Steelcurtain22: Soil, GSC - 2022

steelcurtain22 said:
Day, 24: Veg, 29 Give me a hell yeah, training is done for the week. Now with the girls…oh and the wifey, good thing she doesn’t read this journal, haha. So, Laverne(right) and Shirley(left) we’re fed last night and yesterday and looking like they’re not hating the increased nutrients. Also did a bit more trimming and now to let them bathe in the lights for the day! Took off a huge fan leaf, crazy big! Happy hump day all, stay safe!

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This post should say Day 29, Veg day 24, sorry all!
 
Day, 30: Veg, 25 Busy morning with a “to do” list and apparently so busy I forgot the main reason for needing to go out, something for new watering technique! All good as stores like 3 mins. away and girls are not ready yet anyways. Now to just keep an eye on the girls as the make their way through the net. So I adjusted my light to continue to have the top point of Laverne 24” from the light(recommended height by manufacturer), which actually leaves a distance of 25” from top of Shirley to the light. I figure that’s okay as may or may not promote Shirley to reach a bit and wouldn’t think it’d hurt any.



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I have been holding off on making this comment until you could see with your own eyes what I am talking about. A traditional old style SCROG screen is typically metal, and made out of what we call out here in the country, chicken wire. There are several sizes of this stuff, but the openings are no larger than 2 inches, and I preferred the smaller 1 or 1.5 inch openings. The toughness of the metal as compared to string and the size of the openings, made it much easier to bend the plants over at the 10" point, sending everything horizontal under the screen. You will not be able to bend branches to the horizontal until the entire branch spans and exceeds the length of one of your large openings, and that is going to take a while. This large opening screen is more of a trellis, providing for support of a vertical grow at maybe a couple of feet above the soil surface... and not really a SCROG screen as I understand it. I am hoping that you will be able to accomplish your goal of bending the plant over under the screen, but I don't think your setup has the horizontal strength needed to do this job and with the large openings a lot of your buds are going to sneak their way up to the vertical, resisting your desire to SCROG them.
 
Emilya said:
I have been holding off on making this comment until you could see with your own eyes what I am talking about. A traditional old style SCROG screen is typically metal, and made out of what we call out here in the country, chicken wire. There are several sizes of this stuff, but the openings are no larger than 2 inches, and I preferred the smaller 1 or 1.5 inch openings. The toughness of the metal as compared to string and the size of the openings, made it much easier to bend the plants over at the 10" point, sending everything horizontal under the screen. You will not be able to bend branches to the horizontal until the entire branch spans and exceeds the length of one of your large openings, and that is going to take a while. This large opening screen is more of a trellis, providing for support of a vertical grow at maybe a couple of feet above the soil surface... and not really a SCROG screen as I understand it. I am hoping that you will be able to accomplish your goal of bending the plant over under the screen, but I don't think your setup has the horizontal strength needed to do this job and with the large openings a lot of your buds are going to sneak their way up to the vertical, resisting your desire to SCROG them.
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I hear ya, and honestly have been mulling this very thing over the last few days. Even debating not even scroging, raising the net and just using to support. Also, it turns out I’ll be moving by probably May 1st or June 1st, either way it’ll be quite difficult if these gals are into the net. So I’m really really glad you spoke up Emilya. My question now is raise the net and use if or when needed and just do some lst, and could I top again?
 
steelcurtain22 said:
I hear ya, and honestly have been mulling this very thing over the last few days. Even debating not even scroging, raising the net and just using to support. Also, it turns out I’ll be moving by probably May 1st or June 1st, either way it’ll be quite difficult if these gals are into the net. So I’m really really glad you spoke up Emilya. My question now is raise the net and use if or when needed and just do some lst, and could I top again?
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I feel like I’ve lollipopped them and combined with topping I’ll still increase yield?
 
steelcurtain22 said:
I hear ya, and honestly have mulling over this very thing last few days. Even debating not even scroging, raising the net and just using to support. Also, it turns out I’ll be moving by probably May 1st or June 1st, either way it’ll be quite difficult if these gals are into the net. So I’m really really glad you spoke up Emilya. My question now is raise the net and use if or when needed?
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That seems to be the main use for a net like you have there. I would install it at about the 2/3 level and allow it to help support the plant vertically... it is a trellis.

