Tangwena's Malawi-Style Cob Cure: Fermented Cannabis

[SweetSue]

Alls cool sister I will be leaving in a couple of days I leave home at 4.30am and arrive 3.30 to 4.00 pm its a long drive I've got to be in tune with everything to stay awake.

My father in law has decided to start dying! damned inconvenient of him I say.
How am I supposed to get my groove on with all the negative energy thats floating around.
You would think he would have the decency to get a move on other people have things to do ha ha.

I think I should explain I have no fear of dying, we check in we check out, when its your time its your time.
In the meantime lets try and have as much fun as we can isn't it?

I have a fairly pragmatic view of death: we all go there, so why waste time fearing something you can’t avoid? Death in my family was a celebration. I’ve never understood the sadness.

I do know grief, and losing a soul mate puts you through a personal kinda hell.

It’s the living that need tending, helped to find soothing ways to come to grips that someone they love won’t be here any longer for the daily intimacies.

Have a blast fishing. Cob your ass off brother.

I haven't found a single article that suggests a way to 'clean' mold from cannabis. There are many that share the throw it away dont try and use it for anything theme.

So I have no real basis for my Dont Do It message. It just seems like a really bad idea. To me anyway.

Several articles refer to inspection under black light. I guess it lights right up.

You’re listening to that quiet voice of guidance, and I’m not saying you’re not correct. I’ve already chewed some during the earlier process, without even thinking about it, and I’ve suffered no ill effects from that experience. To my memory it was a mighty fine day.

I’m still considering, and I did seal up the one piece I didn’t treat, so maybe there’ll be an opportunity to have it tested.

Wonder if I could get that done while I’m in California? Geez.... I wasn’t financially prepared for testing this time out.

 

[SweetSue]

If your like me and wash your buds this info on the flying skull nuke em page may be interesting.

Active Ingredient:
Citric Acid ….. 0.05%

Inert Ingredients ….. 99.95%
Water, Yeast (Enzymes), Potassium Salts of Fatty Acids, Sodium Benzoate and Potassium Sorbate

Grower’s Tip:
Spray plants on harvest day so mildew and mold don’t develop during the drying process.


I know I use lemon juice.

Thank you. I have a whole bag of citric acid. I buy it to clean the water distiller.

Using lemon juice in the budwash has always bothered me. It introduces high levels of limonene without being in high enough concentration to do much more than pollute the terpene profile. I can’t see how one cup of lemon juice in five gallons of water will do enough to disinfect the buds to justify the limonene introduction.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m a big fan of limonene, in the concentration my plants already offer.

 

[SweetSue]

0.2 grams gives me a comfortable day. 0.3 can be a bit intense at times, but I am sure it is all different for everyone, with different weeds. ... I am a heavy smoker like Sue.

Have fun fishing Tangwena!

Cheers Friends,

I’ll give 0.2 a try tomorrow. I’d been thinking about how Neiko’s wife was a fan of 0.2 of the Carnival cob, which I just happen to have on hand.

Thanks.... if I told you how little I smoked or ingested today you wouldn’t believe me.



I sure do love studying cannabis therapeutics though.

 

[JustMeds]

Thanks.... if I told you how little I smoked or ingested today you wouldn’t believe me.

You ain't in jail or something are you?

 

[SweetSue]

You ain't in jail or something are you?

Study and writing mode JustMeds. When I get like that I have to sometimes set alarms to remind myself to eat or smoke.

Today I start experimenting with finding a daily dose.

Carnival cob

• SweetSue
• Mar 26, 2019

A daily dose?

 

[kelticBlue]

Then there’s the fact that I know a good many of us smoked moldy weed in our past. It was an inevitable part of dealing with the underground. I can remember more than one occasion in my own past.

I am sure moldy and/or what was the stuff, paraquat spray? -just say no to paraquat sprayed bud-
ruined my lungs I am sure..
but.
i prolly smoked it all.
Mold is everywhere. . . all the time.
((disclaimer-My lungs are certainly no good anymore)) But I would not burn moldly buds today. I can say it causes a cough reaction. I have had some moldy bud recently, I turned it into topical oils.
Eating it, I dunno? never thought. Molds and yeast are both fungus, we eat a ton of all sorts fungus already.

