SweetSue's Hempy Haven: Powered By Timber

Actually, both of my old tents have Timbers, and the middle one always did. No nanners in that tent ever. There were too many variables to say for sure what caused so much hermie behavior in that tent.

Except the unstable Devil's Carnival. They always hermie. :battingeyelashes:
 
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Great day to you SUe - mine is still in the morning stages, I suppose you’re moving into evening soon, so I’l wish you a lovely evening instead.

Hey- I experimented with my dosing a bit. Have taken some oil by ingestion recently and its been ok - good even. Mmmmmmakes a yummy hot chocolate :) The Afghan x Critical Mass oil, with it’s amazing flavours was awesome in the hot chokky and well pain killing too :thumb: I’ve some fun to have working this out! And probably making chocolates !
 
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Great day to you SUe - mine is still in teh morning stages, I suppose you’re moving into evening soon, so I’l wish you a lovely evening instead.

Hey- I experimented with my dosing bit. Have taken some oil by ingestion recently and its been ok - good even. Mmmmmmakes a yummy hot chocolate :) The Afghan x Critical Mass oil, with it’s amazing flavours was awesome in the hot chokky and well pain killing too :thumb: I’ve some fun to have working this out! And probably making chocolates !

Ooo... chocolates. Mmm.... Marc was always enthusing about chocolates. I can't believe I haven't tried chocolate production yet. This could be the answer to my daughter's long-distance dosing chocolates weigh significantly less than brownies to ship.
 
SOmeone was doing a grow with an old one of these late last year - but abandoned it I think. It’s the tube of light thing yeah?

I think most of them eventually found their true purpose... as dumpster filler. Not enough space, poor lighting (the originals used a few of those obsolete (IMHO) U-shaped fluorescent bulbs, poorly designed, and quite expensive for the time. Support was... Well, I do remember the 1-800 "BUDS" (or was that BUDZ?) so there was some, for a while, technically.

But it was possible to harvest some buds from one. If you had low expectations and lots of time. Or if you knocked the top off and grabbed a 70-watt HPS. The same could be said for your average aluminum trash can, though. But even now, they're only about $35, lol (and you can use a 150-watt HPS ;) ).

They helped support the "Stoner Mag" with their advertising dollars, and undoubtedly caused more than a few creative people (the type of Head who ended up "borrowing" the family car's cigarette lighter and a few parts from his model train set, and the light bulb from his overhead bedroom light and turning them into a rudimentary (but one with an adjustable temperature vaporizer, lol) to find themselves going, "Hmm..." So you could say that the Phototron did contribute something.

Hey Sue - because you mentioned HomeBox tent recently I just wanted to pop back here to say if you do, I recommend only considering their very top line range (the Evolution)> And even then, I’d look into the manufacturing. I ordered a mid range one - it ended up not being in stock so they (retailer) sent me the lower end one and a small refund. Well, it’s super light leaky and I think it’s going to be refunded (not sure if i’ll need to return it - it sounded like maybe not). ANyhoo - here is one of the pics i took to show the retailer the leaks (a 25 second long exposure, in the dark)

But I’ve realised that cheaper means more stuffing around with it, stiff zips etc. and all of that is proving really problematic for me physically. Sometimes for extra ease of use (which I need), you just have to spend a bit more.

I’m still taken with the Homebox top line range and the white “Par+” lining, but a bit dubious about the quality of their mid and lower range so that makes me wonder.

Is the long exposure time artificially inflating the (perception of the) amount of light leakage? Or merely allowing the camera to "see" what your eyes see?

This brings up a general question: Many companies, regardless of whether it be grow tents, automobiles, et cetera, offer multiple products at different price points. Personally, I am of the opinion that even the "base model" should fulfill the basic purpose of the product. An automobile manufacturer's cheapest model should still be capable of providing basic transportation from point A to point B even if it isn't an overly comfortable ride, cooling is provided by opening the windows (by turning the crank handles instead of tapping buttons), entertainment(?) is provided by one of the passengers singing, et cetera. A grow tent should have the ability to support a reasonable amount of weight from its ceiling (which is not the same as being able to stand in for your chin-up bar on a regular basis), have reasonably reflective walls (at least 75% reflectivity, because I'd consider less than that to not only be poor, but unreasonable, too)... and to keep light OUT during the dark cycle. More money should add more features, better durability, or both.

