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SmokerJoe
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1/8 inch 1/4 inch 1/2 inch 3/4 1 inch
SmokerJoe's Indoor Organic Soil Bagseed Grow
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joedaddy805
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ok ill get on it tomorrow hopefully. once i plant them they should sprout within 48 hrs
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SmokerJoe
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Ok cool. Thank you
lightning good question id like to know that too even tho lightning can be infrequent here
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Thanks joedaddy. Im curious as to depth of the seed delays germination and which depths sprout sooner shallow or deep. I dont think the one planted at a inch will have the stored energy to break soil but its just a assumption.
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Thank you cronic. Hopefully we will get a answer soon.
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SmokerJoe
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Maybe uptheholler is around to answer.
joedaddy805
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ok so i started it today. i did 1/8,1/4,1/2,3/4, 1" i also just put one on top of the soil and then just put enough soil to cover it. so hopefully we will se what happens in the next few days.
They are in order shallow on the left to deeper on the right. the last one is the one with just enough soil to cover it.
They are in order shallow on the left to deeper on the right. the last one is the one with just enough soil to cover it.
MikeTbob
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Great idea guys. I sure hope I was at least close to being right. 
joedaddy805
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no popping up yet
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that's a way to find out 
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SmokerJoe
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What type of light are you germinating under?
joedaddy805
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None I never use light till they pop up
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Alright well keep us posted
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Why do you use a light when you are germinating
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The plants search for the light once they break from seed. I dont give them 24 hour light. I notice when I give them the normal 18 hours on and 6 off that they sprout faster then all dark until they germinate. Less chance of some rot killing the seed due to overwater with lights off combined is asking for a mold issue to occur overnight. The light helps to dry the soil at a even rate.
M1DRAGONACE
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IMO Lightning does not sustain a long enough Light emission to effect the plants hormones, I wouldn't say its even as bad as a few light leaks in an indoor grow or just as bad as all the light that is still present around an outdoor plant anyhow.
People that are truly concerned with this factor try to cover their plants with something to block out light, Tho I have tried this with a control plant as well I can see no benefit. Many growers including myself believe the light intensity of the moon and such is so low the plant actually adapts to the continuous light (ignores it).-
Indoor light leaks can be so devastating because we trained out plants to be in darkness for so long and light for so long, however the intensity dose not change like it does outside, So for the plant small amounts of light in the dark phase can throw them off.
I knew a grower who kept a green LED bulb on 24/7 6-7 foot above his plants and light leaks become no problem for his grow, I could see the light from the room beside but his yields do not suffer. (Note if you were to use a green light be sure it is a light emitting the green spectrum NOT a green glass/plastic bulb over a normal light because the glass will ware down and let that light through.
As always everyone have a good day and I love to hear your opinions, nice thread joe
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People that are truly concerned with this factor try to cover their plants with something to block out light, Tho I have tried this with a control plant as well I can see no benefit. Many growers including myself believe the light intensity of the moon and such is so low the plant actually adapts to the continuous light (ignores it).-
Indoor light leaks can be so devastating because we trained out plants to be in darkness for so long and light for so long, however the intensity dose not change like it does outside, So for the plant small amounts of light in the dark phase can throw them off.
I knew a grower who kept a green LED bulb on 24/7 6-7 foot above his plants and light leaks become no problem for his grow, I could see the light from the room beside but his yields do not suffer. (Note if you were to use a green light be sure it is a light emitting the green spectrum NOT a green glass/plastic bulb over a normal light because the glass will ware down and let that light through.
As always everyone have a good day and I love to hear your opinions, nice thread joe
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I have 1 more addition to your thread joe, IF anyone has or is willing to try this, TALK TO ME! I read this a while back and have given thought on trying it just have not played it out yet. I'm just going to copy and paste. Tell me what you all think of this
"Superior Cannabis gardens are what gardeners want for their efforts, and planting by the phases of the Moon makes this possible.
Seeds germinate faster. Plants are hardier and more disease-resistant. They blossom sooner and bear more fruit.
Just as importantly, they better resist the stress of harsh weather, drought and insect infestation.
