SweetSue's Perpetual 3.0 - The Hempy/HB Hybrid Grow
Ya know... ya think about addin fans when the mildew hits... but make sure some of that added fan action powers extraction and recycling of the available air. Granted, my world is humid, but I run 4 fans devoted to extraction 24/7.... 3 smaller 6" fans and a box fan.
Even with all my fan action, I avoid leaves touching each other where moisture can often develop. Spraying is a no-no in my world, but I realize it's part of your routine. On the rare occasion I spray, I make sure that every sprayed plant is well covered by some good air movement.
Even with all my fan action, I avoid leaves touching each other where moisture can often develop. Spraying is a no-no in my world, but I realize it's part of your routine. On the rare occasion I spray, I make sure that every sprayed plant is well covered by some good air movement.
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Thank you Bode.
I sometimes smile at my attempts at documentation and planning. Spend hours working out the logistics and have the landscape of your life change overnight and negate the plans. 
I keep searching for the perfect method to track the plants individually, and it ends up in overkill most often. Lol! I do enjoy making it visually appealing though.
That Candy Cane is my favorite art piece on display in my living room.
Morning Tead.
This space is the bathroom, and the door is wide open all day long, so I'm fairly certain there's decent movement going on, although that could be improved on, I'm sure. I think it's been a case of overcrowding, compounded by the fact that there wasn't enough fans for that many plants. Then, I turned the major fan off early two days in a row because I was going out and knew I'd be back after lights out, so I wanted everything closed off.
And it just occured to me that the solution to that dilemma is to plug that fan into the timer. I suddenly realized I'd not done that yet. Isn't it amazing the things you can overlook?
I tread dangerously when it comes to relative humidity. With numbers up in the high 80s quite often, I have quite the wind blowing through and a 105cfm exhaust running 24/7 all in a 10sqft space. One day I'll get bitten but till then I'll continue to fill the little box full. 
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I tread dangerously when it comes to relative humidity. With numbers up in the high 80s quite often, I have quite the wind blowing through and a 105cfm exhaust running 24/7 all in a 10sqft space. One day I'll get bitten but till then I'll continue to fill the little box full.
It'd benefit me to not overcrowd when I lack copious ventilation, wouldn't it?
I switched the plug for the larger, more powerful fan to the timer, at long last. That should solve most of the problem. I stood in the doorway to the bathroom to judge the exiting air movement, and there's a fair amount of it, causing a gentle breeze at this end of the room. From this point on there won't be more than two in here, and I'm shooting for one. That Jamacian clone is going to love this space.
What you've learned to do in your space is truly amazing.
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This was interesting. I found this on another site, posted by a cultivator who had the exact same reaction.
By: Arzeena Hamir
Less than 3 years ago, researchers in South America discovered a new alternative to controlling powdery mildew. Wagner Bettiol, a scientist from Brazil, found that weekly sprays of milk controlled powdery mildew in zucchini just as effectively as synthetic fungicides such as fenarimol or benomyl. Not only was milk found to be effective at controlling the disease, it also acted as a foliar fertilizer, boosting the plant's immune system.
Powdery mildew in the cucurbit family is caused by the organism Sphaerotheca fuliginea. It is a serious disease that occurs worldwide. For decades, organic gardeners had to rely on making a spray from baking soda to control the disease. Now, instead of measuring out the baking soda and combining it with a surfactant (a "sticking" substance) of either oil or soap, gardeners need only head for their refrigerators.
In his experiments with zucchini plants, Bettiol found that a weekly spray of milk at a concentration of at least 10% (1 part milk to 9 parts water) significantly reduced the severity of powdery mildew infection on the plants by 90%. While some gardeners may be tempted to increase the concentration of milk for more control, Bettiol found that once concentrations rose above 30%, an innoccuous fungus began to grow on the plants.
How does milk control powdery mildew?
Scientist aren't 100% sure how milk works to control this disease. It seems that milk is a natural germicide. In addition, it contains several naturally occurring salts and amino acids that are taken up by the plant. From previous experiments using sodium bicarbonate, potassium phosphate, and other salts, researchers have found that the disease is sensitive to these salts. It is possible then, that milk boosts the plant's immune system to prevent the disease.