BtW, if someone sent me that picture and used it to demand warranty coverage (or refund), and I was some <BLEEP> in a suit, I'd probably reply that you needed to sit inside the darkened tent and take a picture to see if enough light was actually getting in to potentially cause an issue. Which might seem like just a way to fight the customer's claim (and it probably would be, in practice) - but how much light does get in, during lights-off, when the room it's in is illuminated as per normal? Presumably, neither you nor most customers are using 1KW HIDs as room lighting, lol - on the other hand, most rooms have windows, and sunlight coming through one can be pretty bright. And IF enough light can get inside the tent under normal conditions (and daylight seems like a normal condition to me, along with average indoor artificial lighting levels), then that's a non-functional product, IMHO.

Aside from that, I perceive that pattern of holes as being a sign of poor quality. I'm guessing the zipper in my jeans are attached better than that, else I'd have to replace my pants far more often :rolleyes: . And my pants were almost certainly cheaper.
 
I believe all the nanners started appearing under the GROWant 480.

Now there's a frightening thought.

I had a tendency to leave the side vent of tent #3 exposed after lights out. That may have been a more powerful contributor to the nanners. That vent faces the hallway and there’s a lamp right around the corner.

It can be difficult to nail down that one causal factor in the real world, eh? (And that's assuming that it actually is ONE thing.)
 
some decent oil from mexican brick weed

A lot of folks made oil upon discovering that their $50 sativa seed purchase came in little candy bar shaped lids of cannabis.

LMFAO.
 
:thumb: yep TS - most of that leak is visible to my eye, although there were more holes in the actual fabric panels than my eye had seen. ANd you may be right about the sit inside test, as I haven’t done that. Bu as you say - it is poor quality and that’s a reason to send it back, simply because I’d aimed for better and the retailer is happy enough with those pics to do a return. SO even if I might be ok in terms of light leak - the tent is difficult to manage and to get the zipper flaps to really block out light coming through the zip during dark, I would have to add some strips to them to make them cover it better. Too much stuffing around for something that should serve that basic purpose out of the box, as you said :)
 
Ok cool - that’s a good experiment, with the Timber in one of the old tents. If you do find the old tents leakiness is a problem, Grizzwald just gave me a good tip on seasoning tent seams the way you would with a swag. You spray wet the seam from teh inside and then from the outside and let it dry. SHould close things over a bit. NOt sure if it works on old ones - but if the leaks seems to be an issue might be won’t a try.

GI boots are sized to fit by marching the new recruits into the nearest creek/bog/etc. - and then several more miles, until they've dried, lol, so it does make a kind of sense.

OtOH, my $19.95 specials started falling apart the moment I got them thoroughly soaked pressure washing stuff on a job. So much would depend on the materials and quality of construction. Flip a coin, it'll either help, hurt, or make no difference (what? a coin can theoretically land on its edge, ya know ;) ).
 
Now there's a frightening thought.

It can be difficult to nail down that one causal factor in the real world, eh? (And that's assuming that it actually is ONE thing.)

Yes it can, complicated by the fact that I'm basically lazy

Oh my God.....Tead and I are a perfect match. :rofl:

.....I was saying I don't follow the rules of the game. I make crazy decisions and end up winning anyway. Lol! When you go against the grain so often you get used to occasional glitches and learn to roll with it. :battingeyelashes:

TS...you had me screaming with laughter. :rofl:
You folks talking about that iso-‘thing’ back there, does that ‘iso’ indicate isopropyl alcohol. I’ve only recently heard that you can use that to make extract - anyone here do that with ISO?

