SweetSue's Cannabis Oil Study Hall

The lecithin is said to speed up the time it takes to notice the effects and also said to make the medicine/effect stronger. You can absolutely use it without lecithin.
 
Evening Ms Sue :-)

Well we would like to add to the DMSO discussion if it ok with you.
We made canna cream with DMSO and hemp oil, now it's a bit on the oily side and can stain clothing however, it's been a huge hit up this way. We have had some discussion with Sue on things that we have seen and heard from our little test group that we would like to share. 1st our dog ended up having a large growth that hung from his chest and was about the size of a softball that would turn to an open sore, we thought to ourselves, wth, let's try it out on the dog. So we lathered on a nice thick coat of this cream onto and around this growth, 24 hrs later........yea, just the sore spot could be found but no large hanging growth. Several people with bad joint pain have tried it out and yup, it's helping them as well, even a few folks that have said " nothing" helps have had great success with it. We will have more information as far as cancer is concerned in a few weeks, a friend will be having surgery in about a week and we are praying that it has at least helped and reduced the tumor size.

We can't say that this will help everyone because that would be very inaccurate but we can say that it has helped with skin issues, sore joints, sore backs, sore muscles etc in friends/family from 20's to late 80's in age. We used only Buds for the infusion but don't think that's the reason, we think the mix of everything is what makes it work in most cases. We say most cases because this is a small group <20 people and may not be for everyone. We used Sues cream recipe and just added hemp oil and two tbl spoons of DMSO, we had to add more bees wax to stiffen it up to our liking but nothing else. A friend with hand joint pain had used DMSO on its own and had very little relief, with this cream its night and day. I used it on a sore knee one night, next morning I was good as new.

Blessed Buds our friends and be well :passitleft:

Well you certainly got my attention. Thank you for the share. Nearly jumped up and down with joy, but it's 2 AM, so I did it in spirit. Lol!

Keep good notes. What you're doing is on the cutting edge. There are many who can learn and benefit from it.


.............. Oh yeah....... :hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs:
 
Thanks Rabbi

So what does the lecithin do then? Just hold it together long term?

Is the oil usable without the lecithin (in other words can I start using it while waiting for the lecithin to arrive)?

And is there anything particular I should consider when sourcing the capsules?

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You want capsules that can hold oil without degrading. On the BioBomb thread I have a picture of the ones I usually buy. Something like them, in the size that suits you.

The lecithin, when mixed with the infused oil and refrigerated for 24 hours minimum, will encapsulate the bonded oil and cannabinoids, assisting in their easy absorbtion into the system. In other words it increases bioavaibility. In my experience, the edibles and capsules that were processed with lecithin take effect faster and last longer than those made without.

The oil is certainly effective without, just not as much so.

I think of it like this: infusing into olive oil gets the cannabinoids absorbed into the system before they get to the liver. Lecithin helps that happen more quickly. Skipping that first pass to the liver means more cannabinoids are available to signal cellular change. Lecithin helps get even more through the barriers to absorbtion. It's all about improved bioavailability.
 
The lecithin is said to speed up the time it takes to notice the effects and also said to make the medicine/effect stronger. You can absolutely use it without lecithin.


You want capsules that can hold oil without degrading. On the BioBomb thread I have a picture of the ones I usually buy. Something like them, in the size that suits you.

The lecithin, when mixed with the infused oil and refrigerated for 24 hours minimum, will encapsulate the bonded oil and cannabinoids, assisting in their easy absorbtion into the system. In other words it increases bioavaibility. In my experience, the edibles and capsules that were processed with lecithin take effect faster and last longer than those made without.

The oil is certainly effective without, just not as much so.

I think of it like this: infusing into olive oil gets the cannabinoids absorbed into the system before they get to the liver. Lecithin helps that happen more quickly. Skipping that first pass to the liver means more cannabinoids are available to signal cellular change. Lecithin helps get even more through the barriers to absorbtion. It's all about improved bioavailability.

Thank you both, very much .

