RQS Critical x2: Photos In Veg 90 Days, Just Flipped

Turned off blurple light matey.. any better?

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Turned off blurple light matey.. any better?

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I though it looked a little off, but im not a scrog guy. But I just happen to know a very smart gentleman who knows a ton, and runs scrog.
@GoogleGenie can give this gentleman any advice.
Also you may want to check his grow journals, lots of great details in there.
 
I though it looked a little off, but im not a scrog guy. But I just happen to know a very smart gentleman who knows a ton, and runs scrog.
@GoogleGenie can give this gentleman any advice.
Also you may want to check his grow journals, lots of great details in there.
Cheers again Bill284 appreciated
In my ignorance (which I can assure you, is vast) I was thinking it was just a horizontal trellis. :)
I shall give GoogleGenie a look..
 
Thanks for the tag @Bill284

Hey @Bud love, whats up :peace: Lovely plants you have there. Well trained :bravo:

I guess a way to think about a ScrOG screen, is that it is a tool to use in order to expand the horizontal foot print of a plant. This of course, is one of the primary objectives of LST/HST - to break vertical apical dominance through horizontal training.

At Day 13, you're probably through the worst of stretch. What you have there isn't really a ScrOG, it's more like plant support. But can still be put to good use.

To be used effectively as a screen, seeing as they're already most of the way through the stretch, you want to put it on lower and spread the flowers and branches out to allow more direct light to more bud sites. It still won't really be a ScrOG because you will likely have a lot of lower growth you want to keep.

Typically if i ScrOG before the flip, I will train the plant and remove almost all lower growth before the screen goes on.


If i put the screen on into flowering, it will be after they've stretched out a little and I would have defoliated before the screen went on.

These are still vegging, I'll be flipping in the next week or so, once the roots are established in their new pot. Notice how they are already stretched out under the screen.


I will actually be removing the screen for the first week of stretch, and putting another one on with smaller holes, this is a temporary/training screen I'm using to train the plant horizontally, before they go under their permanent screen.

Hope this makes sense.
 
Thanks for the tag @Bill284

Hey @Bud love, whats up :peace: Lovely plants you have there. Well trained :bravo:

I guess a way to think about a ScrOG screen, is that it is a tool to use in order to expand the horizontal foot print of a plant. This of course, if the primary objective of LST/HST. To break vertical apical dominance through horizontal training.

At Day 13, you're probably through the worst of stretch. What you have there isn't really a ScrOG, it's more like plant support. But can still be put to good use.

To be used effectively as a screen, seeing as they're already most of the way through the stretch, you want to put it on lower and spread the flowers and branches out to allow more direct light to more bud sites. It still won't really be a ScrOG because you will likely have a lot of lower growth you want to keep.

Typically if i ScrOG before the flip, I will train the plant and remove almost all lower growth before the screen goes on.


If i put the screen on into flowering, it will be after they've stretched out a little and I would have defoliated before the screen went on.

These are still vegging, I'll be flipping in the next week or so, once the roots are established in their new pot. Notice how they are already stretched out under the screen.


I will actually be removing the screen for the first week of stretch, and putting another one on with smaller holes, this is a temporary/training screen I'm using to train the plant horizontally, before they go under their permanent screen.

Hope this makes sense.
Wow that was a great tutorial im going to save it so I can give it to new growers ;) I'm mean for me, hehe. I have to convert to a more efficient method, I'm not getting younger and its a lot of work. :thumb:Thank you my friend for helping.
 
Thanks for the tag @Bill284

Hey @Bud love, whats up :peace: Lovely plants you have there. Well trained :bravo:

I guess a way to think about a ScrOG screen, is that it is a tool to use in order to expand the horizontal foot print of a plant. This of course, if the primary objective of LST/HST. To break vertical apical dominance through horizontal training.

At Day 13, you're probably through the worst of stretch. What you have there isn't really a ScrOG, it's more like plant support. But can still be put to good use.

To be used effectively as a screen, seeing as they're already most of the way through the stretch, you want to put it on lower and spread the flowers and branches out to allow more direct light to more bud sites. It still won't really be a ScrOG because you will likely have a lot of lower growth you want to keep.

Typically if i ScrOG before the flip, I will train the plant and remove almost all lower growth before the screen goes on.


If i put the screen on into flowering, it will be after they've stretched out a little and I would have defoliated before the screen went on.

These are still vegging, I'll be flipping in the next week or so, once the roots are established in their new pot. Notice how they are already stretched out under the screen.


I will actually be removing the screen for the first week of stretch, and putting another one on with smaller holes, this is a temporary/training screen I'm using to train the plant horizontally, before they go under their permanent screen.

Hope this makes sense.
Hey there.. hope your good’n well @GoogleGenie ..
Thanks for giving up the time.
that info’s superb matey,
An yeah... not a scrog, more of a muddle through:).
When you say “because you will likely have a lot of lower growth you’d want to keep” I’m thinking that...Maybe I should of not had a frenzy with the bud trimmers not half an hour ago? aargh!
Peace an love
Bud
 
Hey there @Bill284
Hope alls well
I was looking for some info on pink stalks/leaf stems and came across a post you where following (not stalking you I promise) @HiighTide
said that he had a good response using fish, blood and bone for the same prob.
My question is.( may be a daft one)Is there a cut off for using this?
I wouldn’t want my bud smelling of any of those ingredients come harvest:)
Thanks again for your time dood. Appreciated
Lol what’s up bro. Yeah I had great success with the fbm. I knew they were hungry tho because they’d been in those 5gal long enough to deplete it. I wouldn’t be too concerned with the petioles being purple but the stalk turning purple has always been because of lack of nutrient strength for me. And as far as a “cutoff” the last time I’ll top dress, will be a week or so after stretch with kelp meal. Down to earth recommends once per month and it’s worked for me so far. I just go by how each plant is looking to determine the rate of application. Also I haven’t had any of my crop to taste any less than the best of the best using organics. This time last year I was a month into my first grow, rdwc. When I started my mission was to find out where the quality was, hydro or soil. Ran both last year and spent all that money to fully automate the hydro and it hasn’t been used since I turned it off after harvest because the terp profiles I got from organics by far outweighed hydro. This grow was just my first time top dressing and I feel like I know something now Good luck!
 