Naturally, good gardening techniques must still be adhered to. Gardens need be watered, pruned, mulched, hoed, weeded and fertilized. If you have an outside or in side cannabis garden, paying attention to the Moon phases may be the easiest part of your cannabis gardening experience but the one with the biggest rewards for growing marijuana.
Moon Cycle for Marijuana Growing
Gardening by the moon phases is all a matter of timing. Since we are able to anticipate the phases, we can plan ahead and maximize the connection between the solar system and biological cycles to gain optimum results in the cannabis garden.
The Moon symbolizes emotions, instincts, habits and routine. It describes the ways in which we feel most nurtured and secure. The Moon also reflects the public mood as it changes signs every two to two and half days.
The Moon travels monthly through each of the 12 signs of the Zodiac, staying approximately 2 and a half days in each sign. As it does so it forms an angular relationship with the Sun that we call a Phase of the Moon. Phase actually means the angle between Moon, Earth and Sun. Moon orbits the Earth and the Earth orbits the Sun. It is the Earth’s orbit that defines the ecliptic which is divided symbolically into the Zodiac.
First of all, phases occur in two stages – Waxing and Waning.
The Moon is Waxing – growing – during these phases: New Moon | Crescent Moon | First quarter Moon | Gibbous Moon.
It is Waning – shrinking – during these phases: Full Moon | Disseminating | Second Quarter | Balsamic.
As a general rule of thumb when the Moon is waxing, plants develop leaves and above ground systems, when it is waning plants develop their root systems.
Planting leafy crops such as cannabis that grow above ground are best sown at waxing moon and those that will require strong root systems or grow below ground should be sown after full moon, in the waning phase.
We can now divide these phases into four quarters.
1. New Moon to First quarter
2. First quarter to Full Moon
3. Waxing Full Moon to Second quarter
4. Second quarter to New Moon again – Waning
These 4 phases can be useful to apply the rule of thumb Plant | Feed Harvest | Destroy
If you get these 4 main quarters fixed, you will go a long way to understanding cycles.
The 4 intermediate phases also form a quaternary of activity.
1. Crescent
2. Gibbous
3. Disseminating
4. Balsamic
Crescent moon phase is when the best germination occurs and is a good time for thinning out seedlings to give room for the rapid growth that occurs at the next phase.
Gibbous moon phase is when there is a greater uptake of nutrients from the soil, and swelling of fruits.
Disseminating moon is an excellent time for seed setting and ripening.
Balsamic phase is the best time for destroying weeds, pruning trees, and all preparation for the next cycle.
It is important to note that you should not do any gardening task at the exact time of a phase. Wait a few hours. Each of the exact phase positions marks a critical time as the moon makes a shift from one phase to the next.
Because the Sun stays in a sign for a full month there are some months that are better for certain gardening tasks than others. Interfacing the Sun cycle and the Moon’s cycle takes a little skill but is not 1 difficult once you apply the logic.
If the Sun is in a ‘fertile’ sign for a month, then you should take advantage of that month to do some gardening – naturally the best results occur when the Moon is also is a fertile sign and the correct phase with the Sun. The best days for doing specific tasks will depend on the Moon’s sign. To synthesize the phase with the sign is important in planting. There is no point in planting at the correct phase, if the Moon is in an incompatible sign – one which might damage or inhibit growth.
Remember the Sun stays in a sign for approximately a month, the Moon passes through all 12 signs in a month, so stays in a sign for approximately 2 and a half days. A new moon always occurs when the Sun and Moon are in the same sign. A full moon occurs when the Moon is in the opposite sign to the Sun."
Its something I feel is less talked about because I have not see anything on the 420 following these methods however maybe I didn't look hard enough! I know I snagged joe's sniffer on this lol Have a great day guys!
"Superior Cannabis gardens are what gardeners want for their efforts, and planting by the phases of the Moon makes this possible.
Seeds germinate faster. Plants are hardier and more disease-resistant. They blossom sooner and bear more fruit.
Just as importantly, they better resist the stress of harsh weather, drought and insect infestation.
Naturally, good gardening techniques must still be adhered to. Gardens need be watered, pruned, mulched, hoed, weeded and fertilized. If you have an outside or in side cannabis garden, paying attention to the Moon phases may be the easiest part of your cannabis gardening experience but the one with the biggest rewards for growing marijuana.
