SweetLeef's Gone Even More Mas Muy Loco - Perpetual - 4400W TopLED - SuperSoil

Catman12 said:
:bravo: I caught up on both Veg and Flower SweetLeef. Very, very nice - And you seem to know all your ladies well! :Namaste: You have so many strain varieties I'm getting quite the education! :peace:
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I spend a decent amount of time with them, even when I'm not bending and watering.

I feel like I don't know the girls in the flower tent very well. Winnie and Laura and myself, the auto and the solo cups and I are tight. But the 16 hopefuls I real don't know. They are growing fine and got thrown into flower early. I will be spending more time in there starting tomorrow because it's been a couple weeks now, they could be starting to show. Although I think it'll be a couple more weeks now.

JadeLotus said:
Hey SL!! Your tents are full!! I hope you are blessed with lots of girly cookies!! As for your picture issue, you should be happy. I do everything through my phone but I have to upload pics one at a time!! :volcano-smiley: You have some very interesting strains going. They look so different!! I thought one of my cookies gave up on life but looks better now. May your garden stay lush and green!!
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Glad your cookie didn't crumble. I think you'll really like em' They can handle pretty much anything you throw at them. Hearty plants for sure.

B A R said:
McD's
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Reggie:high-five:SweetLeef
 
I forgot to say this a few days back when the seedlings popped up.

After trying the soaking the beans in water for 24 hours before dropping them in the dirt, trick, I have concluded that putting the bean anywhere before dropping it in the dirt is a wast of time. Every time I have dropped seeds, they start to pop on the 4th day. I soaked the beans for 24 hours and then dropped them in he dirt, and it was still 4 days after putting them in soil before the joined the world. Thus adding a whole day to the process.

For me, there is no point in wasting time with these other methods. I just can't see the point in adding the extra steps.

Any-who. Hope you all have a good day. It's off to work I go :)
 
SweetLeef said:
It's true. You do not want to expose your skin to the light as the UV-C radiation will cause cancer at an accelerated rate.

For around a hundred bucks, you can get a UV-C light wand. I don't want to spend a hundred bucks though. So I am going to DIY a UV-C light.

I will use the reflective side of my old grow tent to line the inside of the box that will fit over most any plant. I will set the box over the plant and turn it one for about 20-30 seconds once a day for a couple of weeks and then I will move to a once a week regimen.

It should knock out what little PM I have and make sure it never comes back. :)
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Wow, GL w/ this Sweet and B safe sir. Even the thought of this makes me anxious but u clearly seem to know what u r doing. Thx Sweet cheers
 
colorfuldayze said:
Wow, GL w/ this Sweet and B safe sir. Even the thought of this makes me anxious but u clearly seem to know what u r doing. Thx Sweet cheers
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Thanks Color,

To be honest I don't "know" what I'm doing. But you can buy it in a wand, I figure my box idea has to be at least as safe as a wand. I don't know. At least if I do get cancer from it I'll have plenty of pot to ward it off :laughtwo:

spiritmoon said:
Nice Job bro !! :bravo:
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Thanks Spiritmoon,

Welcome to :420: Glad you stopped by here! I'm spending more time everyday in the grow room :)

Do you have a grow going/planning on getting one started? If you do you should share link to your journal here. I'm sure a bunch of people would love to come see what you've got going on :)
 
Today I received a christmas present.

I received some magic beans from a friend who recently returned from a trip to Amsterdam. (hint)

I will be using said magic beans to make more magic beans :high-five:

I just dropped into the dirt

Peppermint Kush

Burmese Kush

S.A.G.E.

Really excited to have 3 more strains (18 in total) and even more fem seeds to make :high-five:
 
SweetLeef you are taking it to the BeanHouse sir!
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Fantastik! Well done Sweet - 18 strains - that is both amazing and admirable. And may I quote you..."To be honest I don't know what I'm doing..." - ewezuh knowz watjyuh dewin fumb wut eyemuh ceein! Oh, and that's dutch for 'u go dawg!' :)
Best Sweet, thanks, and happy Friskunk eve to you and all!


