaps from under watering? I am noticing that the plant is increasingly thirsty. I top dressed yesterday with Elemental Blend and EWC, and watered it in. Today I watered with fish water. The day before yesterday I watered with kelp water.
EDIT: Nope nope nope, wrong.
This is a top view
Are you asking me something here, or did someone tell you I like ditzy chicks? Just joking Carmen. Your edit threw me off. She looks gorgeous
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Rev's a wicked smart guy, he just loves speaking in riddles. He's figured out what Azi just stumbled us onto. If you don't bubble it long enough to fully dissolve, it will haunt you, as @g-one-three found out. The churn is a great idea
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Two chapters have me hypnotized are chapter 3: Everything Water & chapter 4: Everything Soil. I’m wearing the book out reading these two chapters…I gotta buy his new book, Santa let me down... Naughty list thing I suppose.....
lol you crazy chick
Thank you Gee man!
4our8ighty0
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Absolutely,I diddnt know brix was that healthy for humans too?! I also just was reading some white papers talking about how intricately intertwined our gut biome(like you mentioned) really is,it has direct effects on our mental health and psychical health of such drastic proportions that they are saying the biome gut biome is one of the missing links in holistic health,they even saying diseases like Alzheimer's,dementia ECT are related to to this gut biome. It's insanity. You obviously must have read a similar paper. Big buisness/big pharma has been obfuscating the connections.!! This is why I can't trust anything online or on TV any more. Perverse incentives is the lay of our land.....ty for the info bro,very interesting I'm very curious to read more.I'm glad your enjoying soil Rob
It takes awhile to get the basics because there's no money in selling you a bag of calcium, so there is no instruction manual on calcium growing... err... I mean organics.
So we figure it out together and have a few laughs along the way.
I'm really proud of all of you folks hanging out around here. You rolled in looking for an answer or two, got yourselves headed in a better direction, and now all the contests are filling up with Organaholics.
In Canada, legal weed isn't allowed to have bug spray on it, so we are more organic and this info is now becoming more available.
I may have got you started, or another member hanging out here may have done it, but the effort has to come from you guys once you have the knowledge, and here is the best part that's unavoidable.
Organics is all about composting. Composting has rules but if you follow them everything else works.
Human health is actually all about composting too, as our biome is a bunch of composters. If you follow the rules everything else also works. The rules for both are pretty much the same as it's pretty much the same microbes in plants and humans.
So once you understand the organic processes it's only a matter of time until you realize that if you grow yourself thru your stomach the same way as you grow a plant thru your soil, you too have no option but to break into high brix, metaphorically speaking, and be as healthy as your high brix plant.
We run on calcium too. Digesting animal protein requires vast amounts of calcium and you will eventually need Calmag.
High brix food is calmag for humans.
So when you hear someone say "Organics is more than how you garden, it's a lifestyle", all that really means is they have figured out what I just said.
If soil gets low on calcium then nitrogen gets locked out.
In humans we call nitrogen "protein", and if you google protein, it's definition is "a nitrogenous material", so if you get low on calcium your nitrogen (proteins) get locked out in the exact same manner as a plant's does. Disease to us is bugs to a plant. Low calcium will cull you.
Plants show brown spots from a Ca deficiency, humans show type 2 diabetes from a Ca deficiency. That's why osteoporosis and type 2 diabetes go hand in hand. Cardiovascular disease has already started. If type 2 diabetes get's bad enough budrot sets in and your only option is to start pruning limbs off.
Our bodies can't intake calcium in large doses (supplements) just as plants don't enjoy strong calmag. So you have no choice but to adopt an organic approach to fix your health which turns it into a lifestyle.
That's a bit off topic but it's a spoiler alert for where your all headed so don't fight it, it will make you angry at the world because the world wants you unhealthy and that's a violation, so you get angry from being violated.
Embrace it instead, knowledge will set you free. Enjoy the results, and be happy.
It's one of those well hidden things that once you see it, it can't be unseen, and both health and good weed start with the soil.
I guess it actually wasn't really off topic....
I need a coffee
You know what's great for your gut? A good chicken or bone stock. I make one with turkey bones and end up with a nice thick, gelatinous pitcher full which is great for making soups and rice and stuff.
g-one-three
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I think this may have happened to my girl last grow. She was running awesome until she had nute burn from too much calcium about overnight. I was running her at about 40ppm dolo water dosed once a week. I'm going to get my girls going at 30ppm on flower this grow to see if that's a better cut off.I think that's what Rob was getting at, and yeah that appears to be what is going on.
I never thought of ppm'ing it after mixing as I only really mix it, use it all, and then hopefully never need it again.
Sometimes I use it more than once in a grow, but it's usually a month or more between, so having it build up in the soil has never crossed my mind until you figured it out, so this is excellent info for those using it regularly.
