Hi young Lady!
Take a look in my old journal...there's a story there!
Take a look in my old journal...there's a story there!
Sqwheels' Perpetual 2L Hempy + Moms
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lookin sharp Sqweels!
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Hi OMM,
Which journal? I've read them all except the super lemon haze. Is that the one you're talking about?
The Airpot Perpetual took me weeks to read, and I was there at the beginning for both the indoor grows. I was afraid the SLH would be as long as the Perpetual so I didn't even start it. I can't hardly keep up with the subs I have...and your journals are huge.
Which journal? I've read them all except the super lemon haze. Is that the one you're talking about?
The Airpot Perpetual took me weeks to read, and I was there at the beginning for both the indoor grows. I was afraid the SLH would be as long as the Perpetual so I didn't even start it. I can't hardly keep up with the subs I have...and your journals are huge.
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Thanks Bassman, I'm just gonna keep experimenting until I find a good setup for me.
Hi OMM,
Which journal? I've read them all except the super lemon haze. Is that the one you're talking about?
The Airpot Perpetual took me weeks to read, and I was there at the beginning for both the indoor grows. I was afraid the SLH would be as long as the Perpetual so I didn't even start it. I can't hardly keep up with the subs I have...and your journals are huge.
The one that I just finished......where folks are still posting.
No stories in the Lemon Haze one. It's not much anyway.
sqwheels,
You're now at a point where I look up to you for learning to grow....
I'm in no position to really suggest things, but with your mobility issues, I'd like to think a single reservoir for you to maintain, with a wicking hydro system and a scrog would really up your yields. What I like about my setup is that it's pretty much 'set it, forget it', and once I get a scrog frame built, I won't have to mess with anything except training foliage back under the screen, then flipping. Only one reservoir to maintain.
Just my two cents', probably worth less in this economy!
- JZ
You're now at a point where I look up to you for learning to grow....
I'm in no position to really suggest things, but with your mobility issues, I'd like to think a single reservoir for you to maintain, with a wicking hydro system and a scrog would really up your yields. What I like about my setup is that it's pretty much 'set it, forget it', and once I get a scrog frame built, I won't have to mess with anything except training foliage back under the screen, then flipping. Only one reservoir to maintain.
Just my two cents', probably worth less in this economy!
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Hi JZ,
Wow, such praise...thanks so much, I appreciate it. I can be taught, and y'all here are great teachers.
I really want to stay away from reseviors, I don't want to have that to deal with, water changes, hauling that water, leaky connections, and space all play a part in that decission. I have no doubt it's a great way to grow really nice plants...but I don't want to do it that way.
Thanks for the input
That was funny...ya, 2 cents ain't worth what it used to be
Wow, such praise...thanks so much, I appreciate it. I can be taught, and y'all here are great teachers.
I really want to stay away from reseviors, I don't want to have that to deal with, water changes, hauling that water, leaky connections, and space all play a part in that decission. I have no doubt it's a great way to grow really nice plants...but I don't want to do it that way.
Thanks for the input
That was funny...ya, 2 cents ain't worth what it used to be
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OMM,
yep, I'm still reading that one too. They never end. Love it!
yep, I'm still reading that one too. They never end.
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Ok, so I'm working on a theory...I could really use some input/advice. Something I read somewhere here @ 420 the other day makes me think this may be a good idea.
Y'all know I'm trying to get my girls to produce a little more, the single cola and my limited plant #'s, all that stuff...and now summer is coming...fast!
The clones I just cut are now showing signs of growth, I'm sure they have a developed root system now...this is when I moved them to 12/12 last time 'round. This time I'm going to veg a little longer and top before the switch...hoping for mulitiple colas this time.
so here's the thing...if I move them into the flower room for several hours daily, while waiting for them to grow, will the MH in the flower room help them grow faster? vs letting them veg under the cfl's?
I'm now worried about the summer months ... it's gonna be in the mid to upper 70's here for the next 10 days, very unusual for MI this time of year. I hope this isn't a precurser to what this summer holds.
Now that I've proof read this...it seems like a no brainer...but I'd like confirmation, please Thanks
Y'all know I'm trying to get my girls to produce a little more, the single cola and my limited plant #'s, all that stuff...and now summer is coming...fast!
The clones I just cut are now showing signs of growth, I'm sure they have a developed root system now...this is when I moved them to 12/12 last time 'round. This time I'm going to veg a little longer and top before the switch...hoping for mulitiple colas this time.
so here's the thing...if I move them into the flower room for several hours daily, while waiting for them to grow, will the MH in the flower room help them grow faster? vs letting them veg under the cfl's?