Wow that was a great tutorial im going to save it so I can give it to new growers ;) I'm mean for me, hehe. I have to convert to a more efficient method, I'm not getting younger and its a lot of work. :thumb:Thank you my friend for helping.
Lol what’s up bro. Yeah I had great success with the fbm. I knew they were hungry tho because they’d been in those 5gal long enough to deplete it. I wouldn’t be too concerned with the petioles being purple but the stalk turning purple has always been because of lack of nutrient strength for me. And as far as a “cutoff” the last time I’ll top dress, will be a week or so after stretch with kelp meal. Down to earth recommends once per month and it’s worked for me so far. I just go by how each plant is looking to determine the rate of application. Also I haven’t had any of my crop to taste any less than the best of the best using organics. This time last year I was a month into my first grow, rdwc. When I started my mission was to find out where the quality was, hydro or soil. Ran both last year and spent all that money to fully automate the hydro and it hasn’t been used since I turned it off after harvest because the terp profiles I got from organics by far outweighed hydro. This grow was just my first time top dressing and I feel like I know something now Good luck!
Wow man, thanking you kindly for dropping in.
Had loads of good advise and info today. An it just keeps coming:)
I ordered some in after reading what you had to say on the matter.
 
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Wow man, thanking you kindly for dropping in.
Had loads of good advise and info today. An it just keeps coming:)
I ordered some in after reading what you had to say on the matter.
posted that before I’d finished( done that today already)
There wasn’t much more to say other than, I’m still waiting for it.:)
Feeling the love today:)
Peace an love
 
Afternoon good people
I’ve had a good chop at the lower leaves as can be seen in the pics. The Ladies seemed to have taken it in there stride, no adverse effects ( yet):)
Made life much easier when watering too.
I’ve upped the nuts to full strength ( manufacturing recommendations) as of today..
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I wasn’t really paying attention to these 2 ladies during veg, as my eyes where on the other girls in the tent at the time.
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I topped em twice and bent and tied down all over the place..imagining that I was creating a couple of perfectly delightful Lst’d scrog s.
Well... now I know better:) turns out, what I actually know how to do is.. create a couple of pretty shrubs. :)
Hell of a lot more, expertise, skill and knowledge required..
Thankfully all the kind help and advise offered my way, can only put me on the right track.
A humble thank you good people.
Bud
 
Afternoon good people
I’ve had a good chop at the lower leaves as can be seen in the pics. The Ladies seemed to have taken it in there stride, no adverse effects ( yet):)
Made life much easier when watering too.
I’ve upped the nuts to full strength ( manufacturing recommendations) as of today..
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I wasn’t really paying attention to these 2 ladies during veg, as my eyes where on the other girls in the tent at the time.
6255BCA3-CAB0-40A2-AC27-6343080DC172.jpeg
D3503EF4-A211-459E-B3BF-D92A24AD1AE0.jpeg

I topped em twice and bent and tied down all over the place..imagining that I was creating a couple of perfectly delightful Lst’d scrog s.
Well... now I know better:) turns out, what I actually know how to do is.. create a couple of pretty shrubs. :)
Hell of a lot more, expertise, skill and knowledge required..
Thankfully all the kind help and advise offered my way, can only put me on the right track.
A humble thank you good people.
Bud
The girls look strong and healthy. You have done well so far my friend.
 
Hey peeps
Hope everything is going well for you.
Day 18
Advanced platinum 1200 + 2x 1200mm street light( white) on 12/12.
28/30c.. day
15/18c. Eve
Ec 1.9
ph 5.7/8

canna bio Flores. 4ml/ ltr
Canna boost. 4ml/ ltr
Cal mag. 1ml/ ltr
Hydroguard. 1ml/ ltr
Ph. Up
T.a bloom. 0.5ml/ltr

ladies seem happy ( as far as I can tell, who knows really? :) )
Both took 8ltr each today before any run off..

I’ve noticed a few more pesky fungus gnats flying about.. thought I’d got rid, but there you go.
Ive kind added sticky traps and got a bit of a breeze going across the top of the pots.(that kind advice was shared after a previous post I’d made)
Temps have been a bit all over the place. However, that all seems to have settled down since I readjusted timing of fans. And
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added a diffuser to mix the air around a bit better..
I’ve also added a couple of extra co2 canisters.. not a lot though... they’re a bit pricey at £25 each for a 2 week dose.
Sorry about the light for pics..
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as ever
Peace an love ❤️
Bud
 
Ok.. sorted temps out. Or so I thought. I Left all the fans off last night, put little heater on to keep it cosy.. temps moved up from 15c and stayed at 18c.
However... mold friendly humidity peaked at 80%, which I definitely don’t want in there.

I’m running a big ass ISO-Max extractor with a rhino c filter. Which, as it happens, I don’t have as much control of as I’d like. I can’t use a separate controller on it. The iso has its own power control with 1,2,3,0.and that’s it.
I’ve got a 4” RVK running air in from outside, another one in the tent by the light with a diffuser attached mixing it up a bit.
Everything seems to be working well throughout the day, keeping the temps around 25c
I shall have another go tonight. Other than that I guess , colds better than mold.
May the force be with you
 
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