Milk used around the world
The benefits of using milk to control powdery mildew haven't been isolated to Brazil. Melon growers in New Zealand are saving thousands of dollars every year by spraying their crops with milk instead of synthetic fungicides. The melon growers in New Zealand have been so successful that the wine industry is taking notice and beginning experiments using milk to control powdery mildew in grapes.
What kind of milk should be used?
In Bettiol's original experiment, fresh milk was used, straight from the cow. However, this is obviously not feasible to most home gardeners. The research work in New Zealand actually found that using skim milk was just as effective. Not only was it cheaper, but the fact that the milk had no fat content meant that there was less chance of any odours.
Wagner Bettiol's original article was published in the journal Crop Science (Vol. 18, 1999, pp. 489-92). It can be found on-line at:
https://147.46.94.112/journal/sej/ful...908_180801.pdf
© Copyright Arzeena Hamir
Arzeena is an agronomist and garden writer with Organic Living Newsletter.
It didn't escape me that the concentration above 30% caused problems with unwanted fungus, or that skim milk is recommended for the reduced fat content, which translates into less unpleasant odors.
I'll be heading out for a walk, and on the way home I'll pick up a bottle of skim and give the Spa residents a quick spray, to be repeated weekly from here to harvest.
Sounds like a plan.
By: Arzeena Hamir
Less than 3 years ago, researchers in South America discovered a new alternative to controlling powdery mildew. Wagner Bettiol, a scientist from Brazil, found that weekly sprays of milk controlled powdery mildew in zucchini just as effectively as synthetic fungicides such as fenarimol or benomyl. Not only was milk found to be effective at controlling the disease, it also acted as a foliar fertilizer, boosting the plant's immune system.
Powdery mildew in the cucurbit family is caused by the organism Sphaerotheca fuliginea. It is a serious disease that occurs worldwide. For decades, organic gardeners had to rely on making a spray from baking soda to control the disease. Now, instead of measuring out the baking soda and combining it with a surfactant (a "sticking" substance) of either oil or soap, gardeners need only head for their refrigerators.
In his experiments with zucchini plants, Bettiol found that a weekly spray of milk at a concentration of at least 10% (1 part milk to 9 parts water) significantly reduced the severity of powdery mildew infection on the plants by 90%. While some gardeners may be tempted to increase the concentration of milk for more control, Bettiol found that once concentrations rose above 30%, an innoccuous fungus began to grow on the plants.
How does milk control powdery mildew?
Scientist aren't 100% sure how milk works to control this disease. It seems that milk is a natural germicide. In addition, it contains several naturally occurring salts and amino acids that are taken up by the plant. From previous experiments using sodium bicarbonate, potassium phosphate, and other salts, researchers have found that the disease is sensitive to these salts. It is possible then, that milk boosts the plant's immune system to prevent the disease.
Milk used around the world
The benefits of using milk to control powdery mildew haven't been isolated to Brazil. Melon growers in New Zealand are saving thousands of dollars every year by spraying their crops with milk instead of synthetic fungicides. The melon growers in New Zealand have been so successful that the wine industry is taking notice and beginning experiments using milk to control powdery mildew in grapes.
What kind of milk should be used?
In Bettiol's original experiment, fresh milk was used, straight from the cow. However, this is obviously not feasible to most home gardeners. The research work in New Zealand actually found that using skim milk was just as effective. Not only was it cheaper, but the fact that the milk had no fat content meant that there was less chance of any odours.
Wagner Bettiol's original article was published in the journal Crop Science (Vol. 18, 1999, pp. 489-92). It can be found on-line at:
https://147.46.94.112/journal/sej/ful...908_180801.pdf
© Copyright Arzeena Hamir
Arzeena is an agronomist and garden writer with Organic Living Newsletter.
It didn't escape me that the concentration above 30% caused problems with unwanted fungus, or that skim milk is recommended for the reduced fat content, which translates into less unpleasant odors.
I'll be heading out for a walk, and on the way home I'll pick up a bottle of skim and give the Spa residents a quick spray, to be repeated weekly from here to harvest.
Sounds like a plan.
KeifKeith
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I think a good bit of the smoke I bought in the late 60s and early 70s was full of mold and mildew. So much so that now when I smell mold sometimes, I'll look around and my mind wonders ... where is that weed smell coming from?
