Seed Madness Medical Grow by The Butcher

[The Butcher]

Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports - Seed Madness Medical Grow by The Butcher

yeah I've done the GHS version out in the past, I would say flower at 2 ft max.. Depending on the pheno, I grew a out 10 from beans 8 female with 3 different phenos. Heres a quick review:

Pheno 1: Indica Dominant, 10 week finish, doubled in size when she finished flowering, the Northern Lights were very pronounced in this pheno
Pheno 2,3: Sativa Dominant, 11 week finish, doubled in size when she finished flowering, Very citrus smelling, the haze genetics definitely dominated these 2 phenos.

Hope this helps you out.

 

[Purple Goose]

Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports - Seed Madness Medical Grow by The Butcher

yeah I've done the GHS version out in the past, I would say flower at 2 ft max.. Depending on the pheno, I grew a out 10 from beans 8 female with 3 different phenos. Heres a quick review:

Pheno 1: Indica Dominant, 10 week finish, doubled in size when she finished flowering, the Northern Lights were very pronounced in this pheno
Pheno 2,3: Sativa Dominant, 11 week finish, doubled in size when she finished flowering, Very citrus smelling, the haze genetics definitely dominated these 2 phenos.

Hope this helps you out.

Yessiree bob that will do it now I know how big I can expect it to get I have been told by a lot of people that SSH will grow to 5' tall from a 8" seedling but I just couldnt buy that kind of stretch in a 10-12 week strain maybe a 16week sativa I would believe it but not something with any indica gene's at all.

 

[The Butcher]

Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports - Seed Madness Medical Grow by The Butcher

Keep in mind that it does have the Northern Lights in her. And GHS is a great breeding company that has some of the best genetics. So when they Cross strains they cross the best.

Just a thought, I would top her at 2 feet let her go for a 4-5 days then hit the switch. That way the plant will concentrate on growing outward rather then up. This is just a thought though.

 

[Green Utopia]

Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports - Seed Madness Medical Grow by The Butcher

Just catching up. Sooooo much good stuff in here. Thanks for sharing!

 

[Setting Sun]

Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports - Seed Madness Medical Grow by The Butcher

Butcher, I so much appreciate you sharing your expertise in strains, breeding and genetics.

This journal rocks brother .

 

[The Butcher]

Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports - Seed Madness Medical Grow by The Butcher

Thanks SS. Much appreciated, words like yours keep me growing & journaling.

So heres and update on whats going on:

NUTRIENTS
Per Gallon - Nutrient
.75 tsp - Gen. Hydro Flora Micro
.75 tsp - Gen. Hydro Flora Gro
.75 tsp - Gen. Hydro Flora Bloom
1 tsp - Hygrozyme
PH - 5.61
PPM - 726
Temperature - 76*
RH - 52%

I'm working on the photos for the update, so for some reason I don't get them up tonight. They will be up tomorrow for sure, I took a couple clones off of a few plants to ensure the fem'd seeds are fem'd. Which I do have faith in Seedmadness that they are. But its always better safe then sorry, and hey if any are male then its all good. That would just mean that we have a volunteer for my Butchers Slaughter Breeding Journal.

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[naphtali5725]

Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports - Seed Madness Medical Grow by The Butcher

Thanks for the update Butcher!

 

[Bolivar]

Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports - Seed Madness Medical Grow by The Butcher

Hey, Butcher, tell Seed Madness to put some larger pics of the T-shirts. Can't tell what's on them.

(Ordering some Early Skunk later this month. Anything to keep from another 14-week flowering period...)

 

[The Butcher]

Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports - Seed Madness Medical Grow by The Butcher

Hey, Butcher, tell Seed Madness to put some larger pics of the T-shirts. Can't tell what's on them.

(Ordering some Early Skunk later this month. Anything to keep from another 14-week flowering period...)

Will do let me know if theres anything else. That should be an easy fix.

 

[Planter]

Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports - Seed Madness Medical Grow by The Butcher

that black mist looks amazingly good. well done!! have you ever got seeds from this strain or do you just have like a mother and just take clippings? looks yummy bro. well done!!

This bubba kush is gonna be great. im excited!!

