TeSmp's 400W White Widow's + Soil & DWC Lollipops

[SurfBuddy]

Re: teSmp's 400w White Widow's + Soil & DWC Lollipops - BPN

Surf- I cant find 35% so I just use a TON of 3% i mean its h202 both of which plants like, the only concern I would have is what else is inside that isn't listed as an active ingredient. And 3% is close to 10% of 35% so i just add 10x the 35% value and i haven't seen any bad effects yet.

TeSemp- would you mind swinging by and looking at some of my pics, My plants seems to have similar growth and since I LST'd it almost looks like your girl may have a long lost twin . I couldn't find many of your picture with the plant before flower and that is where I'm at. I would like to know when you flowered etc if you can find some spare time. Thanks buddy.

Right? It just breaks down to h20 and o2, so it should be fine

 

[Albatross]

Re: teSmp's 400w White Widow's + Soil & DWC Lollipops - BPN

Yeah, its a oxidalalize (sp?) I cant spell but yeah it cleaves the o2 off in the solution. 2 H2O2 → 2 H2O + O2. Yeah thats my opinion i use a lot of it and don't see problems, its pH is like 6, so just be aware if you use alot.
"A common concentration for hydrogen peroxide is 20-volume, which means that, when 1 volume of hydrogen peroxide is decomposed, it produces 20 volumes of oxygen. A 20-volume concentration of hydrogen peroxide is equivalent to 1.667 mol/dm3 (Molar solution) or about 6%" I found that on wikipedia it also wasnt citied. Im not familiar with 20-volume solutions so I cant confirm it, however if thats right it proves my point with h202! lol

Also ive read on here some people use vinegar to ph adjustments, if your using vinegar dont use h202 apparently it can catalyze into hydrochloric acid..which would be bad

 

[SurfBuddy]

Re: teSmp's 400w White Widow's + Soil & DWC Lollipops - BPN

Also ive read on here some people use vinegar to ph adjustments, if your using vinegar dont use h202 apparently it can catalyze into hydrochloric acid..which would be bad

Uh oh, just started using vinegar, will stop immediately.

 

[Albatross]

Re: teSmp's 400w White Widow's + Soil & DWC Lollipops - BPN

Uh oh, just started using vinegar, will stop immediately.

Look into it, im kind of confused how vinegar and h202 make HCL but, im not entirely sure what all is even in vinegar lol

 

[teSmp]

Re: teSmp's 400w White Widow's + Soil & DWC Lollipops - BPN

TeSemp- would you mind swinging by and looking at some of my pics, My plants seems to have similar growth and since I LST'd it almost looks like your girl may have a long lost twin . I couldn't find many of your picture with the plant before flower and that is where I'm at. I would like to know when you flowered etc if you can find some spare time. Thanks buddy.

Sure I'll be over there in a minute. In the mean time this is what mine looked like when I got it and right when I put it into flower:

However, these plants grew pretty quick and loved the LST so this was like 2-2.5 weeks after the first pics. and then I flowered and continued to train under the screen. This pic might even be a few days into flowering. Don't defoliate if I can give any advice, maybe a little if you would like but honestly don't worry about it!

 

[teSmp]

Re: teSmp's 400w White Widow's + Soil & DWC Lollipops - BPN

I will, and I have to read through the whole journal. I would like my ladies to look like yours in the end, but want to tie down, not top. Topping hurts my heart.

I topped them on one occasion, everything else was from LST and I had a screen in originally which helped train them but I took it back out.

 

[teSmp]

Re: teSmp's 400w White Widow's + Soil & DWC Lollipops - BPN

hey guys I just found this for h202 amounts... Mixing charts for gardening with hydrogen peroxide

 

[Pierce89]

Re: teSmp's 400w White Widow's + Soil & DWC Lollipops - BPN

I'm tired of seeing these Widows still standing. I'm ready to see a lynching.

 

[teSmp]

Re: teSmp's 400w White Widow's + Soil & DWC Lollipops - BPN

I'm tired of seeing these Widows still standing. I'm ready to see a lynching.