Shhhh...... Lol! I once lit a fire among the oilers by suggesting this was possible. In the United States they add something to ISO to make it dangerous to drink. That product isn't acceptable from a strict medicinal standpoint, but if we're being honest, most of the alcohol is purged. Use a vacuum and you get even more out. I see no reason to vilify those who prefer an ISO extraction or use it because they have no other solvent available. Use caution and purge as thoroughly as you can. Consider other extraction options.

If your immune system is compromised there are better options for cannabis medicines by infusing. An infused oil is easier to dose in small increments, an important consideration when creating a personal regimen.

Now the ISO sold in the rest of the world doesn't assume we need to be protected from consuming it and they don't pollute it with additives. It's used for extractions all over the planet. Again, there are better options available, but why deny anyone this one? Just be aware of what you're introducing into your body and make sure you're comfortable with it.

For me it comes down to your intent. Who's this being made for and what's the intended delivery system? My preference is infusions. So easy to work with and the carrier oils add medicinal value. Win/win. :slide:
 
Anyone got any experience with a Unit Farm tent? I’m searching out review etc online, but thought i’d post here as well, just in case.

Looks like the standard older(?) generic Yield Lab type rectangular-doored (as opposed to the D-type doors) tent to me. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing; they're probably all made in the same factory, lol. I'd be at least slightly concerned that... Well, products that fail quality control aren't always recycled destroyed - sometimes they get sold in wholesale lots to entities that add their own name/label and sell the things to the public. If I remember correctly, this happens to a lot of LED diodes that fail QC.

Hey, did the original M-H tents have rectangular doors? Because Unit Farm's descriptions on their website have an awfully familiar read.
 
Now that's just downright disturbing. To willingly sell defective products to an unsuspecting public.....they deserve what comes back to them.
 
In the United States they add something to ISO to make it dangerous to drink.

True statement. But isopropyl alcohol is toxic anyway. Not as toxic as antifreeze, but carbon monoxide can kill a person as easily as cyanide, lol. It metabolizes into acetone, which isn't exactly beneficial to an organism (but, again, there are more toxic alcohols). Some countries have "rubbing alcohol" that is allowed to contain ethyl aka ethanol (what folks drink when they want to only kill a few million brain cells at a time at parties ;) ). But every bottle of the stuff I've ever purchased was isopropyl.

The LD50 of (unadulterated) isopropyl alcohol is significantly lower than that of ethyl alcohol. Either can kill a person, of course, if enough gets consumed.

I could easily be wrong here, but I have always assumed that the legally-required adulterants were added to make the product immediately toxic. In other words, so a person would tend to have trouble actually consuming a fatal dose of the isopropyl content in the first place.

most of the alcohol is purged

Yes. But what about those adulterants? I have no idea what their boiling points are (for example), or even whether or not one or more of them are capable of combining in some way with some of the cannabinoids, so I couldn't speculate .[/quote]

Use a vacuum and you get even more out. I see no reason to vilify those who prefer an ISO extraction or use it because they have no other solvent available.

Me, either, as long as a person isn't distributing them to others without also informing those others about how the products were extracted. We are, after all, largely responsible for our own actions.

Plus, I mostly favor a different substance for cannabinoid extractions, one that's mostly considered dangerous due to stupid people using it in enclosed locations that have potential sources of combustion/ignition in them, lol, and a lot of folks frown on that. So I'd feel a bit of a hypocrite if I "vilified" someone for using any particular thing to do it.

In terms of alcohols, I'd be far more likely to recommend ethanol, though. No, it's not commercially available (as an intoxicant) in every country that sells alcohol intoxicants. But it's not all that complicated to make. A person can use something like a Charles 803 still to get 194-proof alcohol (which might be enough for one's needs), and removing the final 3% of water content is straightforward.

It's not as simple as strolling into the local pharmacy / grocery store / chemist and grabbing a few bottles of the shelf, of course ;) . Cost might be a factor, at least in the short term (one must spend money for the equipment) . And running your own distillery can often be illegal.
 
Now that's just downright disturbing. To willingly sell defective products to an unsuspecting public.....they deserve what comes back to them.

Welcome to capitalism, lofl.

