ThatOneGuyy
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That's great to hear considering Im using the same nute pack as you !
At least I know its still quality and will get the job done. Especially considering the price of the bundle. 
Sukafr33's Third Indoor Soil Grow
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That's great to hear considering Im using the same nute pack as you !
At least I know its still quality and will get the job done. Especially considering the price of the bundle. - Thread starter
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SuKaFr33
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you wanna know whats really crazy, when i went to water them tonight the roots had to be atleast 2 inches long, and on everything i love last night when i checked them there was only tips stickin out, and i mean barely anything, now take a look at this pic...
heres a pic of a couple of them..
heres a couple pics of them in the cab..
they are growin like crazy since i transplanted them, i might have to put them in 12/12 before i planned the way its lookin..
heres a pic of a couple of them..
heres a couple pics of them in the cab..
they are growin like crazy since i transplanted them, i might have to put them in 12/12 before i planned the way its lookin..
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SuKaFr33
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its crazy how they rate you on this site, you could have been on here for years and and got all kinds of grows and other shit and only have 1 box under your name, and then theres people that have been on here for a couple months and dont have nothin but alittle bit of bullshit on their page and they got boxxes out the ying yang, i dont get it.. dont make no damn sense to me...
Aaron Quix
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Those boxes are rep points given to you by other members bro. To some degree it's a popularity thing. People give them to you when you post something really helpful, or they just really like your post, or pics. But it's mostly given to people for being helpful and posting useful info....
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SuKaFr33
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lol well i guess that teaches me a lesson then..all i gotta say..
Aaron Quix
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Lol, I didnt mean for that to come off so sharp sorry bro! I was just tryin to explain the dealio. I actually tried to give you some reps a little while ago for your plants looking so good! But it wouldnt let me, which means I've given them to you before for something else....
Upo at the top, under the tab called User CP, you can see who gave you reps, and if they left a comment as to why they gave them to you.
To give reps to someone, just click on the little scale icon at the bottom right of their post, next to the green light that indicates if they're online or not....
See now wasnt that a helpful post? Wink wink, lol....
Upo at the top, under the tab called User CP, you can see who gave you reps, and if they left a comment as to why they gave them to you.
To give reps to someone, just click on the little scale icon at the bottom right of their post, next to the green light that indicates if they're online or not....
See now wasnt that a helpful post? Wink wink, lol....
Hey there Sukafr33, I have been trying to catch up with this grow and I'm at page 5 or so and I smoked a little and now I'm not so motivated to read but the last few pages your plants are looking very good dude, congrats. It only gets better. Everyone seems like they have you going in the right direction but I figured I could help you out with the techniflora nutes a little, I wished throughout my last grow (first grow) someone with any experience would chime in and let me know what was up with them, but I was sold on them as well with the RFS kit. The only things I would add were SM90 and hygrozyme to basically what the kit recommends.
A few things, its always best to apply the roots 66 alone seperate from any of the other nutes, I have no real information as to why but thats what the customer service suggested, only use with sugar daddy. Techniflora is a nute program that is intended for hydroponics but are acceptable for soil/soil-less use, they will produce perfect buds so dont think you have to switch until the next go round, theres no need, the more you change the more your plants are going to stress and bottom line is stress translates to more time before you are chopping buds down, so try to avoid it if you can. However, I would suggest getting a more soil or hydro specific nute for your next grow depending on what you are going to do. I just started running botanicare in my soil less, the way they are used translates easily from the techniflora line, liquid karma is like thrive alive red and a few others are very similar and basically the same type of products just different manufacturer with a little different mix, at least thats what it makes me think. Basically a complete nutrition program is what you get when you use the whole line (basically like all the other companies out there). Also, when you water or feed follow the PH instructions (seems like everyone else set you up with that info already), I think in most cases it calls for 6.1 or 6.2, stick with that and you'll be fine. But use the feed/water/water thing they suggested, if not you'll need to flush more often. Techniflora's RFS is meant to be used with either decent tap water or RO water (I am doing 50/50 ro/tap myself), I know I read that you were using spring water, I dont know if you still are or not, but I'd personally recommend against that, I hear nothing good about it, as long as you airate your water and theres no chlorine in it, you'll be ok unless you have a well, then I dont know what to say, go RO. Hydroponics is better suited to pure pure water I think, filtered/dechlorinated water is better for soil I think, at least so far anyhow. Either way though as I said, you look like you are on your way to a good harvest if you relax a little, its hard to not interact with them but trying to just let them be is the best thing you can do, also it takes days for something thats going on as far deficiencies to show in the leaves, so its going to take just as long for a remedy or a change thats going to fix it to take effect as well, just try one thing and give it 2-3 days before doing something else unless its a leaf eating virus or something...then you got bigger probs but you get the point.... as long as its not getting worse and as someone else said, if new growth looks good, your plants are growing and healthy. Most times as long as you arent over-watering, a good watering/flush and then letting them dry out good is going to fix it unless its a disease or parasite. Checking the PPM of the run off when you are plain watering will give you a good idea as to how much fertlizer is in your soil as well as long as you know whats going in, works for PH as well but be mindful of whats going in and you wont have to worry about whats coming out but it never hurts to check. If you see the new growth all burnt up and discolored, then start thinking about what needs to be changed in a hurry.