Moon Cycle for Marijuana Growing
Gardening by the moon phases is all a matter of timing. Since we are able to anticipate the phases, we can plan ahead and maximize the connection between the solar system and biological cycles to gain optimum results in the cannabis garden.
The Moon symbolizes emotions, instincts, habits and routine. It describes the ways in which we feel most nurtured and secure. The Moon also reflects the public mood as it changes signs every two to two and half days.
The Moon travels monthly through each of the 12 signs of the Zodiac, staying approximately 2 and a half days in each sign. As it does so it forms an angular relationship with the Sun that we call a Phase of the Moon. Phase actually means the angle between Moon, Earth and Sun. Moon orbits the Earth and the Earth orbits the Sun. It is the Earth’s orbit that defines the ecliptic which is divided symbolically into the Zodiac.
First of all, phases occur in two stages – Waxing and Waning.
The Moon is Waxing – growing – during these phases: New Moon | Crescent Moon | First quarter Moon | Gibbous Moon.
It is Waning – shrinking – during these phases: Full Moon | Disseminating | Second Quarter | Balsamic.
As a general rule of thumb when the Moon is waxing, plants develop leaves and above ground systems, when it is waning plants develop their root systems.
Planting leafy crops such as cannabis that grow above ground are best sown at waxing moon and those that will require strong root systems or grow below ground should be sown after full moon, in the waning phase.
We can now divide these phases into four quarters.
1. New Moon to First quarter
2. First quarter to Full Moon
3. Waxing Full Moon to Second quarter
4. Second quarter to New Moon again – Waning
These 4 phases can be useful to apply the rule of thumb Plant | Feed Harvest | Destroy
If you get these 4 main quarters fixed, you will go a long way to understanding cycles.
The 4 intermediate phases also form a quaternary of activity.
1. Crescent
2. Gibbous
3. Disseminating
4. Balsamic
Crescent moon phase is when the best germination occurs and is a good time for thinning out seedlings to give room for the rapid growth that occurs at the next phase.
Gibbous moon phase is when there is a greater uptake of nutrients from the soil, and swelling of fruits.
Disseminating moon is an excellent time for seed setting and ripening.
Balsamic phase is the best time for destroying weeds, pruning trees, and all preparation for the next cycle.
It is important to note that you should not do any gardening task at the exact time of a phase. Wait a few hours. Each of the exact phase positions marks a critical time as the moon makes a shift from one phase to the next.
Because the Sun stays in a sign for a full month there are some months that are better for certain gardening tasks than others. Interfacing the Sun cycle and the Moon’s cycle takes a little skill but is not 1 difficult once you apply the logic.
If the Sun is in a ‘fertile’ sign for a month, then you should take advantage of that month to do some gardening – naturally the best results occur when the Moon is also is a fertile sign and the correct phase with the Sun. The best days for doing specific tasks will depend on the Moon’s sign. To synthesize the phase with the sign is important in planting. There is no point in planting at the correct phase, if the Moon is in an incompatible sign – one which might damage or inhibit growth.
Remember the Sun stays in a sign for approximately a month, the Moon passes through all 12 signs in a month, so stays in a sign for approximately 2 and a half days. A new moon always occurs when the Sun and Moon are in the same sign. A full moon occurs when the Moon is in the opposite sign to the Sun."
Its something I feel is less talked about because I have not see anything on the 420 following these methods however maybe I didn't look hard enough! I know I snagged joe's sniffer on this lol Have a great day guys!
joedaddy805
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ok so the 1 that was 1/8 sprouted overnight. it looks kinda weird looks like the root is coming out also. maybe i didn't place it right to where it would of just grown straight down. or maybe i got twins. does anyone know of that ever happening or is it even possible?
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I dont think I ever heard or saw that before joedaddy. In news of my garden. When I transplanted the 2 plants into their own containers as I mentioned before 1 survived and 1 shriveled and died. Well that one that was dead I still watered and still left it planted and now it seems to have came back . Its clearly stunted but its alive and has new growth and I think it will make it if it keeps it up. I will take pictures today or tomorrow. I have to clean up the area thats why I havent taken pictures recently nor have I started a new journal since most of these plants are from the first journal I figure there isnt a point to make a new journal just yet. Or should I? What do you think?
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