:Namaste:
 
colorfuldayze said:
SweetLeef you are taking it to the BeanHouse sir!
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Fantastik! Well done Sweet - 18 strains - that is both amazing and admirable. And may I quote you..."To be honest I don't know what I'm doing..." - ewezuh knowz watjyuh dewin fumb wut eyemuh ceein! Oh, and that's dutch for 'u go dawg!' :)
Best Sweet, thanks, and happy Friskunk eve to you and all!


:Namaste:
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:high-five: I'm really excited. I am entertaining the idea of getting two more strains to make it an even 20. But I haven't decided yet, and it won't be until after christmas if I do.

JadeLotus said:
:high-five:RoorRip:slide:
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:high:five: :bong: :laughtwo:

Mr Teddy said:
:ciao: SweetLeef

Your magic beans from Amsterdam friend sent me over.

I shall begin, as I was taught, at the beginning.....
:circle-of-love:
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Well, Thanks for swinging by! It's good to have you 'round these parts. I've been reading your convo's with OMM and others around here and I think it's great you are here :high-five:
 
Hey Sweetleef I'm late to the convo...

UV light....yep stay away from it, radiation drops of with the square of the distance, so if your outta harms way, then alls good, but you dont want to be working under that sort of light at all, not one bit.


Did you say you prefer direct sow? I do. I don't think it's necessary, a seeds does not get a fluffy white wet tissue in nature. Obviously we wish our little beans a good and healthy start, hence for me, why I sow direct into into 1" native tubes...they germinate or they don't, and there's no disturbance of the roots.

The other thing about it...whilst you are waiting for emergence...4 days give or take like you said...that little root has established itself, and in a 1" native tube that's about 4" long, in a seed that is what we call on the farm 'a good doer', then that root is damn near 3" of that in those 4 day's...anyone see Cannafans direct sow time lapse video...the first 1/2 I guess of the whole vid was root development before emergence above ground.

You interrupt that and slow it down rooting outside soil or media, the roots are already out...too late in my opinion.


Love your work :) and jealous as of your Amsterdam connection :)
 
SweetLeef said:
Thanks Spiritmoon,

Welcome to :420: Glad you stopped by here! I'm spending more time everyday in the grow room :)

Do you have a grow going/planning on getting one started? If you do you should share link to your journal here. I'm sure a bunch of people would love to come see what you've got going on :)
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Thanks dude! I'm just waiting two Led Mars 2 1200 that I ordered last week to start a journal with full power!! :D
Best regards :Namaste:
 
TassieDevil said:
Hey Sweetleef I'm late to the convo...

UV light....yep stay away from it, radiation drops of with the square of the distance, so if your outta harms way, then alls good, but you dont want to be working under that sort of light at all, not one bit.


Did you say you prefer direct sow? I do. I don't think it's necessary, a seeds does not get a fluffy white wet tissue in nature. Obviously we wish our little beans a good and healthy start, hence for me, why I sow direct into into 1" native tubes...they germinate or they don't, and there's no disturbance of the roots.

The other thing about it...whilst you are waiting for emergence...4 days give or take like you said...that little root has established itself, and in a 1" native tube that's about 4" long, in a seed that is what we call on the farm 'a good doer', then that root is damn near 3" of that in those 4 day's...anyone see Cannafans direct sow time lapse video...the first 1/2 I guess of the whole vid was root development before emergence above ground.

You interrupt that and slow it down rooting outside soil or media, the roots are already out...too late in my opinion.


Love your work :) and jealous as of your Amsterdam connection :)
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Hullo Sweeleef. I hope you don't mind me furthering this discussion on your thread.

TassieDevil - :high-five: - interesting, and yes I have seen Canna's excellent video. You know, every gardening bone in my body wants to germinate in soil. It's what I do with all my vegetables. However, they are dirt cheap seeds .:) But I've had zero success with it and 100% success with the ol' tissues and paper plate; plus the nervous transfer. Maybe my potting compost is too rich. I'm going to try next time with plain sphagnum peat moss and perlite.
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Hey Mr Teddy,

I'm in agreance that if it works, don't mess with it :)

I may have to qualify my methods, so that it is clear as possibly I lead you slightly astray.