 

[Tennessee Tim]

I wash buds in plain 5.8 ph well water, dry by hanging in a well ventilated room with a dehumidifier running. Never had a mold issue washing buds. Having said that, myself and a group of friends all developed asthma like symptoms once, from smoking moldy Mexican pot. If mold develops on curing weed(always by gross negligence) I dispose of it or turn it into oil, if not too much mold on the curing buds. I would not be afraid to eat or smoke resins hot pressed from somewhat moldy cob buds or cco made from the cobs. Cooking weed or sometimes , fungi, changes their nature and renders them very pleasant usually, at least in effects from the cannabis,if not in taste. I am not overly concerned about the issue. I am not going to treat moldy buds with more additives. Not, that they may be reduced in fungi, but that I want to taste only cannabis and get my high from unadulterated weed/cobs, as much as possible,. It is not a big deal for me, If it does happen, I will turn it into concentrate without the moldy buds residue.I would never eat or smoke bud or cobs displaying obvious signs of mold without cooking it or processing into concentrate. Except when it looked dry and tasty cured and I am out of good smoke and start to wonder about the trippy effects the fungi may enhance.

 

[Wookie0586]

I'd like to thank Sue, Tang, Lazyfish and everyone else for this fantastic thread! I feel like I know all of you after doing my best for the past, well long time, trying to read this thread. Did I hear someone ask how long? Well long enough to order some Malawi seeds (thanks to Sue's wonderful experience), grow them to fruition, and finally make my first cobs on Monday!
Time to share a few pics:

Just before harvest!

The buds for the sweat!

Bondage complete!

After the sweat

How I grew a 6 foot malawi in a 4 foot space

Smoke and chew reports to follow, thanks again to everyone who has contributed!

 

[Oldbear]

I wash buds in plain 5.8 ph well water, dry by hanging in a well ventilated room with a dehumidifier running. Never had a mold issue washing buds. Having said that, myself and a group of friends all developed asthma like symptoms once, from smoking moldy Mexican pot. If mold develops on curing weed(always by gross negligence) I dispose of it or turn it into oil, if not too much mold on the curing buds. I would not be afraid to eat or smoke resins hot pressed from somewhat moldy cob buds or cco made from the cobs. Cooking weed or sometimes , fungi, changes their nature and renders them very pleasant usually, at least in effects from the cannabis,if not in taste. I am not overly concerned about the issue. I am not going to treat moldy buds with more additives. Not, that they may be reduced in fungi, but that I want to taste only cannabis and get my high from unadulterated weed/cobs, as much as possible,. It is not a big deal for me, If it does happen, I will turn it into concentrate without the moldy buds residue.I would never eat or smoke bud or cobs displaying obvious signs of mold without cooking it or processing into concentrate. Except when it looked dry and tasty cured and I am out of good smoke and start to wonder about the trippy effects the fungi may enhance.

Hi Tim I haven't seen your name in awhile. I'm wondering how is the mold residue removed? Wouldn't the spores migrate to the concentrate?

 

[Stratholm]

I'd like to thank Sue, Tang, Lazyfish and everyone else for this fantastic thread! I feel like I know all of you after doing my best for the past, well long time, trying to read this thread. Did I hear someone ask how long? Well long enough to order some Malawi seeds (thanks to Sue's wonderful experience), grow them to fruition, and finally make my first cobs on Monday!
Time to share a few pics:

Just before harvest!

The buds for the sweat!

Bondage complete!

After the sweat

How I grew a 6 foot malawi in a 4 foot space

Smoke and chew reports to follow, thanks again to everyone who has contributed!

What beautiful plants, nice skelingtons.

 

[Stratholm]

On mould.

Isn’t one of the benifits of cobbing to exclude oxygen from the environment therefore preventing mould, weather this was the original purpose or not?

There’s a difference I think between a fermented bud and a compressed rolled cob in that the non-cobbed buds have a looser structure and more surface area. This allows a better environment (more O2 ) for mould to grow.

In the tight rolled cob the O2 isn’t present so the mould can’t get a hold on the product.