 

[Snuggs]

Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports - Seed Madness Medical Grow by The Butcher

Is the curling happening on a blueberry, or a strain that is crossed with blueberry?

My blueberries curled like that, and i never did straighten them out, didn't appear to hurt the plant or production was really good smoke.

Grew with flood/drain, and used both GH 3 part series, and also with GH Flora Nova...same result..damn curling leaves kept me up at night thinking something was wrong

Northern Lights plants had no issues.

Unknown strain unfortunately. Same here though, just keeps growing.

Thats the thing about toxicity build ups, they can and will lock out vital nutrients. The lock out visually appears to be a deficiency despite not actually being one. The end result is the grower tries to resolve the problem by adding more nutrients. It happen to us all, it just part of the learning process. The flush will help fix that issue. Then just add flushing into your feeding schedule from here on out. If and when you do add flushing into the mix, it will help to prevent further problems from occurring. Another way of preventing further issues is to add straight water into your feeding mix, maybe every other or every 3rd feeding. This way you force the plants to use readily available nutrients without having to add more in.

Thanks again Butcher. I'll adopt some new techniques for awhile and see if she straightens up. As of now it's nutes, water and molasses, then straight water.

 

[naphtali5725]

Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports - Seed Madness Medical Grow by The Butcher

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[The Butcher]

Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports - Seed Madness Medical Grow by The Butcher

that black mist looks amazingly good. well done!! have you ever got seeds from this strain or do you just have like a mother and just take clippings? looks yummy bro. well done!!

This bubba kush is gonna be great. im excited!!

Yeah, got some babies germing right now. I traditionallay grow a mom then take cuttings, mother a new cutting while the original mom flowers, then cuts off that one. I try to get no more then 80 cuts per mom. Which is more then enough, however I do keep track.

Lately, I've been focusing on both the medical grow and breeding. Once all is done I may do a nice SOG in the NFT/E&F. That system just got some recent upgrades. I enjoy using the Aero version I did of it, I just enjoy incorperating some of our industries latest innovations. However, I am still debating on wether or not to do the grow. Currently that system is doing a test run with using micro greens. I love growing even if its not Cannabis. Plus the smell of the Rosemary in the aero works great to help mask any scent that is given off from the Cannabis. The Rosemary will be coming out this week, then we'll have to see what fate is in store for her.

Thanks again Butcher. I'll adopt some new techniques for awhile and see if she straightens up. As of now it's nutes, water and molasses, then straight water.

Your plan looks good, plenty of water to flush. the main thing is to release the hold that the toxicity has on your plant. Once you do that then you should be all good.

 

[Planter]

Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports - Seed Madness Medical Grow by The Butcher

ahh very cool. so do u grow all around 80 clippings or are you like a caregiver and u have lots of patients and u distribute them out? that stuff does look amazings, would be nice to get that here to me

 

[The Butcher]

Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports - Seed Madness Medical Grow by The Butcher

Kinda all to be honest. But I never grow that amount all at once. I keep within my legal limits and pay my taxes on what I have to in order to keep everyone, including the authorities happy. I have a close set a friends that I trade and hang out with. As for my patients they are mostly cancer patients who I keep stocked on their meds (free of charge). That along with a few dispensaries who have been asked about my strains from random people.

These dispensaries have been trying to get me to grow for them for sometime now. I just haven't got the right offer yet, I'm more concerned about my patients at the hospitals. My last bigger pull helped them all out, by keeping them stocked for some time now. Plus with the passing away of my dear friend , I re-distributed his meds (free of charge) to a couple new patients that the had been suggested to me by their Doctor. I don't try to find them, I only take what the Dr. at the Hospital ask me to take. This Doctor doesn't smoke, nor condemns it, he knows that I grow for pure medicinal reasons. By showing and giving copies of my medical records to him, the hospital & Doctor keeps me in the loop on who needs what.

THE DOCTOR, I NOR THE HOSPITAL MAKE ANY MONEY, all of us are on the same page. Each and everyone of us do it due to being the best route for these patients to get through their days and nights. I'm not as bad as them, but due to having so many surgeries and injuries I use Cannabis instead of being stuck on vicodin for the rest of my life. Cannabis allow me to stay awake and not have to stress about getting addicted to an opiate such a Vicodin. And yes I literally have a lifetime prescription of Vicodin, and refuse to use it. Even my family physician is amazed, he says most people would kill to have it. I can't stand it to be honest, why should I conform my body to a med that can cause it to get sick cause I don't have it. Not cool what so ever.