Back in the usetowas, lol, that kind of stuff would all end up in flea markets and "seconds" stores. These days, they get sold by companies that pop up like sores on a diseased... well, you know. In some parts of the world, the customer's recourse is either nonexistent to begin with, the local political/legal climate allows the owners of the companies to simply close up shop and reopen under a new name (sometimes even in the same location, with the same equipment/employees/etc.), or by that whole "corporate shield" thing (limiting the principals' liability to what they've actually invested into the company while protecting all their other assets).

The Internet kind of fosters this behavior. You tend to know if that 70-year old family owned business down the street is selling trash, because word gets around. But a twelve-year old can whip up a nice website in an evening, even throwing in lots of "customer reviews" to catch the gullible people's eye.
 
Yeah TS - i thought their spec list read a bit too much exactly like Gorilla’s too.
products that fail quality control aren't always recycled destroyed - sometimes they get sold in wholesale lots to entities that add their own name/label and sell the things to the public.
Now that's just downright disturbing. To willingly sell defective products to an unsuspecting public.....they deserve what comes back to them.
Welcome to capitalism, lofl.
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But a twelve-year old can whip up a nice website in an evening, even throwing in lots of "customer reviews" to catch the gullible people's eye
These are the reasons I’m here annoying everyone with question about this tent and that! I’ve painted myself into a dimensional corner so now I’m seeking to remain within those dimensions and the options are limited... or expensive. I’m willling to stretch to 3 x 3’ and I’ll do expensive in the end if it seems the best option - we have after-pay these days after all :battingeyelashes: - but FYI, a $USD250 tent in the US is 480-500 here. The retailer is offering me $A450 on the Gorilla. This is way higher than the simple exchange rate... but that’s a common thing here in the land of Oz
Still browsing... :surf::nomo::surf:
 
Yeah TS - i thought their spec list read a bit too much exactly like Gorilla’s too.


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These are the reasons I’m here annoying everyone with question about this tent and that! I’ve painted myself into a dimensional corner so now I’m seeking to remain within those dimensions and the options are limited... or expensive. I’m willling to stretch to 3 x 3’ and I’ll do expensive in the end if it seems the best option - we have after-pay these days after all :battingeyelashes: - but FYI, a $USD250 tent in the US is 480-500 here. The retailer is offering me $A450 on the Gorilla. This is way higher than the simple exchange rate... but that’s a common thing here in the land of Oz
Still browsing... :surf::nomo::surf:

Come at it energetically. Stop looking and spend some time getting the satisfied feeling of having the tent you desire. Relish in that for a bit. Take a hit or two and just stand at the tent in your mind gazing at the flowering beauty in there and pat yourself on the back for having found the perfect fit for your space and for your lifestyle.

Then go back to the search. See if it goes any smoother. :battingeyelashes:
 
:thumb: I do that everyday with the plant :) I hadn’t factored the tent in ... well I had and thought it was here, just need to adjust to that and go again ...

And I almost feel like I KNow it will be the gorilla. Ive realised i need to be careful to get one with good easy zippers because the in & out of the tent is actually becoming taxing on my hands (it’s hard for folks to understand or imagine what happens) - so I need to approach it like i’m Getting it for someone with pretty severe arthritis in there hands, that prolly the closest analogy. So i have to include hands without pain in that vision/experience :battingeyelashes:
 
:thumb: I do that everyday with the plant :) I hadn’t factored the tent in ... well I had and thought it was here, just need to adjust to that and go again ...

And I almost feel like I KNow it will be the gorilla. Ive realised i need to be careful to get one with good easy zippers because the in & out of the tent is actually becoming taxing on my hands (it’s hard for folks to understand or imagine what happens) - so I need to approach it like i’m Getting it for someone with pretty severe arthritis in there hands, that prolly the closest analogy. So i have to include hands without pain in that vision/experience :battingeyelashes:

Amy, try attaching a pull to the zippers. I use those craft strips I use to tie the branches to the bamboo poles. I have them looped through the zippers.


You wouldn’t think such a small thing would make as big a difference as it does, but this attachment makes it much easier for me to open and close the tent. It might help you too. :battingeyelashes:
 
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