I wouldn't go over 30ppm if I were using it every couple of weeks, now knowing what I do.
Learning never stops
Haha best quote so far I've read in this thread that stuck with me is "Get your organic calcium and you'll have a full head of hair and a great boner"I'm glad your enjoying soil Rob
It takes awhile to get the basics because there's no money in selling you a bag of calcium, so there is no instruction manual on calcium growing... err... I mean organics.
So we figure it out together and have a few laughs along the way.
I'm really proud of all of you folks hanging out around here. You rolled in looking for an answer or two, got yourselves headed in a better direction, and now all the contests are filling up with Organaholics.
In Canada, legal weed isn't allowed to have bug spray on it, so we are more organic and this info is now becoming more available.
I may have got you started, or another member hanging out here may have done it, but the effort has to come from you guys once you have the knowledge, and here is the best part that's unavoidable.
Organics is all about composting. Composting has rules but if you follow them everything else works.
Human health is actually all about composting too, as our biome is a bunch of composters. If you follow the rules everything else also works. The rules for both are pretty much the same as it's pretty much the same microbes in plants and humans.
So once you understand the organic processes it's only a matter of time until you realize that if you grow yourself thru your stomach the same way as you grow a plant thru your soil, you too have no option but to break into high brix, metaphorically speaking, and be as healthy as your high brix plant.
We run on calcium too. Digesting animal protein requires vast amounts of calcium and you will eventually need Calmag.
High brix food is calmag for humans.
So when you hear someone say "Organics is more than how you garden, it's a lifestyle", all that really means is they have figured out what I just said.
If soil gets low on calcium then nitrogen gets locked out.
In humans we call nitrogen "protein", and if you google protein, it's definition is "a nitrogenous material", so if you get low on calcium your nitrogen (proteins) get locked out in the exact same manner as a plant's does. Disease to us is bugs to a plant. Low calcium will cull you.
Plants show brown spots from a Ca deficiency, humans show type 2 diabetes from a Ca deficiency. That's why osteoporosis and type 2 diabetes go hand in hand. Cardiovascular disease has already started. If type 2 diabetes get's bad enough budrot sets in and your only option is to start pruning limbs off.
Our bodies can't intake calcium in large doses (supplements) just as plants don't enjoy strong calmag. So you have no choice but to adopt an organic approach to fix your health which turns it into a lifestyle.
That's a bit off topic but it's a spoiler alert for where your all headed so don't fight it, it will make you angry at the world because the world wants you unhealthy and that's a violation, so you get angry from being violated.
Embrace it instead, knowledge will set you free. Enjoy the results, and be happy.
It's one of those well hidden things that once you see it, it can't be unseen, and both health and good weed start with the soil.
I guess it actually wasn't really off topic....
I need a coffee
. It was something like that I swear and a great reason to get your calcium hahahaha maybe even the title of your book some day.
Thirvnrob
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Now every time I mix soil I’ll be thinking about measuring out a cup of boner meal.I think this may have happened to my girl last grow. She was running awesome until she had nute burn from too much calcium about overnight. I was running her at about 40ppm dolo water dosed once a week. I'm going to get my girls going at 30ppm on flower this grow to see if that's a better cut off.
Haha best quote so far I've read in this thread that stuck with me is "Get your organic calcium and you'll have a full head of hair and a great boner"
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Humans don't ACTUALLY produce brix, but we run on sugars just like plants, and we need a lot of the same things.
Calcium, phosphorus, carbon, oxygen, and beneficial aerobic microbes being our big 5 too, but we need vitamin D to make it all work, so we photosynthesize vitamin D instead, and get our sugars from plants.
In human diets carbon is called fiber.
Processed foods are just food with the fiber removed. Microbes love fiber. Take it out of food and microbes ignore the food. Now it won't rot. They call it shelf-stable.
So we put it in our tummies and expect our microbes to compost it, except the food factory made it uncompostable.
You can google up all this, it's common knowledge, it's just buried a little, and we've all been influenced.
Nasty hey?
Not to worry tho, the jigs up. A.I. is about to blow the lid of the whole thing.
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Do you use a spoon for the broth or do you SIP it?
Damn, Gee's on a roll! Somebody stop me!
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I think that's what happened too G. My apologies, I should have known. I don't use dolowater often enough so it never accumulated on me so I never figured it out. Azi figured it. But we know now, so that's a great thing
Boners by Gee.... Maybe I need a publisher!Haha best quote so far I've read in this thread that stuck with me is "Get your organic calcium and you'll have a full head of hair and a great boner"
If it works you wouldn't be lying if you told your wife that I gave you a boner
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Thank You Carmen, I love your photos