 

[Stratholm]

On edibles,

I basically just have to tell this story because no one in my real life knows I grew this weed and it was horribly funny.

The plants shown in my earlier posts were my first grow in about ten years. I cobbed 3 or 4 Oz wet weight, dried about double that for smoking and made cannabutter with the remaining trim and little spraff buds.

So just a cautionary tale really, I made 48 cannabutter cookies with 225g of the 350of butter I made,
( coconut choc chip with peanuts mmmmmmmmm).

I Ate one at 6pm and two hours later just had a tickle of a buzz so I ate another at 8 , by 10pm I was feeling quite high so just went to bed as normal.

Next morning 7am I woke up basically tripping balls. The room was spinning every time I moved and I had to take the day off work, I had a great day in bed, passing in and out of wakefulness until well after 6pm that day. So basically 20 hours incapacitated.

So basically if you haven’t eaten it before just be super super careful. I’m now quite nervous about chewing the cob so I’ll start early one Saturday and chew 0.1g and work up from there.

Sorry if this is a ramble, just got in from work and blazed one.

 

[lazyfish]

I'd like to thank Sue, Tang, Lazyfish and everyone else for this fantastic thread! I feel like I know all of you after doing my best for the past, well long time, trying to read this thread. Did I hear someone ask how long? Well long enough to order some Malawi seeds (thanks to Sue's wonderful experience), grow them to fruition, and finally make my first cobs on Monday!
Time to share a few pics:

Just before harvest!

The buds for the sweat!

Bondage complete!

After the sweat

How I grew a 6 foot malawi in a 4 foot space

Smoke and chew reports to follow, thanks again to everyone who has contributed!

Hi Wookie!! Looks like you have some great cobs there!

On edibles,

I basically just have to tell this story because no one in my real life knows I grew this weed and it was horribly funny.

The plants shown in my earlier posts were my first grow in about ten years. I cobbed 3 or 4 Oz wet weight, dried about double that for smoking and made cannabutter with the remaining trim and little spraff buds.

So just a cautionary tale really, I made 48 cannabutter cookies with 225g of the 350of butter I made,
( coconut choc chip with peanuts mmmmmmmmm).

I Ate one at 6pm and two hours later just had a tickle of a buzz so I ate another at 8 , by 10pm I was feeling quite high so just went to bed as normal.

Next morning 7am I woke up basically tripping balls. The room was spinning every time I moved and I had to take the day off work, I had a great day in bed, passing in and out of wakefulness until well after 6pm that day. So basically 20 hours incapacitated.

So basically if you haven’t eaten it before just be super super careful. I’m now quite nervous about chewing the cob so I’ll start early one Saturday and chew 0.1g and work up from there.

Sorry if this is a ramble, just got in from work and blazed one.

How interesting. What strain was it?Even with a HUGE dose of edibles, I am back to normal after ~12 hours.

 

[SweetSue]

@Wookie0586, to the madness. So glad to have another companion on this exploration. I can’t wait to hear the first of many testimonials.

Eating it, I dunno? never thought. Molds and yeast are both fungus, we eat a ton of all sorts fungus already.

See? This is what crosses my mind all the time. Then I went looking for the buds and changed my mind.

Moldy buds

• SweetSue
• Mar 27, 2019

In the tight rolled cob the O2 isn’t present so the mould can’t get a hold on the product.

This wasn’t a properly compressed and wrapped cob. It was an experiment with a branch. We’ve since learned that it was the inclusion of the branch itself that causes this concern. It’s shape keeps air pockets, and the moisture in the stem itself creates the environment ripe for mold.

Hi Tim I haven't seen your name in awhile. I'm wondering how is the mold residue removed? Wouldn't the spores migrate to the concentrate?

Here’s the other thing that keeps crosses my mind. I don’t know if

1. this mold isn’t problematic for my immune system, regardless of my vibrant health, and
2. the spores wouldn’t transfer into whatever concentrate I’d make.

Brix and I talked it over - it didn’t take long - and couldn’t convince ourselves that anything was capable of cleaning this enough to be safe.

I thought I’d dried them long enough. Evidentially I was wrong.