I'll let you know how it goes - I think the lecithin is coming across the sea from the US so don't know how long it's going to take... hopefully patience will prevail and there'll be some oil left by the time it gets here!

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This looks really exciting. It sells for $599, and it just shot to the top of my wish list, right next to a vacuum oven. :laughtwo:

[video=youtube;HaAh78yIVEQ]https:/www.youtuce.com/watch?v=HaAh78yIVEQ[/video]
 
I think the central message of cannabis is that we were evolved to heal.

Thoughts?
 
You could maybe use that for making soap or topicals.

I don't think you would loose any residual cannabinoids in the lye/water reaction.
Maybe someone with more soap making experience could clarify, maybe Magnus8?

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Oh my.. I like experimenting but I chocked when I,heard Emerson blender with weed in olive oil. Pulverized weed into an oily mass that doesn't ..

Wait........ I know how to reclaim the good stuff and get out pulverized weed.
Add one part tepid water to mixture, put into container with extra space to spare with oily mass and added water.
Place into frigerator.... wait hour or so. See if your oil hardens. If not into,the fridge.
Here what we want. As we add water, oil floats on top. Weed pulverized is in the water.we want weed to,go to cold water and then we want olive oil to harden, remove what hardens.

Or freeze the water, it will,have most of weed pulverized, and throw it out.
Keep oil, with coconut oil, weed not needed to be pulverized, and water the cooked out buds drop,to,bottom of water, the nasty crap goes to,water, the
Thc
The Cbd
Others.. go into the oil molecules.... the coco nut oil, floats to top, and hardens at 40 degrees just pop out a frozen oil puck. 85 % of the available thc will,be in the oil. So math alerts

25 grams, 20% avg thc, 5.0 grams, 5000 mG of thc oil theoretical
Olive oil accepts 65% of theoretical...study high times...lol it up....
If using coconut oil 85% ....this is not an efficiency of extraction when boiled in oil the thc comes off those leaves in less than 25 minutes once at temp. They move into,the molecular structure of,the oil. It is that process, moving thc from leaf through water by heat to oil, the oil then can accept only so much..
butter 60%
Olive oil 65%
Coconut oil 85%
So of the theoretical available thc. Of 5000 mG
We can expect best to,get;

3000 mG in butter
3250 mG in olive oil
4250 mG in coconut oil.

In these process use 1:1 oil to,water, heat 45 minute,212f,
Pour cooked slop through mesh into container to separate oil by cooling after cook /extraction..

It's a great process.... ...
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Please , don't ever pulverize the weed. It's hurts the flowers no makes a horrible mess. The thc we seek is on the leaf not in the plant. On the plant.
.......
You can take some thc and get a high.. it's nice
You can consume 100 to 1000 mG and heal,your self....

I do,both...lol
 
I think the central message of cannabis is that we were evolved to heal.

Thoughts?

"Cannabis take a little and expand your mind, Consume a bunch and heal,thy self".

Sue, so toke, cookie, bong, oil, extract, boil, grow, harvest,cure. Repeat. And then , one the pain ceased, the long nightmare ended. Released from a medical prison. Thank you lord for making the fruit of the vine, Cannabis is it's name. Little get you high, a lot helps you'].. for real......sometimes...it helped me . I woke up 8/13/2017, released from a lifetime sentence. This feels so wonderful......

Sue, you can tell I'm still wowed,by the healing power do to consumption of stuff that's based on RSO using qwet...thank you for helping me.
 
I think the central message of cannabis is that we were evolved to heal.

Thoughts?

