The Everything SWICK Club: 2023 And Beyond

CaptainLucky said:
Actually their rope shopping bags handles. CL🍀
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Still..do they suck up water? Dangle the lower half in a bucket and see if the knots get wet and how long it takes if they do.
 
CaptainLucky said:
I’m going to uppot my Golden Tiger 🐅 into this Swick. Any advice if it’s too little or too much? CL🍀 :thanks: :Namaste:

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Hey Cap, what a brainwave! I hope these rope wicks work for you and there is only one way to find out, as Shed says... test out the wickability of the ropes. Finding the sweetspot with the wicks is important for getting moisture levels optimal, It's good to have this all done well in advance so that the soil / medium is prepared for the up-can and you are confident about the wickability of your wicks / swicks. The fine tuning happens when the plant gets involved in the wicking process and you are topping up the res.
 
Carmen Ray said:
Hey Cap, what a brainwave! I hope these rope wicks work for you and there is only one way to find out, as Shed says... test out the wickability of the ropes. Finding the sweetspot with the wicks is important for getting moisture levels optimal, It's good to have this all done well in advance so that the soil / medium is prepared for the up-can and you are confident about the wickability of your wicks / swicks. The fine tuning happens when the plant gets involved in the wicking process and you are topping up the res.
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My little Panama is loving her swick, I’m amazed at how much she drinks. It could also be evaporating I’m not sure but she’s really growing. CL🍀
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CaptainLucky said:
My little Panama is loving her swick, I’m amazed at how much she drinks. It could also be evaporating I’m not sure but she’s really growing. CL🍀
:morenutes::thanks::420::Namaste:
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well let's see 'er then :)
 
CaptainLucky said:
Okay, here’s my little Panama in her Solo Swick. CL🍀 :morenutes: :thanks::420::Namaste:

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Cap, for the life of me I can't figure out where you are swicking from. Is it below the black tray that the solos are sat in?
 
Carmen Ray said:
Cap, for the life of me I can't figure out where you are swicking from. Is it below the black tray that the solos are sat in?
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I have a piece of cotton twine in the center of the Solo tied in a knot and pulled through. The other Solo is the res. CL🍀 :thanks: :Namaste:
 
CaptainLucky said:
I have a piece of cotton twine in the center of the Solo tied in a knot and pulled through. The other Solo is the res. CL🍀 :thanks: :Namaste:
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Ok. Does it have an air gap? How do you monitor your res? What made you do it like this? How did you get your seedling started? So many questions! It's a cutie, your Panama!
 
Carmen Ray said:
Ok. Does it have an air gap? How do you monitor your res? What made you do it like this? How did you get your seedling started? So many questions! It's a cutie, your Panama!
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Seedling was popped in a paper towel. Solos have air holes and I use a 2 liter plastic bottle cap to raise the solo. Simply remove the Solo to fill the res. I didn’t have a jar to fit the Solo so I just used another one. Hope that answers your questions. CL🍀 :thumb: :thanks::420::Namaste:
 
CaptainLucky said:
Seedling was popped in a paper towel. Solos have air holes and I use a 2 liter plastic bottle cap to raise the solo. Simply remove the Solo to fill the res. I didn’t have a jar to fit the Solo so I just used another one. Hope that answers your questions. CL🍀 :thumb: :thanks::420::Namaste:
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That explains it, yes thanks Cap! I was wondering if the seed was started in the solo but no :passitleft:
 
Greetings swickers. I raised a question in Gee's thread about the fundamental differences between SIP and swick and the claims that SIP has advantages over swick. @Azimuth and @Emilya Green you both responded that SIP has an air gap and swick does not. Whilst that is arguably true of a perlite bed, it is not true of a swicky pad as introduced by @Gee64 and modified by myself in my last grow.
There was little engagement around the subject in Gee's journal so I am bringing it in here where it belongs.
If proponents of SIP are able to maintain that the SIP system has advantages over the swick system, we should be able to demonstrate the reasons why.
Please will you engage on the subject in this thread, so that it can benefit people who are swicking already and those who are interested in trying.
 
