Smokey0418 DWC Grow Journal 2021

Its a much better morning .

After doubting my fertilizer as the issue for my ph , I read a post were @Tokin Roll mention that residual nutes could be held in root, which in my case the nutes do make the ph go down.

So the past few days was just that ph drifts as she worked her way back to normal.

This mornings ph 6.22 this is were it was left yesterday as I expected a dip.

I have now ph'd down to 6.0 ( bit higher for veg then 5.8 for flower)

Ppm stays 405 .

Solution has gone down a bit more.

Thx @Rexer for standing up for my nutes . The lids I painted for heat and reflection but that was mistake as it has flaked and I get a few pieces in my solution every once in a while.

I mentioned in an earlier post , things will change for the next time around, bulkheads and lids from cc would make it better.

Be back in 12 with another update ,Thanks for stopping by Smokey0418
 
Glad to see things are back under control! Things should be smoother going forward!

Thanks WH and Mr.S!
 
Steady as she goes .
Recalibrated pen and we get
6.1 ph
410 ppm
Nutrient level down 1.5 inches

Nothing to do but “ Keep on Tucking”

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She looking good @Smokey0418

Are you still in veg?

If you are you may want to think about switching to flower.
The stretch will fill your net nicely. Net might be a little small, but it will fill up.

This is how you will learn scrogging, next time you will have a better idea of net size by the stretch.
After the sketch your net is going to look very impressive. :thumb:

Also, you may want to start increasing your flowering nutrient slowly.

Last thing, can you lower your bucket temps any?

Tok..
 
@Tokin Roll ,Yes still in veg , I just needed this resolved before I turned.

Scrogging is new to me and just did a read and they recommend 50-60 percent , So Yes I am close or there.

Now the Next step is to make sure I mix my fert correctly.

I have read so many approaches and ran so many numbers and come up with so many results , so I will lay it all out.

I'm sure you have heard or your possibly using the Cannastats calculator and read there article about a balanced profile, 100N-100P-200K-60Mg.

I use this calculator and can come up with a close result.

eg. 100N-52P-164K-36Mg-82Ca at 442PPm(700)
or 101N-59P-186K-28Mg-61Ca at 435 ppm (700)


So that would be about 320 ppm on the 500 so that seems a bit low considering its working quite well at 400ppm

Maybe I should just Add the calmag 4-5 per gal , that should only take up 85 ppm then just add straight bloom to 400 ppm , that would be 100 ppm over but I think this is the way to not fight the ph .
 
@Tokin Roll

I had the same idea with the probe but now have a total makeover in mind and will just run what i've got.
I have the air conditioning on a bit more and temp has dropped to 79 in my room so I believe the water should too since its on the cement.
Next time much more user friendly .
 
24 hrs has passed.
6.22 ph
320ppm ( she was hungry)
Water level is down maybe another 1/2 inch.
I’m getting ready to flower so nutrient change tonight.

6 gallons of water
20ml calmag
25ml bloom
total ppm 418
Ph 6.02

I will veg plants for a couple more days just hoping fertilizer stays somewhat stable.
Then we will get this started.

All tucked in till morning.

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9 Hours since tote change

Ph 5.22
418 ppm

Seems a bit hot , so there was bit of room under my pot so I added Ro to the bottom , hoping that's enough and if not I will remove some in another 12hr.

Ph 6.02
380 ppm
couple more % on the light around 55
and a couple of tucks for now.
 
While spending time reading every angle you can search I came across a few giveaways hear and there and wouldn’t you know they are real.
The mailman arrived bringing gifts from abroad.
A big shout out to The Vault and Ace Seeds I have some new bling for my tent , plus some Bangi Haze fems

Thank you

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Smokey0418 said:
While spending time reading every angle you can search I came across a few giveaways hear and there and wouldn’t you know they are real.
The mailman arrived bringing gifts from abroad.
A big shout out to The Vault and Ace Seeds I have some new bling for my tent , plus some Bangi Haze fems

Thank you

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No excuses now.
Let's see some of those babies popping.
Bill
 
Ok, the ph is falling again , perhaps I should have added a bit of bloom to my last tote , but there is no r&d in that.

so I removed a gallon to replace with ro with a tiny bit of calmag so it’s not empty.
I believe she looks a bit darker but not burning by any means.
Since it’s going through the scale,
Ph 6.2
Ppm 355
Getting a bit bigger, some side branches gaining traction from the net.

More tucking to let those little shoots see the light .
Made a late call and changed the light schedule should start to get easier to go from block to block in the day’s ahead.
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Hey @Rexer I noticed your awake.
Can you look at this again please.
The leaves are curling and she just doesn't look right.
If it were soil I'd say over watered, but dwc.
Is it oxygen levels maby.
Not my forte.
Thanks
Bill
 
Smokey0418 said:
@Tokin Roll ,Yes still in veg , I just needed this resolved before I turned.