It can't be a good thing to have smoked it, but I'm still kicking over 50 years later!
Peace
Keith
It can't be a good thing to have smoked it, but I'm still kicking over 50 years later!
Peace
Keith
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I think a good bit of the smoke I bought in the late 60s and early 70s was full of mold and mildew. So much so that now when I smell mold sometimes, I'll look around and my mind wonders ... where is that weed smell coming from?
It can't be a good thing to have smoked it, but I'm still kicking over 50 years later!
Peace
Keith
OMG Keith...... 
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I sprayed the hell out of the Spa girls with skim milk, helped them dry a bit and dropped them back under the lights. I'll begin doing that every Monday for anything growing in the bathroom.
I'll have you know I never even thought to beat myself up for not doing this earlier. I'm getting better at this unconditional loving thing.
I'll have you know I never even thought to beat myself up for not doing this earlier. I'm getting better at this unconditional loving thing.
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*contented sigh*
Graytail, you have stronger lungs than I.
Takes me five pulls to get the entire load. 
*contented sigh*
Graytail, you have stronger lungs than I.
You're up late Sue! What is that little device? .
That's a very old-school smoking device. It was created as part of a kit called a "dugout" - a thin, hollow rectangular box to hold the herb with a carved sliding top, and a deep hole to carry a brass "bat" (baseball references). I carried one in my pants pocket for years. Mine's the real deal - bought it in 1983 - has literally had pounds of weed smoked through it. 
Sue, you may have the newer version. I have one of those too, and that bowl is deeper - more like 4 good hits for me.
Mine's the real deal - bought it in 1983 - has literally had pounds of weed smoked through it. Sue, you may have the newer version. I have one of those too, and that bowl is deeper - more like 4 good hits for me.
Crap, apparently too buzzed to post images ... 
A long time ago,,, people thought it was good to wet your Mexican and bury it till it molded... Made it stronger........... This is back in the paraquat days in the mid 70's to late 70's? Oh well true story...
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When we were ignorant and learning everything for ourselves, we thought that might be what produced that nice brown color - maybe let 'em mold a little?
Of course that just made it smell like silage. 
Ours was fresh and green, y'know, so that didn't look right. Heheh, didn't smell "right" either - not a bit like Mexican brickweed.
We had the only fresh sinsi the area had ever seen.
I remember a guy who use to hit his buds with propane to make some interesting golden colors... But true then we didn't have a clue.................
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rikvasen
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Well Sue, I'll be a bit rude and throw my message right out into your thread because you guys really need to know this! But sorry anyway <3
So I'll basically stop growing Cannabis for now until it's clear to me if it's okay for me to continue outside. Will be a bit ling before the outside grow season starts again. But I'm getting into a lot of contact with the police, in a good way! I'm going for a hunting permit and gun permit here in the Netherlands and if you guys know the NL, getting gun permits and hunting permits is one hell of a big deal amd growing Cannabis indoors is a little bit illegal. So, my passion really is getting a gun permit, start to hunt, and work as a police officer. I can not afford to get caught with anything. That doesn't mean I won't be around here on 420Mag! Because I still really love talking to you guys and enjoy all your threads!
So I'll basically stop growing Cannabis for now until it's clear to me if it's okay for me to continue outside. Will be a bit ling before the outside grow season starts again. But I'm getting into a lot of contact with the police, in a good way! I'm going for a hunting permit and gun permit here in the Netherlands and if you guys know the NL, getting gun permits and hunting permits is one hell of a big deal amd growing Cannabis indoors is a little bit illegal. So, my passion really is getting a gun permit, start to hunt, and work as a police officer. I can not afford to get caught with anything. That doesn't mean I won't be around here on 420Mag! Because I still really love talking to you guys and enjoy all your threads!
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I smoked some of that moldy weed, and to be honest, it was more potent. Kinda scary to think back on how "experimental" we were, isn't it?
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No need to apologize rik. Sounds like a plan that'll work for you. It's gonna bother you not to be growing though, so brace yourself for that. There are benefits to growing that go beyond the consumption. Most of us go a little nuts without the drone of fans.
Best wishes for your transition into peacekeeping.