Aside from any of that with the techniflora stuff, dont believe the bullshit about not having to flush with their product or not flush often....flush often...., you need to flush and flush frequently as salt build up is a reality with those nutes (and basically all synthetic nutes to my understanding), they work great and produce great buds, just make sure you flush properly at least every 2 weeks give or take and at transitional points in the plants life, before flowering when you start feeding bloom nutes and then depending on how long flowering strain you have at least every 2-3 weeks depending on how heavy you feed. Buy stock in sugar daddy towards the end of flowering, its basically like a molasses/sweet/carbohydrate product that adds flavor in flowering and its expensive as hell, botanicare sweet is a good replacement as well as cheaper I think. They have flavored but I use the raw unflavored myself. And most importantly, do not follow the pre harvest routine, you want a minimum of a full week of flushing before harvest. If you are running a 9 week strain you want to do that pre harvest routine before the end of week 8 and then straight water or water and sugar daddy and thats it, just make sure you flush flush flush towards the end for that last week. I did all that and still had salt build up showing on the leaves but it was all good at that point, it was time to chop. Also, for the first week of flowering whatever the recommended dose of boost is stick with that and 50/50 grow/bloom + supplements after you do a pre flowering flush, 2nd feeding go with straight bloom sch.
I ended up with some really good bud (a few of my friends really like it, however I was a lot more critical of it, but it is really good knock down indica high) on top of a fairly decent yield on my first grow with the techniflora RFS, so if I can do it, it can be done by anyone. It is a decent product, but having used it, I say its a great way to start and makes feeding faily easy but there is much better products out there for soil that either cost as much, or are a bit cheaper. Not many are as easy to use as techniflora is though, so take advantage of the easy feed factor and learn about the plants and how they grow throughout their lives, dont worry so much about what brand of nutes you are feeding them and if they are organic or not. I hope in the future to grow using 100% organic soil and nutes but its worth learning with synthetic, organic is how you grow once you know how to grow efficiently, you will have plenty of time to refine your skills once you know how to give your plants what they need rather than what you think they want, if thats not the biggest lesson I learned up till now I dont know what is, that and dont even bother trying to rush anything, it aint happening... In the beginning being a new you need to much technical information and exact answers to try and formulate a recipe with organics, they make it easy buying bottles. There are some new organic products out there now though, I havent heard to much good about the organicare or general organics. All the companies will have one shortly though if not already.
Good luck, just relax a little, give your plants as much alone time as you can and you'll do fine.
A few things, its always best to apply the roots 66 alone seperate from any of the other nutes, I have no real information as to why but thats what the customer service suggested, only use with sugar daddy. Techniflora is a nute program that is intended for hydroponics but are acceptable for soil/soil-less use, they will produce perfect buds so dont think you have to switch until the next go round, theres no need, the more you change the more your plants are going to stress and bottom line is stress translates to more time before you are chopping buds down, so try to avoid it if you can. However, I would suggest getting a more soil or hydro specific nute for your next grow depending on what you are going to do. I just started running botanicare in my soil less, the way they are used translates easily from the techniflora line, liquid karma is like thrive alive red and a few others are very similar and basically the same type of products just different manufacturer with a little different mix, at least thats what it makes me think. Basically a complete nutrition program is what you get when you use the whole line (basically like all the other companies out there). Also, when you water or feed follow the PH instructions (seems like everyone else set you up with that info already), I think in most cases it calls for 6.1 or 6.2, stick with that and you'll be fine. But use the feed/water/water thing they suggested, if not you'll need to flush more often. Techniflora's RFS is meant to be used with either decent tap water or RO water (I am doing 50/50 ro/tap myself), I know I read that you were using spring water, I dont know if you still are or not, but I'd personally recommend against that, I hear nothing good about it, as long as you airate your water and theres no chlorine in it, you'll be ok unless you have a well, then I dont know what to say, go RO. Hydroponics is better suited to pure pure water I think, filtered/dechlorinated water is better for soil I think, at least so far anyhow. Either way though as I said, you look like you are on your way to a good harvest if you relax a little, its hard to not interact with them but trying to just let them be is the best thing you can do, also it takes days for something thats going on as far deficiencies to show in the leaves, so its going to take just as long for a remedy or a change thats going to fix it to take effect as well, just try one thing and give it 2-3 days before doing something else unless its a leaf eating virus or something...then you got bigger probs but you get the point.... as long as its not getting worse and as someone else said, if new growth looks good, your plants are growing and healthy. Most times as long as you arent over-watering, a good watering/flush and then letting them dry out good is going to fix it unless its a disease or parasite. Checking the PPM of the run off when you are plain watering will give you a good idea as to how much fertlizer is in your soil as well as long as you know whats going in, works for PH as well but be mindful of whats going in and you wont have to worry about whats coming out but it never hurts to check. If you see the new growth all burnt up and discolored, then start thinking about what needs to be changed in a hurry.