Again though, once I do get an offer that fits both the needs of my patients and myself then I will play ball. I'm not trying to make $$$, I'm about making sure all my patients get their meds. I only get what is needed to get me to the hospital, since I moved another hour from the hospital. I have to keep separate books to ensure I have my car, gas and garden up to par. The most important thing is to keep the Cancer patients comfortable. Thats why this grow has been so important, these strains can and will make the meds more accommodating to the needs of the patient. Anyhow, sorry for the long answer, but there is to many details in that answer.

 

[naphtali5725]

Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports - Seed Madness Medical Grow by The Butcher

Kinda all to be honest. But I never grow that amount all at once. I keep within my legal limits and pay my taxes on what I have to in order to keep everyone, including the authorities happy. I have a close set a friends that I trade and hang out with. As for my patients they are mostly cancer patients who I keep stocked on their meds (free of charge). That along with a few dispensaries who have been asked about my strains from random people.

These dispensaries have been trying to get me to grow for them for sometime now. I just haven't got the right offer yet, I'm more concerned about my patients at the hospitals. My last bigger pull helped them all out, by keeping them stocked for some time now. Plus with the passing away of my dear friend , I re-distributed his meds (free of charge) to a couple new patients that the had been suggested to me by their Doctor. I don't try to find them, I only take what the Dr. at the Hospital ask me to take. This Doctor doesn't smoke, nor condemns it, he knows that I grow for pure medicinal reasons. By showing and giving copies of my medical records to him, the hospital & Doctor keeps me in the loop on who needs what.

THE DOCTOR, I NOR THE HOSPITAL MAKE ANY MONEY, all of us are on the same page. Each and everyone of us do it due to being the best route for these patients to get through their days and nights. I'm not as bad as them, but due to having so many surgeries and injuries I use Cannabis instead of being stuck on vicodin for the rest of my life. Cannabis allow me to stay awake and not have to stress about getting addicted to an opiate such a Vicodin. And yes I literally have a lifetime prescription of Vicodin, and refuse to use it. Even my family physician is amazed, he says most people would kill to have it. I can't stand it to be honest, why should I conform my body to a med that can cause it to get sick cause I don't have it. Not cool what so ever.

Again though, once I do get an offer that fits both the needs of my patients and myself then I will play ball. I'm not trying to make $$$, I'm about making sure all my patients get their meds. I only get what is needed to get me to the hospital, since I moved another hour from the hospital. I have to keep separate books to ensure I have my car, gas and garden up to par. The most important thing is to keep the Cancer patients comfortable. Thats why this grow has been so important, these strains can and will make the meds more accommodating to the needs of the patient. Anyhow, sorry for the long answer, but there is to many details in that answer.

Butcher,
I commend you on your refusal to take the vicodin, I too have basically a lifetime prescription for it due to my military service connected injuries, and the cannabis does a far better job than the opiates the VA basically forces on you.

What have you found to be the best strain for migraines, and severe pain?

Thank you for your dedication to your patients, I salute you.

Kind regards,
naphtali

 

[The Butcher]

Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports - Seed Madness Medical Grow by The Butcher

Butcher,
What have you found to be the best strain for migraines, and severe pain?

I use Sativa's with a THC content that don't break the 15% THC marker. Strains carry a high THC content tend to have a higher CBN content which not only gives you a higher couchlock effect but tends not to help the migraine. Most seed vendors try to add the content with description of the strain.

As for severe go with either Widow or Kush strains. Another one that has helped me in the past is Super Silver Haze, its got a great uplifting effect, with an effect to take your mind off the pain. But to be honest, I just stick with the Rainbow Kush cause it gives me the best of both worlds. However since, that is not available I would have to recommend the above. Oh one more is F*ck'n Incredible by VISC, knocked me on my a*s. And put all my pain away,but I gotta say it was (((STRONG))) !!