I know right! I'm thinking anywhere between tomorrow night and this weekend. I just have to decide to do one more flush or not. A ton of trichs are turning amber! So if they continue to turn rapidly then Wednesday I will chop if 40-50% are amber otherwise it will be this weekend. Almost all the fan leaves are yellowing and dying out because I haven't gave any nutrients.

 

[teSmp]

Re: teSmp's 400w White Widow's + Soil & DWC Lollipops - BPN

Here's how things are set up now. i got a new humidifier because the RH was down at 7% today and temps were getting to high. I couldnt set the giesel on top of the box because it was to tall and the humidifier took its place. This humidifier works so much better and its at 45% now on the low setting and you can't see mist come out at all or feel it! So I cut a hole in the box and placed the Giesel in it

 

[JuicySoil]

Re: teSmp's 400w White Widow's + Soil & DWC Lollipops - BPN

Looks very nice Tesmp, like how youre evening out the canopy, great work bro

 

[SurfBuddy]

Re: teSmp's 400w White Widow's + Soil & DWC Lollipops - BPN

Look into it, im kind of confused how vinegar and h202 make HCL but, im not entirely sure what all is even in vinegar lol

Tesmp- sorry for hijacking your thread... nice find on the mixing chart-- way more than I am using (1 Tsp/gallon) vs 1/2 cup / gallon makes me want to use more... especially in the 2L without bubbles

Found these: Vinegar and h2o2
Paracetic Acid

h2o2 plus vinegar makes Paracetic Acid. Caustic in high concentrations, used as an antimicrobial, and chlorine replacement. It takes 10 days of mix to turn to high concentration of Paracetic acid. I think it's OK in the concentrations I'm using and will continue to do so, but will report back an serious downturns in plant health.

 

[teSmp]

Re: teSmp's 400w White Widow's + Soil & DWC Lollipops - BPN

Looks very nice Tesmp, like how youre evening out the canopy, great work bro

Thank you Juicy, cutting the WW's anytime from tomorrow - Sunday!

Tesmp- sorry for hijacking your thread... nice find on the mixing chart-- way more than I am using (1 Tsp/gallon) vs 1/2 cup / gallon makes me want to use more... especially in the 2L without bubbles

Found these: Vinegar and h2o2
Paracetic Acid

h2o2 plus vinegar makes Paracetic Acid. Caustic in high concentrations, used as an antimicrobial, and chlorine replacement. It takes 10 days of mix to turn to high concentration of Paracetic acid. I think it's OK in the concentrations I'm using and will continue to do so, but will report back an serious downturns in plant health.

How are you liking your 2L with bubbles? I ordered 4 1" airstones the other day. I'm going to by h202 today because the temps are higher then I've wanted and it slightly has an aquarium smell in there. Don't quote that site on amounts, I don't know their reliability, I just thought I should share. From what I've read the ratios seem right though. Because if you want to take a 35% solution down to 3% you would divide the amount you would normally use on the 3% by 11. And in there charts if you were giving 1/2 a cup = 24 teaspoons and they're giving 2 teaspoons for 35% solution that's a 12:1 ratio so close to 11:1.

 

[teSmp]

Re: teSmp's 400w White Widow's + Soil & DWC Lollipops - BPN

anyone who's good with trichs and knowing when stuff is done!!!

Jennifer is about 35-50% amber, however, the amber looking trichs seem to be shrinking!?? Do I need to cut her quick or wait a little longer?

 

[teSmp]

Re: teSmp's 400w White Widow's + Soil & DWC Lollipops - BPN

Anyways.. Here's a few other pics:

WW:

Giesel Diesel

The pictures don't show nearly the amount of trichs there are but you get the picture!

 

[CronicHempHog]

Re: teSmp's 400w White Widow's + Soil & DWC Lollipops - BPN

awesome bud porn

 

[Stoned4daze61]

Re: teSmp's 400w White Widow's + Soil & DWC Lollipops - BPN

They look great brotha, you should definitely be proud of those WW's

I would harvest soon because the plants trichomes will continue to ripen after harvest during drying. Letting it go too long will cause THC to convert into CBN which has no medicinal properties. Here is a post from CryptLord about trichs that could possibly help you out.