Aside from any of that with the techniflora stuff, dont believe the bullshit about not having to flush with their product or not flush often....flush often...., you need to flush and flush frequently as salt build up is a reality with those nutes (and basically all synthetic nutes to my understanding), they work great and produce great buds, just make sure you flush properly at least every 2 weeks give or take and at transitional points in the plants life, before flowering when you start feeding bloom nutes and then depending on how long flowering strain you have at least every 2-3 weeks depending on how heavy you feed. Buy stock in sugar daddy towards the end of flowering, its basically like a molasses/sweet/carbohydrate product that adds flavor in flowering and its expensive as hell, botanicare sweet is a good replacement as well as cheaper I think. They have flavored but I use the raw unflavored myself. And most importantly, do not follow the pre harvest routine, you want a minimum of a full week of flushing before harvest. If you are running a 9 week strain you want to do that pre harvest routine before the end of week 8 and then straight water or water and sugar daddy and thats it, just make sure you flush flush flush towards the end for that last week. I did all that and still had salt build up showing on the leaves but it was all good at that point, it was time to chop. Also, for the first week of flowering whatever the recommended dose of boost is stick with that and 50/50 grow/bloom + supplements after you do a pre flowering flush, 2nd feeding go with straight bloom sch.
I ended up with some really good bud (a few of my friends really like it, however I was a lot more critical of it, but it is really good knock down indica high) on top of a fairly decent yield on my first grow with the techniflora RFS, so if I can do it, it can be done by anyone. It is a decent product, but having used it, I say its a great way to start and makes feeding faily easy but there is much better products out there for soil that either cost as much, or are a bit cheaper. Not many are as easy to use as techniflora is though, so take advantage of the easy feed factor and learn about the plants and how they grow throughout their lives, dont worry so much about what brand of nutes you are feeding them and if they are organic or not. I hope in the future to grow using 100% organic soil and nutes but its worth learning with synthetic, organic is how you grow once you know how to grow efficiently, you will have plenty of time to refine your skills once you know how to give your plants what they need rather than what you think they want, if thats not the biggest lesson I learned up till now I dont know what is, that and dont even bother trying to rush anything, it aint happening... In the beginning being a new you need to much technical information and exact answers to try and formulate a recipe with organics, they make it easy buying bottles. There are some new organic products out there now though, I havent heard to much good about the organicare or general organics. All the companies will have one shortly though if not already.
Good luck, just relax a little, give your plants as much alone time as you can and you'll do fine.
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SuKaFr33
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thanks man, i appreciate it!!!
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SuKaFr33
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i was wondering if it was ok to go ahead and give it some nutes today instead of watering, they look like they need some but in my routine i would be just watering today and not feeding, so do you think that would be fine?? i last watered on the 21st.. let me know what you think.. thanks...
Suka, I'm definately a fan of reading the plants, so if they look like they need nutes, I'd give them some (when the ducks quack, feed them!). If you're worried about over-nuting, just give them a light dose to "hold them over" until your next scheduled feeding.
What is making them look like they need nutes? Can you post pics?
@ W - Hey Bro! I haven't seen you around in a while! Glad you finally got to harvest those monsters you were growing!
What is making them look like they need nutes? Can you post pics?
@ W - Hey Bro! I haven't seen you around in a while! Glad you finally got to harvest those monsters you were growing!
