The Gee Spot - You Finally Found It

Gee64 said:
@cbdhemp808

There was a video posted in here a few months back claiming that if you start a plant from seed and treat it as poorly as possible, so crappy soil, barely any water, that sort of thing, for the 1st 60 days, it will program itself to flourish under those bad conditions, then if you suddenly uppot it to good soil and give it the royal treatment it will be extremely exceptional because it can survive on almost nothing.

As luck had it, I had a plant that had been very mistreated for 60 days and uppotting did make it grow very well.

I cut some clones from it into a zero nutrient medium and let them root in, but left them in that medium in solos for 60 days and almost never watered them. They were almost dead.

Then I uppotted them to some flower soil and a week later this is them.

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Just before transplant.

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8 days later.

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So the clones of a programmed seed seem to carry the survival programming, or clones can be programmed too, or they would have grown that much in a week anyways. I need more data.

I like the outcome so if opportunity knocks I will definitely try it again.
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Ah! I didn’t realize the history of these guys. Wow. Awesome. Not sure I’m capable of abusing a plant for 60 days but good to know.
 
Lerugged said:
Haha. You have to fill the space down low and then let them grow up a feelw weeks then flip. .I realise I'm preaching to the choir here. Lol.
Happy Saturday
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lol yeah, it's the 1.6gal pots. That's all they can handle in flower. Even this will be challenging, but it's some fun while my soil cooks to try some Wild Ladies and LC-18's in 10gal pots.

Mostly I just wanted to see how well RVDV cloned. She went 7 for 8, so I'm going to say she is easy to clone.👍
 
Gee64 said:
If you are doing the drench with the tea then I highly recommend cutting the tea 50/50 with water. But if you have 2 plants at the same stage, do a side-by- side and see which works out better. One at 50/50 and 1 at full strength.
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I'll cut it 2:1. I've seen recommendations of like 5 or even 10:1 and I've got some outside veggies and flowers that I'll include.
 
Gee64 said:
If you use it regularly, or brew it very concentrated then other ratio's can definitely apply.
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Yeah, that makes sense. The 10:1 was a very concentrated one. I just did 8 oz of castings in my 4 gallon bucket along with 2T of molasses. I just checked on it and I have a nice bit of froth building.
 
Right. It'll be at the front end of that when the lights come on
 
Gee64 said:
So the clones of a programmed seed seem to carry the survival programming, or clones can be programmed too, or they would have grown that much in a week anyways. I need more data.
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Nice discovery! I wonder if there are any effects toward harvest.
 
cbdhemp808 said:
Nice discovery! I wonder if there are any effects toward harvest.
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I don't know yet. I culled the Mother. She grew humongous and the 7gal pot couldn't handle her, but the 4 clones I'm flowering were conventional clones cut from her after she was "programmed" so that may tell us something, and even tho I have no room to flower out these "programmed" clones of a "programmed" mother, I may have to figure something out.

I need another light, and another tent... and so on.... the sickness is real...😪
 
Gee64 said:
lol yeah, it's the 1.6gal pots. That's all they can handle in flower. Even this will be challenging, but it's some fun while my soil cooks to try some Wild Ladies and LC-18's in 10gal pots.
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Going to 10 gal pots was a big breakthrough for my greenhouse grow, with great results at harvest. Prior I was using 5-7 gal. I use the low-profile ones like this...

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...and drill extra drainage holes in the bottom. I also use coir and perlite at the the bottom to help drainage. 10 gal is still fairly easy to lift into the wheelbarrow for transfer from veg to flower house. I also have 15 gal homemade fabric pots, but found that they tend to get clogged.
 
cbdhemp808 said:
Going to 10 gal pots was a big breakthrough for my greenhouse grow, with great results at harvest. Prior I was using 5-7 gal. I use the low-profile ones like this...

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...and drill extra drainage holes in the bottom. I also use coir and perlite at the the bottom to help drainage. 10 gal is still fairly easy to lift into the wheelbarrow for transfer from veg to flower house. I also have 15 gal homemade fabric pots, but found that they tend to get clogged.
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All my pots that I flower in are cloth. The Mrs whips most of them up for me. The 10gals fit perfectly in milk crates to make moving them easier. The 7gal ones are cubes from @VIVOSUN that fit perfectly into milk crates. The 1.6gals are the ones I'm flowering these clones in.

In the tent 4 10gals fit perfectly and stabilize humidity really well.

They are pretty darn heavy when you root drench them in a tub with a 4 foot plant in them tho😔
 
RVDV clones. Days 28, 28, 14, and 10 of Flower.

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Day 28.

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Day 28.

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Day 14.

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Day 10.

The extra 2 weeks of veg made for much fuller plants. Lets hope the pots hold out.

So far no issues at the 4 week mark but the next 2 weeks tells all.

3 more weeks until senescence begins, give or take. It's gonna be close.
 
I can't keep the brix up on these. It's down to 10-12 across the board. Clones don't brix well and the Gaia soil isn't quite enough to push them up.

On ther other hand, if you want a really easy mix that will get you thru to harvest in LOS, it is really easy.

6 tablespoons of Gaia powerbloom per gallon of mix, and 1.5 cups dolomite per 10 gallons of mix. I didn't even cook it.

Then calculate how much Gaia is in each pot and divide that by 4. That is your weekly top dressing amount.

So a 2gal pot is 12 tablespoons Gaia Powerbloom in the mix, and 3 tablespoons per week of top dressing.

The only other things I have used are dolomite water, fish ferts, and EWC.

Cheap fun😎.

I can't wait to get back to Rev's mix, but the Gaia thing has been something I wNted to test for awhile now. It's definitely an easy introduction to Organics.

I recommend it to anyone wanting to try an organic grow.
 
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