RQS Creamatic, Sundae Driver And Epsilon In Coco

I’ve been thinking about this but can’t put it all together. Either way here is the creamatic sin netting and rotated. Sometimes I think she doesn’t look half bad and 99 percent I do not.

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I’m basically trying to let the epsilon die. This and I couldn’t save it if I tried. However she’s so far into flower is matters not.


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If you see I’ve done something crazy let me know, I’ve gone in 20 directions trying to figure this out and haven’t gotten anywhere. 🤲 🙏
 
There’s hope. At a cost. I’m paying the price. I’m not proud of what I’ve done, but I’m happy with it. Epsilon is coming down over the next few days as soon as the pot is drier. I watered and gave a half hearted feed today before I decided to perform this dark deed. We all know she isn’t ready but she’s coming down.

I realized that I could control one tent. Not two tents, not one tent and the room, not the room alone, just one tent. Because I was sharing equipment between the two tents and only had enough…. for one. Let alone the room.

We’re getting the creamatic back on track dammit. So she’s in the big tent alone with all the fans and ducts and the humidifier. I can heat and cool the room itself which is only like ten feet by eight feet with a short ceiling on one side. So from there I can adjust humidity within the tent and voila I’ve got a place she can feel good and breath in. She’s been that way for like three hours and I’ve gotten back not only to acceptable range but it’s actually like perfect and typing this feels like it’ll jinx it. The VPD was down at 1.45kpa about an hour ago.

Here is the sacrifice. (Sorry) These buds smell so incredible. I don’t think I’ll ever not say that about fresh bud… Maybe the kiwi I grew last summer. Anyway here you go!

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The two little half a bb size balls of sticky shit from the scissors went directly into my pipe.

I’d rathe wait till tomorrow to look at the creamatic again I don’t want to scare the VPD away! So I’ll do it tomorrow and get pictures of her, see if she looks any better or worse.
 
Ok so I see,no worries bro that's how these things go bro fr,you doing a great job tbh that rh is far more of a issue than you might think,I would forget about the the plants that are past 4 weeks of flower nothing you do will make any major changes at that point. I would fix that rh first then focus on the other issues,rh that low really does interfere with normal processes inside plants, especially at veg or early flower. Funny you say you have 3 grow rooms ? Huh I have had same issue,this what I did, try connecting your tents with dryer ducking at the top of tent and at the bottom of the tent. Seal all the tents. Put first tent as the veg tent,make sure you can put humidity out heavy (humidifier,hang wet towels or place pots of water in every corner,do not let your veg room temps get above 85f,that's when moisture in air begins to dissipate very quickly. In the next tent do same thing,use as a veg/ early flower. If the tents are connected rh will be lower in 2nd tent. Then use 3 tent as a flower room. It will have lowest rh. Make sure they are sealed and put fans blowing air into ducting up high and fans pulling air down low,this creates a suckion / pressure that will start the air circulating thru all 3 tents. Then after you have the 3 tents connected then start rasing rh in the lung room as needed. It's a lotta work but it will help with everything really lol. You doing great bro,most woulda already quit or harvested lol
 
Thanks man it never occurred to me to connect the tent to each other. You are slightly confused though, there’s are only two tents and the room itself. I agree that dry air was my worst enemy. Hopefully the tent with creamatic is rolling right now. I am not goin to try to figure this out beyond the creamatic because in March I am not going to be in this house anymore and I’ll be back out at the cabin growing ourdoor. Next winter I’ll be doing it in this house indoor again and live the idea that the tents can keep moisture up for each other.
 