Those of us who actually built scrog screens back in the day when people were trying to grow with very low footprints by using fluorescent lighting, can get annoyed when we see these string contraptions being called a SCROG screen. I got very satisfactory grows back then by using T5HO lights, by keeping my massive array no more than 4 inches away from a very even SCROG canopy. With a 2" screen, all vertical growth can be no more than 2" larger or smaller than the rest of canopy, and we spent hours each night tucking and weaving the branches under that screen until we were ready to go vertical. A well managed SCROG was a thing of beauty, and I remember several times getting almost a pound of product by using only two plants and a 3x4 screen, under a 2x4 T5HO purple fluorescent light. My screen was made from PVC pipe and chicken wire, and it was a sturdy thing along with its support system, that was able to be used over and over again.
steelcurtain22 said:
I feel like I’ve lollipopped them and combined with topping I’ll still increase yield?
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Oh yeah... and you will get better and better at this with each grow.
 
Emilya said:
That seems to be the main use for a net like you have there. I would install it at about the 2/3 level and allow it to help support the plant vertically... it is a trellis.

Those of us who actually built scrog screens back in the day when people were trying to grow with very low footprints by using fluorescent lighting, can get annoyed when we see these string contraptions being called a SCROG screen. I got very satisfactory grows back then by using T5HO lights, by keeping my massive array no more than 4 inches away from a very even SCROG canopy. With a 2" screen, all vertical growth can be no more than 2" larger or smaller than the rest of canopy, and we spent hours each night tucking and weaving the branches under that screen until we were ready to go vertical. A well managed SCROG was a thing of beauty, and I remember several times getting almost a pound of product by using only two plants and a 3x4 screen, under a 2x4 T5HO purple fluorescent light. My screen was made from PVC pipe and chicken wire, and it was a sturdy thing along with its support system, that was able to be used over and over again.

Oh yeah... and you will get better and better at this with each grow.
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Well, switching gears, raised the net, and trimmed the girls but Shirley looks a little off? Sure I’ve stressed them out, so will leave them alone now. I don’t think I’m ready to do a scrog but will seriously look into in the new place. Sounds like I know which member will be my go to when that happens! Lol I’ll have a empty new unfinished basement to work with. Not excited about having to move during this grow but I’ll manage and am excited to expand. My next thing is just getting a 2X4 tent to use only for veg, and 4X4 for flowering! I have a blurple 100w LED that I can use.

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Day, 31: Veg, day 26 Happy Friday all, so Laverne and Shirley look a little more refreshed to start today. Will start watching for next feeding but judging by the current weight of both its a ways off yet and it’s been just going on 3 days since they were watered last.

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Day, 32: Veg, day 27 So I thought maybe Laverne would be ready for a feeding but nope, 3 full days since last feeding but thinking she’ll be ready later later tonight which would put her at roughly 3.5 days between watering’s. Shirley is at a slower pace and will probably be later on tomorrow, she may be more on a 4 full days between. Haha, Emilya you may find this interesting. So because now I am not scrogging, I have the ability to weight the girls. So just out of curiosity, it turned out that last watering worked good as Laverne was just fed and weight 12lbs at max. Shirley was dry and ready for watering (both 3g pots) and she weighed between 4-5lbs. As it stands, Laverne is just at 5lbs, going to feed at 4lbs. Shirley is at 9lbs still. So it seems it’s fairly accurate on weight to where I feel lift wise. Also figured out that they drink about 7-8lbs per feeding which is equivalent to about 3-3.5litres which seems close as both had a bit left in their 4L bottles. Not sure this is worth doing but as I say, curiosity got the better of me, lol. Happy Saturday all! stay safe!

Took a few extra pics from a different angle for kicks!

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