Scrogging is new to me and just did a read and they recommend 50-60 percent , So Yes I am close or there.

Now the Next step is to make sure I mix my fert correctly.

I have read so many approaches and ran so many numbers and come up with so many results , so I will lay it all out.

I'm sure you have heard or your possibly using the Cannastats calculator and read there article about a balanced profile, 100N-100P-200K-60Mg.

I use this calculator and can come up with a close result.

eg. 100N-52P-164K-36Mg-82Ca at 442PPm(700)
or 101N-59P-186K-28Mg-61Ca at 435 ppm (700)


So that would be about 320 ppm on the 500 so that seems a bit low considering its working quite well at 400ppm

Maybe I should just Add the calmag 4-5 per gal , that should only take up 85 ppm then just add straight bloom to 400 ppm , that would be 100 ppm over but I think this is the way to not fight the ph .
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I'm not going to lie, this post confuses me.
Go by the manufacturers recommendations, and increase as needed. There is something wrong imo when you see a drop in PH unless accompanied by a large feeding, even then...I'd love to hear others more experienced thoughts, I'm at a loss

Smokey0418 said:
Ok, the ph is falling again , perhaps I should have added a bit of bloom to my last tote , but there is no r&d in that.
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don't get into R&D just yet my friend, wait till you've got jars filled first!
Smokey0418 said:
so I removed a gallon to replace with ro with a tiny bit of calmag so it’s not empty.
I believe she looks a bit darker but not burning by any means.
Since it’s going through the scale,
Ph 6.2
Ppm 355
Getting a bit bigger, some side branches gaining traction from the net.

More tucking to let those little shoots see the light .
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My recommendation? Do a full flush using RO water with about 80PPM cal mag (ph 5.8). Drain, then remix your res.

make sure when mixing your reservoir to do things in a proper order, and allow each additive to mix fully for a bit before adding the next.
Smokey0418 said:
Made a late call and changed the light schedule should start to get easier to go from block to block in the day’s ahead.
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I only know autos, but there is something amiss...
 
Rexer said:
don't get into R&D just yet my friend, wait till you've got jars filled first
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in the past when it was time for flower I would just do that, change nutes and flower, after changing my tote I then realized @ Tokin Roll may have been implying, to add a small amount of bloom as the transition begins, which I probably could have done. So moving forward I would consider that.

Light cycle has been changed so I don’t want to interrupt, but I am interested in the ph this morning.

Yes there was a slight claw to the leaf in the morning yesterday when at 400 ppm but later in the evening after lowering to 350 it’s a bit better.

The ph did not crash overnight but did fall a bit to 5.66, so I put a few drops of up in there taking it back to 6.0 and will do a better look over tonight.

Enjoy and stay cool.
 
@Rexer ,
make sure when mixing your reservoir to do things in a proper order, and allow each additive to mix fully for a bit before adding the next.

I mix my calmag first then add bloom to the ppm.
Using the recommended amounts would be 5ml of calmag to ro water and then 25ml of bloom.
This mixture came to 418 ppm but as I mentioned, it crashed my ph and seems a bit hot, so I have lowered but removing the gallon then replacing with just ro may have been just fine, but knowing I only put 4 ml per gallon of calmag on my original mix I thought maybe I will put 1-1.5 ml of calmag in it, was maybe 20 points.

Enjoy Smokey0418
 
Smokey0418 said:
@Rexer ,
make sure when mixing your reservoir to do things in a proper order, and allow each additive to mix fully for a bit before adding the next.

I mix my calmag first then add bloom to the ppm.
Using the recommended amounts would be 5ml of calmag to ro water and then 25ml of bloom.
This mixture came to 418 ppm but as I mentioned, it crashed my ph and seems a bit hot, so I have lowered but removing the gallon then replacing with just ro may have been just fine, but knowing I only put 4 ml per gallon of calmag on my original mix I thought maybe I will put 1-1.5 ml of calmag in it, was maybe 20 points.

Enjoy Smokey0418
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Well Smokey, I'm at a loss as to what's going on. Generally in my limited experience, a falling ph can be a sign of algea or other bacteria, or plant leaching nutrients back in ?, or nutes mixed incorrectly or an extra large feeding with residuals. Doesn't mean that it's not something else, just I'm not sure what, @Tokin Roll has been doing this much longer and might have some better advice.
Aside from the clawing, is there any other signs on the leafs as to what's going on? Rust colored patches?
 
My questions would be temperature's.

What is tent temp and RH?

What is your solution temp?

Are you using Hydro-Guard or Z9 for high water temps?
 
Solution was 72.8 f goes up maybe 2 degrees through the day, I used a couple frozen Gatorade bottles yesterday but did not do much if anything.
Rh is closer to 60% I have been keeping the humidifier topped up.
Probably more at night, have a inkbird to log this but it’s still in the box.
Ac infinity on wall works and the mini one I have seen some higher results at night.
 
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