:allgood: I have always been a quick healer I think is has to do with my immune system has been in tune. I had not credited my cannabis smoking to this ability, but maybe I should. I had a major accident in 2002 and degloved my leg and was in a coma. during recovery I grew a inch of muscle in a day, so much so it had to be cut down and trimmed to fit. I would have lost the leg if the wife hadn't said no to it being amputated. I have always healed quickly and have been smoking since I was a teenager. :Namaste:
 
:allgood: I have always been a quick healer I think is has to do with my immune system has been in tune. I had not credited my cannabis smoking to this ability, but maybe I should. I had a major accident in 2002 and degloved my leg and was in a coma. during recovery I grew a inch of muscle in a day, so much so it had to be cut down and trimmed to fit. I would have lost the leg if the wife hadn't said no to it being amputated. I have always healed quickly and have been smoking since I was a teenager. :Namaste:

Now that is one responsive ECS. :laughtwo: Obviously, your supplementation with phytocannabinoids has benefitted you. :cheesygrinsmiley:

The ECS modulates the immune system.

I found this delightful video representation of the ECS and how cannabinoids work.

[video=youtube;CHrjiG-XzXE]https:/www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHrjiG-XzXE[/video]
 
Oh my.. I like experimenting but I chocked when I,heard Emerson blender with weed in olive oil. Pulverized weed into an oily mass that doesn't ..

Wait........ I know how to reclaim the good stuff and get out pulverized weed.
Add one part tepid water to mixture, put into container with extra space to spare with oily mass and added water.
Place into frigerator.... wait hour or so. See if your oil hardens. If not into,the fridge.
Here what we want. As we add water, oil floats on top. Weed pulverized is in the water.we want weed to,go to cold water and then we want olive oil to harden, remove what hardens.

Or freeze the water, it will,have most of weed pulverized, and throw it out.
Keep oil, with coconut oil, weed not needed to be pulverized, and water the cooked out buds drop,to,bottom of water, the nasty crap goes to,water, the
Thc
The Cbd
Others.. go into the oil molecules.... the coco nut oil, floats to top, and hardens at 40 degrees just pop out a frozen oil puck. 85 % of the available thc will,be in the oil. So math alerts

25 grams, 20% avg thc, 5.0 grams, 5000 mG of thc oil theoretical
Olive oil accepts 65% of theoretical...study high times...lol it up....
If using coconut oil 85% ....this is not an efficiency of extraction when boiled in oil the thc comes off those leaves in less than 25 minutes once at temp. They move into,the molecular structure of,the oil. It is that process, moving thc from leaf through water by heat to oil, the oil then can accept only so much..
butter 60%
Olive oil 65%
Coconut oil 85%
So of the theoretical available thc. Of 5000 mG
We can expect best to,get;

3000 mG in butter
3250 mG in olive oil
4250 mG in coconut oil.

In these process use 1:1 oil to,water, heat 45 minute,212f,
Pour cooked slop through mesh into container to separate oil by cooling after cook /extraction..

It's a great process.... ...
-------------------
Please , don't ever pulverize the weed. It's hurts the flowers no makes a horrible mess. The thc we seek is on the leaf not in the plant. On the plant.
.......
You can take some thc and get a high.. it's nice
You can consume 100 to 1000 mG and heal,your self....

I do,both...lol

I started making fresh harvest infused oil Marc, using olive oil for the most part, which leaves behind a fine mash. Oldbear convinced me to try eating the mash. I keep it in the fridge and have a spoonful every time I think about it. Turned out to be tastier than I thought it would be. :battingeyelashes:

LVMarc42 said:
You can take some thc and get a high.. it's nice
You can consume 100 to 1000 mG and heal,your self....

Couldn't agree with you more. :hugs:
 
I had mixed olive oil with some dried bud ready to infuse in a bath but had to leave it for a few weeks in the fridge. Some mould spores started. But very minimal. I removed most of the affected mix. But should I chuck it all or am I okay to continue making an infused oil from it??
 
I had mixed olive oil with some dried bud ready to infuse in a bath but had to leave it for a few weeks in the fridge. Some mould spores started. But very minimal. I removed most of the affected mix. But should I chuck it all or am I okay to continue making an infused oil from it??

It depends on your sensitivity to molds and the type of mold. If it's grey, black, green or pink chuck it. They can produce dangerous toxins that may remain after you remove the visible mold. The part of mold you see is just the fruiting body. Most of the mold is invisible root-like hyphae that have worked their way through the buds. Heating the oil during infusion and decarb will kill the hyphae and spores but not eliminate the toxins.