CBD helps kill pain and has medical benefit, a plant either has genetic potential for high CBD or it doesnt, you cant push a plant passed its genetic potential. CBN is a product of THC breaking down and CBN has no medical or psychoactive effects, high CBN content means the bud is really old, not dried/cured properly, has been in intense light for prolonged periods or a combination of these. CBN inhibits the length of the psychoactive effects from marijuana causing it to not last as long, having to high a CBN level (no pun intended =P) and too low a THC level, there is a good chance you will get the "headache" feeling from smoking a plant that has too high a CBN level. Light, air and heat degrade THC the fastest, proper dry/cure methods and storage will help minimize CBN levels while increasing THC and CBD levels closer to their genetic potential. Also "milky white" trichomes mean nothing more then a decrease in cannabinoid production which could be linked to environmental factors in some cases. The amber trichome is when the cannabinoids are JUST starting to break down a tiny bit, usually it is best to harvest when u see your first amber trichome, but if you want higher CBD levels you can let this go till about %10-%25 amber before harvesting, letting it go longer i personally have found will allow too much CBN to develop (trichomes continue to develop/mature during final dry/cure stages keep in mind) and lowers the overall quality, letting some of the trichomes turn amber and start to break down allows more of the slightly underdeveloped tirchomes (clear/slightly milky) catch up and increase their own cannabinoid levels increasing the overall cannabinoid levels at the expense of a small percentage of overly mature cannabinoids.

Once trichome color begins to change THC is oxidizing and breaking down into CBN. While most strains will begin with a clear trichome color it is not impossible that they can begin slightly yellow or slightly amber. It is not so much the individual first or original color but when it begins to change, to cloud, to darken that THC is oxidizing.

Also I remember us talking about trichomes being a possible defense mechanism, I found a reading that goes into detail about the effects of different environmental factors such as Temp, Humidity, UV-B, Pests. It is quite a long read but some of the most detailed information I have read regarding cannabis. I thought I'd ask you for permission to post it first since it might take up 1/3 of a page Lol, if not it's no biggie I will just post it in my journal

It says that studies showed that plants grown in less favorable conditions ended up having an increase in Delta-9, and also showed an increase of cannabinoids with decreased humidity!

 

[McPuffin]

Re: teSmp's 400w White Widow's + Soil & DWC Lollipops - BPN

Haven't been on in a little while but things are looking pretty nice over there since i last saw. Keep up the good job. And if it were me i'd chop the white widow's they look to be there.

 

[teSmp]

Re: teSmp's 400w White Widow's + Soil & DWC Lollipops - BPN

Thanks for the comments guys I'll be back on after school to re write each of you.

For now: if I lose 70% of the weight when dried I will get an ounce and a half off the little WW. Not as good as I wanted but luckily the other plant is bigger and has much bigger buds. I was shooting for 3 zips initially so we will see! I think I'll let the other one go till Sunday and see the difference. It's Definately some quality meds though, and that most important

 

[SurfBuddy]

Re: teSmp's 400w White Widow's + Soil & DWC Lollipops - BPN

Thank you Juicy, cutting the WW's anytime from tomorrow - Sunday!



How are you liking your 2L with bubbles? I ordered 4 1" airstones the other day. I'm going to by h202 today because the temps are higher then I've wanted and it slightly has an aquarium smell in there. Don't quote that site on amounts, I don't know their reliability, I just thought I should share. From what I've read the ratios seem right though. Because if you want to take a 35% solution down to 3% you would divide the amount you would normally use on the 3% by 11. And in there charts if you were giving 1/2 a cup = 24 teaspoons and they're giving 2 teaspoons for 35% solution that's a 12:1 ratio so close to 11:1.

The plant with the bubbles is going off compared to the others. Definitely a YES! DO IT! but only after roots have hit the res.

anyone who's good with trichs and knowing when stuff is done!!!

Jennifer is about 35-50% amber, however, the amber looking trichs seem to be shrinking!?? Do I need to cut her quick or wait a little longer?

Sounds like from Stoned4daze's quote that the time is NOW!