Dark Devil Auto 11 fermented buds

• SweetSue
• Mar 27, 2019

Too moldy to risk

Dark Devil Auto 11 fermented buds

• SweetSue
• Mar 27, 2019

Dark Devil Auto 11 fermented buds

• SweetSue
• Mar 27, 2019

They’ll be tossed. Lesson learned: clip buds from the branches.

 

[SweetSue]

On edibles,

I basically just have to tell this story because no one in my real life knows I grew this weed and it was horribly funny.

The plants shown in my earlier posts were my first grow in about ten years. I cobbed 3 or 4 Oz wet weight, dried about double that for smoking and made cannabutter with the remaining trim and little spraff buds.

So just a cautionary tale really, I made 48 cannabutter cookies with 225g of the 350of butter I made,
( coconut choc chip with peanuts mmmmmmmmm).

I Ate one at 6pm and two hours later just had a tickle of a buzz so I ate another at 8 , by 10pm I was feeling quite high so just went to bed as normal.

Next morning 7am I woke up basically tripping balls. The room was spinning every time I moved and I had to take the day off work, I had a great day in bed, passing in and out of wakefulness until well after 6pm that day. So basically 20 hours incapacitated.

So basically if you haven’t eaten it before just be super super careful. I’m now quite nervous about chewing the cob so I’ll start early one Saturday and chew 0.1g and work up from there.

Sorry if this is a ramble, just got in from work and blazed one.

Hehehe! We can laugh with you because we know you were ok, and we’ve - most of us - been there, done that.

 

[kelticBlue]

Lesson learned: clip buds from the branches.

good reminder. I have some clipping to do, Today!

 

[Tennessee Tim]

Hi Tim I haven't seen your name in awhile. I'm wondering how is the mold residue removed? Wouldn't the spores migrate to the concentrate?

Hello Oldbear! I am still around from time to time! It may depend on the method used ,I suppose. I have never detected any taste or smell from cco I have used, when some moldy buds were included in a batch and the oil was golden in color showing no signs of debris. The same with a hot squeezed bud, the resin is somewhat pressure cooked and maybe the thc or terpines neutralize the spores, if they are present. When you cook some fungi they may taste good, I just would not consume the raw fungi/bud/cob either eating or smoking. I have no test data,simply my own experience of no problems ,so far, from using some slightly moldy buds for cco/resin only.

 

[Tennessee Tim]

@Wookie0586, to the madness. So glad to have another companion on this exploration. I can’t wait to hear the first of many testimonials.



See? This is what crosses my mind all the time. Then I went looking for the buds and changed my mind.

Moldy buds

• SweetSue
• Mar 27, 2019

This wasn’t a properly compressed and wrapped cob. It was an experiment with a branch. We’ve since learned that it was the inclusion of the branch itself that causes this concern. It’s shape keeps air pockets, and the moisture in the stem itself creates the environment ripe for mold.



Here’s the other thing that keeps crosses my mind. I don’t know if

1. this mold isn’t problematic for my immune system, regardless of my vibrant health, and
2. the spores wouldn’t transfer into whatever concentrate I’d make.

Brix and I talked it over - it didn’t take long - and couldn’t convince ourselves that anything was capable of cleaning this enough to be safe.

I thought I’d dried them long enough. Evidentially I was wrong.

Dark Devil Auto 11 fermented buds

• SweetSue
• Mar 27, 2019

Too moldy to risk

Dark Devil Auto 11 fermented buds

• SweetSue
• Mar 27, 2019

Dark Devil Auto 11 fermented buds

• SweetSue
• Mar 27, 2019

They’ll be tossed. Lesson learned: clip buds from the branches.

Sue ,That is a bit more moldy than my constitution could stand,even to try and save it would not of been a go for me.

 

[Tennessee Tim]

But.... Damn! I will continue to wonder how they might taste baked, drizzled in oil, a bit of sea salt, garlic,rosemary,turmeric,ginger and a splash of Mirin sweetened vinigar.

 

[SweetSue]

But.... Damn! I will continue to wonder how they might taste baked, drizzled in oil, a bit of sea salt, garlic,rosemary,turmeric,ginger and a splash of Mirin sweetened vinigar.