The Gee Spot - You Finally Found It

[Gee64]

Good evening everyone, hope all is well.
Gee that's one spectacular plant! Larf valley is the size of my whole Scrog net .

Howdy G. lol She is an expansive Gal!

 

[StoneOtter]

Hey Mr....Don't you have an indoor grow to get started??!!

You got no time for lollygagging over at Gee's place. We demand entertainment damnit!

But since you're here, have a coffee ️ and tell us what your next run will be.

Well now, as my soil finishes cooking I'm still getting on trimming the last row of bud from Apple Betty hanging across the 4 x 4 tent. Whew! That was a long row to hoe! I think today I'll finish that.

I'm waiting for Royal Queen Seeds to arrive. Punch Pie, Forbidden Fruit and Gelato 44 . Punch Pie will likely go in the 3 x 3 alone.

Forbidden Fruit, Gelato 44, From RQS and Do si Do and Black Poisonberry(me) will be in the 4 x 4.

Some changes, as usual, hehe. My lights are down and will be replaced with 4 individual Viparspectra XS1500 Pro's! The plant of the month win October put me in a position to make that dream come true!

Another change is that I'm going back to 10 gallon cloth pots for this run. Learning about brix this summer was so interesting I want to go deeper. SIP growing would blur my learning, so cloth with large heat mats and no risers for the cold nights I get.

I may include Rev's churn for a water microbial boost. I'm undecided. I like simple uncomplicated.

This plant is too big for a 10gal rootball.

Really? Rev soil?

She's eating 1 cup of Gaia 2-8-4 and 2 heaping solos of EWC every week, with at least 1 fish water and one dolowater.

That's a lot! Do you remove your bark, feed, then replace all the mulch, or just pour it on top and water through?

 

[Gee64]

Well now, as my soil finishes cooking I'm still getting on trimming the last row of bud from Apple Betty hanging across the 4 x 4 tent. Whew! That was a long row to hoe! I think today I'll finish that.

Hehe that was one big job!

I'm waiting for Royal Queen Seeds to arrive. Punch Pie, Forbidden Fruit and Gelato 44 . Punch Pie will likely go in the 3 x 3 alone.

Forbidden Fruit, Gelato 44, From RQS and Do si Do and Black Poisonberry(me) will be in the 4 x 4.

Sounds like excellent choices to me

Some changes, as usual, hehe. My lights are down and will be replaced with 4 individual Viparspectra XS1500 Pro's! The plant of the month win October put me in a position to make that dream come true!

Congrats on that! Muffy was awesome

Another change is that I'm going back to 10 gallon cloth pots for this run. Learning about brix this summer was so interesting I want to go deeper. SIP growing would blur my learning, so cloth with large heat mats and no risers for the cold nights I get.

After a bunch of Sipping it will be good to know your thoughts on the differences between the two.

I may include Rev's churn for a water microbial boost. I'm undecided. I like simple uncomplicated.

Interesting! I hope you try it out.

Really? Rev soil?

Yes, I knew I was being greedy but Larf Valley was so purdy....

That's a lot! Do you remove your bark, feed, then replace all the mulch, or just pour it on top and water through?

No I just dump the top dressing on, mix it in, and every so often add new bark. I actually need to do that today when I feed her. I find that roots attach to the bark nugs so I try not to break those attachments.

 

[StoneOtter]

No I just dump the top dressing on, mix it in, and every so often add new bark.

So more finely ground than chunky mulch?

 

[StoneOtter]

Yes, I knew I was being greedy but Larf Valley was so purdy....

Expect a pound plus then I'm thinking!? That soil's full of energy! I water only for the most part and if a plant wants to grow to be a pounder they do. Adding actual feed is new to me and I don't even know what to expect! A cup a week seems bizarre/awesome to me! This is fantastic!

 

[Gee64]

So more finely ground than chunky mulch?

It's whatever I can get. I prefer medium sized nuggets, which are about the size range of nickel to quarter, but in a pinch I used a product called Seasoil, which is basically fir bark composted with wild salmon guts.

The size is smaller but the fish adds a nice touch. Myco likes it. So I flip back and forth. It's much finer than regular bark so it buries the nuggets over.

When I grew the manifold Revegger outdoors this year the 25gal plastic pot had about 5" of head room left in it, so after flower had started I did something I don't normally do. I added 5 gallons of used soil that had been reammended with compost and EWC and left in the tub for a year, and I wanted the tub back.

I dug out a space around the trunk so it wasn't buried and figured it would leach down at every watering. I threw a cup of Gaia Powerbloom and some fresh EWC on top and covered it all with mulch.

A week later when I went to crumble up the surface and add more Gaia I ended up tilling tons of delicate feeder roots with my fingers.The plant grew roots uphill and completely filled the entire 5 gallons.

So now I'm kinda rethinking the whole process.

I'm toying with the idea of taking something like a 1 quart yoghurt container, cutting the bottom off, and then making 1 cut top to bottom so I can place it around the trunk to keep the added soil away, then figure out some kind of similar dam to go around the outside of the pot's edge, making a donut shape with the trunk in the hole.

Then adding my top dressing feedings and EWC to fresh soil, mixing it, and layering it on from above maybe 1" thick in a 5" headspace inside the donut walls, with a fresh thin layer of seasoil to mulch it on each addition, and instead of washing the food down into the rootball I'll let the roots grow up into the fresh soil to get the food.

Expect a pound plus then I'm thinking!?

I'd be good with that. It all depends how much calyx and resin grows in under all those long hairs.

That soil's full of energy! I water only for the most part and if a plant wants to grow to be a pounder they do.

I feed EWC regularly, and normally I topdress with minerals as stretch is slowing, and try for water only around that when I use 10gal pots, like when I grow Durbans, but this plant is huge. It's too big for the rootball when I run it at high VPD. Too many stomata sucking on that poor little rootball lol. I don't mind chasing her tho, she's a cool plant and worth the effort, and it's only 1 plant instead of the usual 4 so thats kinda nice. If you consider the size of the plant it's basically a small pot grow. More calcium please......

Adding actual feed is new to me and I don't even know what to expect! A cup a week seems bizarre/awesome to me! This is fantastic!

1 cup is extreme. This thing is a pig. All the LC's rebelled against the strength of Rev's mix. Miss Stickly literally said "Is that all you got??!!" She stretched forever.

Her rootball is solid, it burns thru a lot of fuel. A full inch of EWC and Gaia is completely gone in a week, right down to roots, and thats with drippers so it's not getting washed away. Her name should be Miss Piggy!.

I'll be better prepared when I grow out one of her clones.

 

[g-one-three]

iv just had to get rid of my soil Gee lol, iv got nowhere to store it , it was just starting to work well aswell
And yeah iv been watching you and g-one do your weekly dressings so I though as much, had to check thou
And yeah iv been looking at the plagron royal mix soil, it’s pretty cheap so I think I will be going with that, sodding dear hobby this in it thanks for the info mate

Hey I was just reading back through a couple of messages I missed and I agree with Carmen that totes are the way to go. Before I had a storage bin I used a 5 gallon plastic bucket with a lid. I only reuse about 25% of my soil each run so far. I save a couple chunks of the root ball as well as the top inch or two of the soil. I think I'll save around 2-3 gallons after each grow and the rest goes into the veggie garden. The bucket was so inconspicuous my wife didn't realize that's what was sitting next to the wash machine for 3 months lol.