Carmen Ray said:
Greetings swickers. I raised a question in Gee's thread about the fundamental differences between SIP and swick and the claims that SIP has advantages over swick. @Azimuth and @Emilya Green you both responded that SIP has an air gap and swick does not. Whilst that is arguably true of a perlite bed, it is not true of a swicky pad as introduced by @Gee64 and modified by myself in my last grow.
There was little engagement around the subject in Gee's journal so I am bringing it in here where it belongs.
If proponents of SIP are able to maintain that the SIP system has advantages over the swick system, we should be able to demonstrate the reasons why.
Please will you engage on the subject in this thread, so that it can benefit people who are swicking already and those who are interested in trying.
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I'm sorry, but I don't know enough about it yet to be able to argue either side.
 
Carmen Ray said:
Greetings swickers. I raised a question in Gee's thread about the fundamental differences between SIP and swick and the claims that SIP has advantages over swick. @Azimuth and @Emilya Green you both responded that SIP has an air gap and swick does not. Whilst that is arguably true of a perlite bed, it is not true of a swicky pad as introduced by @Gee64 and modified by myself in my last grow.
There was little engagement around the subject in Gee's journal so I am bringing it in here where it belongs.
If proponents of SIP are able to maintain that the SIP system has advantages over the swick system, we should be able to demonstrate the reasons why.
Please will you engage on the subject in this thread, so that it can benefit people who are swicking already and those who are interested in trying.
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I'm confused as to why a pot sitting in a bed of perlite which extends above the water table doesn't have an air gap. Yes the perlite is wicking water but is there not enough air amongst the perlite bits to be considered an air gap? Does it need to be just air to fulfill that "requirement"?
 
Carmen Ray said:
Greetings swickers. I raised a question in Gee's thread about the fundamental differences between SIP and swick and the claims that SIP has advantages over swick. @Azimuth and @Emilya Green you both responded that SIP has an air gap and swick does not. Whilst that is arguably true of a perlite bed, it is not true of a swicky pad as introduced by @Gee64 and modified by myself in my last grow.
There was little engagement around the subject in Gee's journal so I am bringing it in here where it belongs.
If proponents of SIP are able to maintain that the SIP system has advantages over the swick system, we should be able to demonstrate the reasons why.
Please will you engage on the subject in this thread, so that it can benefit people who are swicking already and those who are interested in trying.
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I think both swicking and sipping have their place. I haven't finished exploring swicking yet, but soon I will move on to sipping to explore it.

I think the air gap, as defined by the sippers, is imperitive to push the grow to the extreme. I think thats because they are in hard pots and need this cloth-pot-like air-wall to excel.

I already use cloth pots so sipping wasn't an option, and I chose swicking.

I have 360 degrees of air chamber in my pot, I just need a hydro link.

I don't know yet because I haven't yet sipped, but I don't think sipping and swicking should be compared so closely.

I think they are different ways to achieve similar results for 2 very different applications. Maybe...

I will definitely do a comparison when I get a chance.
 
Gee64 said:
I think both swicking and sipping have their place. I haven't finished exploring swicking yet, but soon I will move on to sipping to explore it.

I think the air gap, as defined by the sippers, is imperitive to push the grow to the extreme. I think thats because they are in hard pots and need this cloth-pot-like air-wall to excel.

I already use cloth pots so sipping wasn't an option, and I chose swicking.

I have 360 degrees of air chamber in my pot, I just need a hydro link.

I don't know yet because I haven't yet sipped, but I don't think sipping and swicking should be compared so closely.

I think they are different ways to achieve similar results for 2 very different applications. Maybe...

I will definitely do a comparison when I get a chance.
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My interest is in the explosive growth the SIPpers are finding. I am specifically interested in soil grows. I'd like to know if the roots develop in the same manner in SIP and swick, and if they do, shouldn't there be equivalent explosive growth potential on a swick?
 
InTheShed said:
I'm confused as to why a pot sitting in a bed of perlite which extends above the water table doesn't have an air gap. Yes the perlite is wicking water but is there not enough air amongst the perlite bits to be considered an air gap? Does it need to be just air to fulfill that "requirement"?
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I argue that the dry perlite layer is an air gap. I don't understand why Azi does not consider it a proper air gap.
 
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