Waywardwayne said:
Thanks man it never occurred to me to connect the tent to each other. You are slightly confused though, there’s are only two tents and the room itself. I agree that dry air was my worst enemy. Hopefully the tent with creamatic is rolling right now. I am not goin to try to figure this out beyond the creamatic because in March I am not going to be in this house anymore and I’ll be back out at the cabin growing ourdoor. Next winter I’ll be doing it in this house indoor again and live the idea that the tents can keep moisture up for each other.
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Oh my bad thought you said 3 plus lung lol but yes it's a lotta work but once you set it up things become much easier later down the road. I was indoors n not going anywhere so it was worth it to me. Most the time all I needed to do was speed up or slow down the fans in the veg room and it corrected all three tents within a hour. I discovered that method by pure luck. You going outside nice you can do both!! I always used 3 tents lol
 
It’s brilliant in some ways. I like it. Can’t do both at once I’ll live at the cabin and already got a renter for the house, so can’t go in if it’s occupied. I’ll also go down to Florida in spring and not positive how long. But yea after I’m hoping to really have my setup polished up a little. Outdoor space too. Compost and los outdoor.anyway enough rambling pictures and environmental report of creamatic coming along with my impressions of the plants reaction there of.
 
She’s lookin happy to my eye. A lot happier at least. One leaf still has the damage this morning. Will keep an eye out for more. But that leaves me confused. As the plant looks better as a whole I’m not gonna worry about one leaf until it shows me more.

I’m really happy it’s finally going better.
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Epsilon. “What the hell” picture. Nothing I can tell you about it anymore.
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Cob cutting is well into fermentation now. The canary is dark.
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I opened the vacuum seal just now and dried the moister and resealed it. Took a small sampler off the end. It’s drying now in the dehumidifier with the cob while it cures. I’m just quick drying the sampler and will smoke it in about an hour when it’s ready. I’m nervous.

There’s a definite beef jerky aroma happening but it’s not the forefront of the profile. I don’t know what it smells like otherwise. Fermentation which can take on any quality depending what is being fermented, but it’s still there. Anyway picture for your review.

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Waywardwayne said:
I opened the vacuum seal just now and dried the moister and resealed it. Took a small sampler off the end. It’s drying now in the dehumidifier with the cob while it cures. I’m just quick drying the sampler and will smoke it in about an hour when it’s ready. I’m nervous.

There’s a definite beef jerky aroma happening but it’s not the forefront of the profile. I don’t know what it smells like otherwise. Fermentation which can take on any quality depending what is being fermented, but it’s still there. Anyway picture for your review.

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Whoa bro what is that ? Fermenting buds ? Wtf is this method for ? Are u curing ? Why does rh matter if vac sealed ? I'm curious now lol what is this ?
 
It’s cob curing. This method was developed hundreds of years ago in Africa I think. But using the technique of the day, not a vacuum sealer. The descriptions of it really sound special if you look up “malawi cob cure on this forum you may find the threat I read.


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That’s the flow chart but there’s a couple ways to a grove the same result. Corn husk vs parchment paper vs naked. And more variation but the different stages all still have to happen and in order. I’m down to try! I’ve got 11 grams of the fresh sundae driver in a cob now.

Here’s a post a few days ago with more on it as far as what I’ve done, not the whole process.


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RQS Creamatic, Sundae Driver And Epsilon In Coco
 
They used to create the heat by simply stacking a ton of weed up on the ground and the pressure of the weight would cause the heat to build. Then they’d bury it under goat shit and other waste for a few months. It’s been refined a touch.
 
Smells like something deep and mature. Wifs of something that may hint at cinnamon rolls without the cinnamon. (Can’t explain, I’m doing my best) But there’s a half dozen other aromas that go undefined

High came on as if I stepped into a cool clear pool of water. But for my brain. Slight headband feeling too. But an energetic euphoria followed within seconds. I’m completely ripped.

Now when I smoke the sundae driver with normal dry/cure I can compare. No chance in hell the aromas will match.

It didn’t need that much time to dry after all. The moisture felt like it was more in the outside layer of the cob.


***** update.**** Ooof on the third hit and she smell nothing like the first anymore. I don’t know what it smells like 😂 but it’s not bad. I guess it’s how fermentation warps all the smells and flavor.
 