 

[Planter]

Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports - Seed Madness Medical Grow by The Butcher

Kinda all to be honest. But I never grow that amount all at once. I keep within my legal limits and pay my taxes on what I have to in order to keep everyone, including the authorities happy. I have a close set a friends that I trade and hang out with. As for my patients they are mostly cancer patients who I keep stocked on their meds (free of charge). That along with a few dispensaries who have been asked about my strains from random people.

These dispensaries have been trying to get me to grow for them for sometime now. I just haven't got the right offer yet, I'm more concerned about my patients at the hospitals. My last bigger pull helped them all out, by keeping them stocked for some time now. Plus with the passing away of my dear friend , I re-distributed his meds (free of charge) to a couple new patients that the had been suggested to me by their Doctor. I don't try to find them, I only take what the Dr. at the Hospital ask me to take. This Doctor doesn't smoke, nor condemns it, he knows that I grow for pure medicinal reasons. By showing and giving copies of my medical records to him, the hospital & Doctor keeps me in the loop on who needs what.

THE DOCTOR, I NOR THE HOSPITAL MAKE ANY MONEY, all of us are on the same page. Each and everyone of us do it due to being the best route for these patients to get through their days and nights. I'm not as bad as them, but due to having so many surgeries and injuries I use Cannabis instead of being stuck on vicodin for the rest of my life. Cannabis allow me to stay awake and not have to stress about getting addicted to an opiate such a Vicodin. And yes I literally have a lifetime prescription of Vicodin, and refuse to use it. Even my family physician is amazed, he says most people would kill to have it. I can't stand it to be honest, why should I conform my body to a med that can cause it to get sick cause I don't have it. Not cool what so ever.

Again though, once I do get an offer that fits both the needs of my patients and myself then I will play ball. I'm not trying to make $$$, I'm about making sure all my patients get their meds. I only get what is needed to get me to the hospital, since I moved another hour from the hospital. I have to keep separate books to ensure I have my car, gas and garden up to par. The most important thing is to keep the Cancer patients comfortable. Thats why this grow has been so important, these strains can and will make the meds more accommodating to the needs of the patient. Anyhow, sorry for the long answer, but there is to many details in that answer.

good on you bro. that is really cool that you do that for your patients. i personaly would love to do that for people, every since being a patient over here in colorado. i am really keen on growing good meds. not to slate everyone here, but every clinic i have been to. they just seem like drug dealers , all in it for the money, and that is not right, at all. really makes me mad goin into a place and all they have is poor quality. what the F**k is this gonna do for people. sorry i get a lil stressed when i think of it. maybe sometime i can grow as good as your stuff. and i can help out people that really do need help. my buddy, his dad has cancer and i havce help him do some trimming and stuff. well whilst his grow was goin he did some diy in the room, above his plants and got dry wall all over, eeekkkkkkk. and well didnt do much just dried it and smoke it when ready and also got mites nd to me didnt treat it very well , thats not good. i know that there are peeps out there and alot and just dont have time , money, patients, or the space to grow and what are they doin? i dont know. buying meds from a dispensary that no one knows how they grew it and how much real true care went into it. i wanna help them out, they need. not alot of people are willing to help, all in it for the money. so good for you!!! sorry for a long mummble too!!

 

[naphtali5725]

Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports - Seed Madness Medical Grow by The Butcher

Oh one more is F*ck'n Incredible by VISC, knocked me on my a*s. And put all my pain away,but I gotta say it was (((STRONG))) !!

Butcher, what strain are you referring to there?

naphtali

Oh never mind, i see it is F'ing incredible strain by vancouver island seed company

 

[The Butcher]

Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports - Seed Madness Medical Grow by The Butcher

Staffy: I know your frustrations, there are allot of great dispensaries, unfortunately the ones that are killing it for all of us, are th ones not legit. I get mad when I see the news and someone get raided due to violations. Whether true or not, if they stay on point and give Uncle Sam his and the states their part. Then all should be good, the ones RESPECTING our Government and the state laws, help out all of us. All we want is to be legal, its like selling LOTTO tickets, get a big winner and don't pay taxes,; YOU WILL BE JAILED. The same goes for Cannabis Dispensaries,; Don't pay taxes, YOU WILL BE JAILED. I feel your pain !! `

Naphtali:
I alway's get that same reaction whenever I talk or mention that strain. great pain killer, and a beautiful plant to look at.