I'm now worried about the summer months ... it's gonna be in the mid to upper 70's here for the next 10 days, very unusual for MI this time of year. I hope this isn't a precurser to what this summer holds.
Now that I've proof read this...it seems like a no brainer...but I'd like confirmation, please
Thanks
Mrgivemethat
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Yea sqwheels it will help them grow faster I run hps in my veg room and growth is fast but at 300 watts, 150w x 2 I love it maybe even growing to fast trying to make them mh but I really dont wanna have to open them and unhook the ignitor and the conversion bulbs for 150s cost as much as the light setup itself
Agreed...just make sure you take them out before the dark period!
Just because there always has to be one guy that goes the other way, and I like to be that lone objection even if I don't mean it:
1. How many cfl's of what wattage for how many clones are you talking?
2. Are you using dual spectrums of cfl's? ( I use 2 under each reflector, a 6500k and a 2700k for veg)
3. If you're using 23-26w cfl's, is going to 40w or even 100w or 200w cfl an option?
Were you thinking a while back of going GLR? I can't recall.
As far as topping goes, I think I would top with the idea I wouldnt move to veg for a week after at least. Gives it more time for the top to develop. But maybe fim would be even better?
1. How many cfl's of what wattage for how many clones are you talking?
2. Are you using dual spectrums of cfl's? ( I use 2 under each reflector, a 6500k and a 2700k for veg)
3. If you're using 23-26w cfl's, is going to 40w or even 100w or 200w cfl an option?
Were you thinking a while back of going GLR? I can't recall.
As far as topping goes, I think I would top with the idea I wouldnt move to veg for a week after at least. Gives it more time for the top to develop. But maybe fim would be even better?
I'm with Bassman59.
I seem to veg much better with a mixed spectrum of CFLs.
I seem to veg much better with a mixed spectrum of CFLs.
I agree, they should grow faster, but I also think an additional benefit is that you could gradually increase the duration and intensity of the light so than when you are ready to flower, you can really "put the spurs to em", and not worry about scorching the little ladies.
Tell me about it! My grow room has been in the low 80s this week! I'm a little worried myself. The last time I remember a really bad winter followed by a really warm winter (like we just had) was around 15 years ago. That following summer was ridiculous! We even had a week where it was over 100° almost every day. I had a friend from Florida staying with me at the time. He was like "I've got to get back to FL... It's too friggin hot up here!".
Edit: I thought I should add that I currently have my bonsai moms under a 1k MH, and while I haven't thought enough about it to really explain why, I think I prefer the way they grow under 6500k fluoros, whether CFLs or T5HOs... Nothing to do with how fast they grow. Something with the node spacing maybe? The just seem "happier" to me. Of course I am talking mothers that are LSTed and super-cropped half to death, so maybe with all that stress they handle the fluoros well, but the HID lighting is a little much? Oh well, like I said..I just thought I should tell you that.
IGrowGrass
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I think they'll veg fine under flourescents if you have enough wattage on them and have them placed appropriately, but the advantages Vapedog and others pointed out are valid, too. You'll get benefit from bringing them in there for part of the day, but it seems like a bit of extra work and things to remember - but if you're willing to do the extra shuffling, they might take off a little faster.
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Mr.GMT,
I thought so...
Mr. Krip,
Yes, moving them back and forth between the two rooms...keeping them lit by the 12/1 cycle.
Hi Bass,
"Just because there always has to be one guy that goes the other way, and I like to be that lone objection even if I don't mean it" This made me laugh out loud 'cause I know you are ..."that one guy"...and love it!
8 clones all in 2L hempy. I'm using 2x23w, one of each spectrum in a 12" round metal reflector, in a 2x2 footprint. Along with mothers, so I really don't want to put bigger more w's in there.
Yes, I've been using GLR 12/1 for over a month now.
the topping/fim/ubt thing ... I don't know what you want to call what I've been doing ... probably a little of everything now, between the mom I just put into flower, with all her trimming and tying, and the seedlings I've ubt'd, to get 4 or 6 symetrical colas, and the clones I've taken, I'm not sure where fim fits into all that ???
Anyway my plan is to let them veg long enough to get a little branch growth, then clip the top, so those branches will stretch into colas when I do switch to flower. I'm trying to hurry them along to that point...
That's why I was wondering about the mix lighting...It will go something like this, while the lights are on in the flower room I'll move the clones there and when those lights are out, I'll move them back to the veg room. They'll get 12 hours, or close to it, of 400wMH and 1 hour of mix spectrum 23w cfl's.
OMM,
Yep I know, it's because of your grow journal that I decided to try that.
Vape,
I haven't had any issues with the switch damaging my girls mostly because it's only 400w MH in a 24"x32" air cooled hood w/glass...I can stick my arm up under there 1" from the glass and it's not hot except right under the bulb itself and I just arrange them so no plant sits directly in that hot spot.