If it's white it should be fine after heating except for people that are sensitive to mold. I'm not an expert on mold toxicity, so key word is "should". Use your own judgment. If you can get by without it I would. And of course if you notice anything weird or off if you try it.
 
I had mixed olive oil with some dried bud ready to infuse in a bath but had to leave it for a few weeks in the fridge. Some mould spores started. But very minimal. I removed most of the affected mix. But should I chuck it all or am I okay to continue making an infused oil from it??

KingrAbbi... is right.when in doubt throw it out.. or something like,that... moldy oil what would you eat it with like a salad? Use on your skin, feet, can't hurt outside if it don't stink. I wouldn't eat it.
 
Sue,
The video explained to me what has happened to me... thank you.
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Hmm ok a link.. one day pics.

It works like gabapetin and lyrica are supposed. And with cannabis you don't get poisoned. Sue, it become apparent 10million spine, nerves, have been soaked,sacked and had by the New Jersey mob, big pharmacy. NIH has the data, patent and we suffer... oowwwwww.
Good thing I've mellowed.....but it means they know of what they do. And we were the guinea pigs and political pawn , ...
I,had thought the nerves in my legs felt way different, numbed out. Functional numb. Feels weird, but ,,sue I'm alive today still. Standing up.
Xoxo xoxo o thanks again for the video. I'm done figuring out if my regime was responsible, did,the oil play a part, .. how long will,this last.. I'm so scared to go,back......
 
Sue,
The video explained to me what has happened to me... thank you.
IMG_095058.JPG


Hmm ok a link.. one day pics.

It works like gabapetin and lyrica are supposed. And with cannabis you don't get poisoned. Sue, it become apparent 10million spine, nerves, have been soaked,sacked and had by the New Jersey mob, big pharmacy. NIH has the data, patent and we suffer... oowwwwww.
Good thing I've mellowed.....but it means they know of what they do. And we were the guinea pigs and political pawn , ...
I,had thought the nerves in my legs felt way different, numbed out. Functional numb. Feels weird, but ,,sue I'm alive today still. Standing up.
Xoxo xoxo o thanks again for the video. I'm done figuring out if my regime was responsible, did,the oil play a part, .. how long will,this last.. I'm so scared to go,back......

That was an excellent video, wasn't it? I keep replaying it. There must be something in it my brain hasn't picked up on yet. That's usually the way it goes with these things the universe sends me. There's something I needed to hear and feel that'll clear up a question I have. I just don't always know what the question was at first. :laughtwo: Ahhh... the thrills of an inspired life.

I can understand your fear, but it's groundless. You won't be going back. You not only found cannabis, you schooled yourself in methods to properly process that precious flower into potent healing medicine and trained yourself through the grueling path of trial-and-error to find administration methods that complimented your lifestyle and offered you the greatest relief.

That took great courage Marc. There's no way you could go back to the man who took the pills the doctor prescribed with mindlessness. You've evolved, and there's no turning back from that. I'm thankful that part of your growing brought you to us so you could continue to learn and share with others what worked for you. Cannabis expresses so individually that we need massive amounts of documentation to sort through when we go looking.

Trial-and-error experimenting with cannabis is fun. No side effects and no chance of addiction or death take all the stress out of it. Since the ECS runs best when you're laughing and feeling playful and joyful this is a good thing. :cheesygrinsmiley:

Having weathered the ravages of diabetes with my late husband, neuropathy among them, it can be painful to realize the relief we could have found with a better supply of cannabis. What we did for 34 years was survive, but never enough to heal. Hearing about others getting the relief he couldn't used to be just as painful to me. It's indicitative of how much I've healed since his death that reading your post brought only joy that you weren't suffering with that anymore.

I'll let out a little whoop of joy, if that's alright with you. :battingeyelashes:

:yahoo: WOO HOO!! :yahoo:
 
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