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SuKaFr33
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the bottom leaves are turnin yellow so i figure i'll give them 1/2 strength, which should be fine, also when i was takin them out the cab so i can water them i noticed one of them had pistils comin out already, how i dont know, i know i dont have any light leaks so i dont know how it happened, maybe its some kind of auto strain, like i said all the seeds came from really good bagseed, mostly like middies, so it could be posible that its an auto, i guess i'll just have to wait and see, cause im not puttin them into 12/12 for another week or 2.. so i guess i'll just have to keep an eye on it, but if you got any ideas let me know.. and thanks again for the info and help, i appreciate it!!!
the bottom leaves are turnin yellow so i figure i'll give them 1/2 strength, which should be fine, also when i was takin them out the cab so i can water them i noticed one of them had pistils comin out already, how i dont know, i know i dont have any light leaks so i dont know how it happened, maybe its some kind of auto strain, like i said all the seeds came from really good bagseed, mostly like middies, so it could be posible that its an auto, i guess i'll just have to wait and see, cause im not puttin them into 12/12 for another week or 2.. so i guess i'll just have to keep an eye on it, but if you got any ideas let me know.. and thanks again for the info and help, i appreciate it!!!
Yellowing in the lower leaves sounds like she may just want some more Nitrogen. It's not uncommon for plants to show a slight N deficiency as they're going through some rapid growth in Veg. Try giving her a little more Grow nutes, and see if it helps.
Light leaks wouldn't cause the plant to go into flower, but it may cause a hermie (remember, you need to cut the light to trigger flowering!). Most plants will show their sex in veg, if you veg them long enough. If she's under 18 (or so) hours of light and actually in flower, then most likely you have an auto.
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SuKaFr33
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well i just got done feeding them and i can tell for sure that i have 2 females so far, and the pot with 2 of them in it looks like females so far, and theres one more that looks like it could be startin a calyx on the upper nodes, im beyond happy now, finally got rid of that bug, lol the male bug, now i know for sure that i atleast got 2 for sure, and one of them i fimmed so that should turn out nice, im also contemplating if i wanna take a couple clones from each of them and try to build a little cab out of somethin and use it for veg and use the cab i got now to flower in, i dont know we'll see what happens, rite now i just need to make sure i stay ontop of them and not let nothin happen to them... i cant wait!!!! OOHH YEEAA!!!! LOL 
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SuKaFr33
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So heres alittle update, I went to go feed them and noticed on one of them that there was pistils, so i looked at the rest and noticed some on another one, also notice that 2 other ones might be forming calyxs, if you guys know how my last grow went, you can just imagine how happy i am rite now to find out that i got some females, beyond happy, I also wanna thank everybody that told me to hold on and to hang in there and be patient, cause now look at me, OOOHHHH YEEEAAAA BABBYYY!!!!! poppin pistils baby!!!!! so heres some pics of what they look like so far...
This is the one i noticed first, i didn't put pics of the second one cause you couldn't really tell in the pic, but heres the first one!!!
and heres a couple group shots...
thats it for now, let me know what you guys think...
This is the one i noticed first, i didn't put pics of the second one cause you couldn't really tell in the pic, but heres the first one!!!
and heres a couple group shots...
thats it for now, let me know what you guys think...
pilot90
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niceeee suka, congrats on your ladies my friend and wish you the best.....
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SuKaFr33
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thank you!!!
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SuKaFr33
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lol cause you know if i didn't get females this time i was gonna go ape shit lol, i am soooo happy that i finally got a female, think i might have to do the cloning thing this time around, that way i get a couple more to harvest, but i'll prolly wait and see what happens with the rest of them, but hey i still might even do it... so many choices, not enough time lol!!!! but i know one thing, whatever happens i'll still be harvestin somethin oh yeaa!!!!!
Aaron Quix
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YEPPERS Bro, 'em r some FEEEEEEMales f'sho!! Sorry for the accent, just felt like dancin a hillbilly jig there for a second. Really happy for you bud! I'll also second what Mr K. said, (As usual)
Cant wait to see how the FIM turns out!
I wouldnt say you have an auto though, lots of strains will show their sex after week 4 or so of veg, even under 24 hr light. My NL do it every time, def not autos either....They're just slutty and want to show ya what they got under their skirts!!
Cant wait to see how the FIM turns out!
I wouldnt say you have an auto though, lots of strains will show their sex after week 4 or so of veg, even under 24 hr light. My NL do it every time, def not autos either....They're just slutty and want to show ya what they got under their skirts!!
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SuKaFr33
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lol thank, and your rite it is around week 4, i believe i have them on 17/7 so that its basically on when it turns light outside and goes off when its already dark out, that way it helps prevent light leaks aswell,but yea thanks again, it was prolly all the good luck everybody gave me lol!!! or it could of been all the cursing i did at them, tellin them to turn into females or they were gonna get set on fire lol!!! im high lol so it sounded good.. and i cant wait to see how the fim job comes out too, hopefully i get a nice bit of tops.. 