Ok, so I've prepped my seedling pot with soil mix, take some of your mix, mine has all sorts of big lumpy stuff in it, so I just get rid of the big stuff so I've just got soil, and I add 50% more propagating sand to the mix, so it's 50/50 sand and soil. I make a little depression in the filled seedling pot. Add a pinch enough to fill and mound the depression of the sandy mix. Seed in, JUST below the surface, cover the whole surface with about 1/8" of thereabouts propagating sand, gently soak with spray bottle, done.

Full light, 25C, I don't use dark or cling wrap, but you must be VERY careful about drying out...remember I've a proper pot with soil, not a pellet or otherwise, soil takes longer to dry out I reakon, or at least doesn't fluctuate as rapidly in moisture content as some of the other mediums. For the time of germination I will watch and water every 2 hours if necessary. My madness :)

So, my seedling mix is less 'hot' than a full potting mix...that may help...again, I don't want you killing good seed for my stupid method, in my journal the bagseed is from 6 years ago...I'm gettting 70% + germination rate, without even really trying, with really old bagseed.

It works for me, I don't quite understand why it doesn't for others, just saying is all. I like to mimic nature with anything I do, so the paper towel just doesn't do it for me....if I tried it I'd probably come up with higher germination rates, but I get a undisturbed up to 3" tap root and above ground in 4 day's there abouts, so I don't bother :)

Thanks for engaging me :)
 
spiritmoon said:
Thanks dude! I'm just waiting two Led Mars 2 1200 that I ordered last week to start a journal with full power!! :D
Best regards :Namaste:
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Awesome! Let me know when you light arrives. I'm along for the ride :)

colorfuldayze said:
Heya SweetLeef, I say go for it, you nearly have half the gene pool growing in your garden already - don't stop now! :)

Tassie, nice discussion re: the germination methods and considerations. Choice stuff gentlemen - Cheerio!

Best to you Sweet!

:bigtoke:
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Thanks Color. I took your advise. I was at a buddies warehouse grow last night and he gave me a Blue Dream and a Mt. Hood Magic cutting. Looks like I'm at 21 strains now. I miss counted the other day, so yeah. 21 strains....That is once the beans pop up!

Mr Teddy said:
Hullo Sweeleef. I hope you don't mind me furthering this discussion on your thread.

TassieDevil - :high-five: - interesting, and yes I have seen Canna's excellent video. You know, every gardening bone in my body wants to germinate in soil. It's what I do with all my vegetables. However, they are dirt cheap seeds .:) But I've had zero success with it and 100% success with the ol' tissues and paper plate; plus the nervous transfer. Maybe my potting compost is too rich. I'm going to try next time with plain sphagnum peat moss and perlite.
:cheertwo:
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Please feel free to ALWAYS further a discussion on my threads, it's the only way to get content worth a damn. I will further it even further below Tassies reply :)

TassieDevil said:
Hey Mr Teddy,

I'm in agreance that if it works, don't mess with it :)

I may have to qualify my methods, so that it is clear as possibly I lead you slightly astray.

Ok, so I've prepped my seedling pot with soil mix, take some of your mix, mine has all sorts of big lumpy stuff in it, so I just get rid of the big stuff so I've just got soil, and I add 50% more propagating sand to the mix, so it's 50/50 sand and soil. I make a little depression in the filled seedling pot. Add a pinch enough to fill and mound the depression of the sandy mix. Seed in, JUST below the surface, cover the whole surface with about 1/8" of thereabouts propagating sand, gently soak with spray bottle, done.

Full light, 25C, I don't use dark or cling wrap, but you must be VERY careful about drying out...remember I've a proper pot with soil, not a pellet or otherwise, soil takes longer to dry out I reakon, or at least doesn't fluctuate as rapidly in moisture content as some of the other mediums. For the time of germination I will watch and water every 2 hours if necessary. My madness :)

So, my seedling mix is less 'hot' than a full potting mix...that may help...again, I don't want you killing good seed for my stupid method, in my journal the bagseed is from 6 years ago...I'm gettting 70% + germination rate, without even really trying, with really old bagseed.