Waywardwayne said:
Smells like something deep and mature. Wifs of something that may hint at cinnamon rolls without the cinnamon. (Can’t explain, I’m doing my best) But there’s a half dozen other aromas that go undefined

High came on as if I stepped into a cool clear pool of water. But for my brain. Slight headband feeling too. But an energetic euphoria followed within seconds. I’m completely ripped.

Now when I smoke the sundae driver with normal dry/cure I can compare. No chance in hell the aromas will match.

It didn’t need that much time to dry after all. The moisture felt like it was more in the outside layer of the cob.


***** update.**** Ooof on the third hit and she smell nothing like the first anymore. I don’t know what it smells like 😂 but it’s not bad. I guess it’s how fermentation warps all the smells and flavor.
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So you wrap directly off the. Plant ? Oh my mold how you keep it from the damage of the moisture ? It almost looks to me like a very early stage of the jar process ,,? I gonna checkit out n google,this method makes me nervous but it's probably cuz I don't understand it fully yet
 
You dry it normally but only half way. That image I posted say greater than 65% RH but other sources say as high as 80%. Mine was over 70% RH likely but I didn’t measure. I know kinda how it felt compared to other harvests I’ve dried.

Mold is monitored with the “canary”. An unwrapped piece you can see clearly and inspect for issues.
 
Waywardwayne said:
You sry it normally but only half way. That image I posted say greater than 65% RH but other sources say as high as 80%. Mine was over 70% RH likely but I didn’t measure. I know kinda how it felt compared to other harvests I’ve dried.

Mold is monitored with the “canary”. An unwrapped piece you can see clearly and inspect for issues.
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Really ok so it is a fully thought out method then ? Ok you got me I gonna check it out now lol last time I was looking at harvest methods or dry n cure methods I found out about Turkish style dry n cure!! Pretty much just a longer wetter dry n cure lol. Have you decided which method is best so far from your perspective?
 
The cob isn’t where it need s to be yet for an actual test. What I did was like lick the cake bowl sort of, not have a slice of cake.

It won’t be done for real until at least two weeks from now but longer if I wanted.

It’s a real method and corn husks are used to impart a slight sweetness to it. I didn’t want that I just wanted the straight Mary Jane. But I think the parchment may have even provided a little of its input. I can’t be sure the flavor is so twisted from what it would be normally.


I’m always looking at new methods with the goal of best terp preservation and smoothness. But when I saw the fermenting altered the high….. hell yeah let see!
 
I’ve had the heater in the basement now, so “three hours later” I’ve got a heater in the basement but not I don’t have one for the grow room. On the surface it may seem I’m having bit of a rough patch, plants , water, whatever. But my life is so incredible in so many ways that the frozen pipes can’t get to me for long. And fact is they are thawed and water flowing finally. And they didn’t even burst anywhere as far as I can tell right now. I can now fill humidifier and do dishes, yeah!

So my luck continues, with only short breaks between!


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As always it’s luck. I opened my kitchen cabinets and directed a fan in there and I think that’s what got the water going.

Basement never froze. But the pipe under the sink was 29f coursing to ir thermeter. Does seems warm air in the cabinet was the trick and not the heater in the basement. Meaning until recover the heater for the grow room again. Drama drama drama! 🎭


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Higher temps were when I was using the sensors in other locations. The basement temps begin around dec 20 in this. As if you ever had an inkling of interest in any of this 😝
 
And my poor sundae driver in the closet drying. I got water in the humidifier and it’s pumping out the juice. Will see if these couple hours did any harm.


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and we are getting back in the right place quickly. Looking at the data the buds only had low RH for an hour. I don’t think they will show any signs from that. Because they themselves are still above 65% in a jar.

Final update untill I have something to say about the plants. Phone about to die!


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Ok one more update before the phone gives it up.

I cut the epsilon. (And my finder nail, didn’t realize they can grow that fast) Just the main cola tip part. Let the baseball get some air and direct lighting. I think this bud was nearly mature then decided to start stacking more bud. Nearly foxtailing. So, while I only really saw amber on sugar leaf, I know most are cloudy and stuff deeper and older is likely past amber some. Here she is!

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