Yesterday, the first day I left them on the floor, about 2-1/2 foot from the light, today I will put them on the tabletop , about 16" from the light, if they show any signs of wilting I'll move them farther away.
Ya, the weather has been wild the last year here...last summer we had several weeks in the upper 90's, usually we get a couple days here and there. It wreaked havoc in my grow...hermies and all, man I don't want those problems again, and this winter has been nearly non existant, now it's in the upper 70-80 and it's only mid March...WOW! It was all I could do yesterday not to go out into my yard and start clearing all the winter debris from my flower beds. The general rule here is wait til Mothers Day.
Hi IGG,
to my journal!
Happy to have your input...thanks for the compliment.
Hi X,
Good to see you...the extra work will be worth it ... if it will cut even a week off the total time it's gonna take me to get them into flower the way I want them...with a little branching to increase the yield over a single cola, but still finish before the hot summer months...no more hermies!!!
Ok, thanks to everyone who gave ideas about this subject...much appreciated!! I'm going to move them between the two rooms for a few days and see what happens...it's all about experimenting with me I guess.
As always I'll be watching them close and post all my observations...and questions
I thought so...
Mr. Krip,
Yes, moving them back and forth between the two rooms...keeping them lit by the 12/1 cycle.
Hi Bass,
"Just because there always has to be one guy that goes the other way, and I like to be that lone objection even if I don't mean it" This made me laugh out loud
'cause I know you are ..."that one guy"...and love it!8 clones all in 2L hempy. I'm using 2x23w, one of each spectrum in a 12" round metal reflector, in a 2x2 footprint. Along with mothers, so I really don't want to put bigger more w's in there.
Yes, I've been using GLR 12/1 for over a month now.
the topping/fim/ubt thing ... I don't know what you want to call what I've been doing ... probably a little of everything now, between the mom I just put into flower, with all her trimming and tying, and the seedlings I've ubt'd, to get 4 or 6 symetrical colas, and the clones I've taken, I'm not sure where fim fits into all that
??? Anyway my plan is to let them veg long enough to get a little branch growth, then clip the top, so those branches will stretch into colas when I do switch to flower. I'm trying to hurry them along to that point...
That's why I was wondering about the mix lighting...It will go something like this, while the lights are on in the flower room I'll move the clones there and when those lights are out, I'll move them back to the veg room. They'll get 12 hours, or close to it, of 400wMH and 1 hour of mix spectrum 23w cfl's.
OMM,
Yep I know, it's because of your grow journal that I decided to try that.
Vape,
I haven't had any issues with the switch damaging my girls mostly because it's only 400w MH in a 24"x32" air cooled hood w/glass...I can stick my arm up under there 1" from the glass and it's not hot except right under the bulb itself and I just arrange them so no plant sits directly in that hot spot.
Yesterday, the first day I left them on the floor, about 2-1/2 foot from the light, today I will put them on the tabletop , about 16" from the light, if they show any signs of wilting I'll move them farther away.
Ya, the weather has been wild the last year here...last summer we had several weeks in the upper 90's, usually we get a couple days here and there. It wreaked havoc in my grow...hermies and all, man I don't want those problems again, and this winter has been nearly non existant, now it's in the upper 70-80 and it's only mid March...WOW! It was all I could do yesterday not to go out into my yard and start clearing all the winter debris from my flower beds. The general rule here is wait til Mothers Day.
Hi IGG,
to my journal! Happy to have your input...thanks for the compliment.
Hi X,
Good to see you...the extra work will be worth it ... if it will cut even a week off the total time it's gonna take me to get them into flower the way I want them...with a little branching to increase the yield over a single cola, but still finish before the hot summer months...no more hermies!!!
Ok, thanks to everyone who gave ideas about this subject...much appreciated!!
I'm going to move them between the two rooms for a few days and see what happens...it's all about experimenting with me I guess. As always I'll be watching them close and post all my observations...and questions
Hi Sqwheels!
It's been so much fun following your journals and progress. I'm continually impressed by how quickly you've gotten comfortable and confident with growing. As far as the gals - they'll be just fine with the mix of lighting and reward you for the extra effort I think.
Hope you are well my dear!
It's been so much fun following your journals and progress. I'm continually impressed by how quickly you've gotten comfortable and confident with growing. As far as the gals - they'll be just fine with the mix of lighting and reward you for the extra effort I think.
Hope you are well my dear!
I'm bowing out of this conversation, as my methods as I develop them, are no longer in line with what others are doing. I wish you luck sqwheels!
And agreed, the MI spring is already hot (to me), I have my A/C unit on right now!
Chicken