It works for me, I don't quite understand why it doesn't for others, just saying is all. I like to mimic nature with anything I do, so the paper towel just doesn't do it for me....if I tried it I'd probably come up with higher germination rates, but I get a undisturbed up to 3" tap root and above ground in 4 day's there abouts, so I don't bother :)

Thanks for engaging me :)
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I have not tried anything other than direct sow. I'm not really interested to either.

It's funny, if you ask someone who doesn't grow pot, how to grow pot. Everyone I have asked, at least. The first thing they tell you is you HAVE to germinate the seed in a paper towel. As if dirt wouldn't work.

When I started growing, I bought a few seeds, one of each of a couple of strains. Then I got nervous that I would hurt the tap root or drop the seeds whilst trying to transplant. I figured I've got one of these and I want it to work so I'll put it straight in the dirt. So for it's worked really well for me. I've had probably 90% germination with the GSCxATF bag seed and about 95% with single seeds I have purchased. It's almost like the seeds know they are the only one you have and you are counting on them ;)

I started with regular cheap potting soil and then would transplant into the super soil. Now I just go straight into super soil and haven't had any problems, and that's 16 different strains all popped and established themselves without incident in Supersoil.

I fill the cup with soil, get it soaking wet. The water compacts the soil a bit so I add more dry solid and get it wet too. Then I set the seed on the surface of the dirt and using my index finger I push the seed straight down, about 3/4 of the way to the first knuckle, or just past the back of the fingernail if that makes sense. I cover the hole and put the solo cup into the bus tub, uncovered with the other soon to be seedlings and then I wait 4 days. until they start to pop :)

I don't use plastic to cover, I just get the dirt good and wet BEFORE dropping the seed. If you plant the seed and then water it, the seed can float away. Just a tip for those who didn't realize that's a thing.

Gonna go play in the garden. Got some watering to do, and hopefully we can confirm so females in the flower tent tonight!
 
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correction to my method as so correctly shown by SweetLeef's description.

Ummm, yep I water the base potting mix in first to settle it in the pot, before I add the sandy mix for the seed...umm in my defence can I say I was stoned when I wrote that and it's been 2 months since I've put seeds in soil....:thedoubletake:


what was I talking about....:hmmmm:
 
Timely discussion on germination (as I wait for a good sized seed order to arrive). The direct sow into soil is what I'm all about. I will soak the seeds in water for a while though, because I believe that helps. Cannabis seeds are so damn expensive, you gotta try your best to get them to sprout. With veggies I'll just sprinkle seeds everywhere, then thin them out later on. Big difference. Anyone else feel like they are screwing us when we buy (cannabis) seeds?

Couldn't people breed cannabis seeds for sale and sell them for $20 a 10 pack and still make loads of money doing so?
 
I go back and fourth on if seeds are expensive or not.

I think seed banks have several ways to justify they price of their seeds, most seem legit to me.

There is definitely risk involved in operating a company which ships illegal contraband to the world.
It takes a very long time to create and stabilize a strain. Subcool said it used to take 13 years to stabilize a strain, but they can do it in 5-7 now because there are a lot of people who can grow out the strains, give feedback and make things roll a little quicker.
Once grown out, the price of the seed is a drop in the bucket compared to what a fully grown plant is "worth"

But, seeds don't work sometimes,
they have a weird mutation or come out sickly
there is noway to know what phono you will have, or genetics for that matter.

So it's hard for me to decide if they are truly expensive or not. I'm talking about the 20-50euro range.(cause that's how the seed banks usually show prices, and I'm too lazy to try and do math right now:)) I don't think I'd buy one that was above that range because if it didn't germ or something I would feel like such a chump.

I don't know, I could go back and fourth on it all day.

Once I have a bunch of fem seeds made, your suggestion would be a definitely maybe for sure possibility, I think :)
 
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