Relaxed's 2014 Outdoor Medical Grow

Relaxed Lester said:
He runs through the sprinklers in the morning on occasion, we've had him as a pet for over 45 years :surf:

He lives in his own cavern that he dug himself, it is about 7 feet deep.

A long long time ago, we had neighbors who had tortoises and they kept escaping, and coming into our yard. So he stayed. :grinjoint:
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That's just too cool Lest.

Congrats on your harvest...
 
B A R said:
That's just too cool Lest.

Congrats on your harvest...
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Thank you Brother BAR! :cheertwo:

CareStaker said:
Outstanding looking buds, congratulations on your harvest. :high-five: They look like they will tickle the brain a bit, so frosty :) :peace::Namaste:
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Well thank you very much for those kind words CareStaker! :passitleft: I think "tickle the brain" is about accurate! The flavors are progressing and wow, I woke up this morning with the taste of that Blackberry on my mouth, even after a good brushing last night. :woohoo:

josh223 said:
Yeah, I'd have a bunch of re-veged hermies if I tried that.
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I don't think you would. If anything, we should all learn by this how lenient it can be. My force flowering schedule coincides with my leisurely routine before dinner, and before breakfast. I have a nice cocktail and walk through the garden, puff a bowl, and put the plants inside at the same time, sometimes I'm having too much fun and I am late by 20 minutes. I know I'm a bad boy if I've done that. I've done that quite a few times, but lately narrowed it down to about 5 minutes. Since they are getting about 16 hours of darkness I think that makes up for the inconsistency. It just goes to show, outdoors for me at least, that there is a degree of leniency associated with the stability of the genetics. Growing stable hybrids is a big plus. It's more important to be on time during the first 3-5 weeks of flower, and towards the end it doesn't matter as much IMO. I mean, I'm a human - not a robot!! To conclude, I am ultimately grateful for the wild nature that exists behind light deprivation, and the fact I can do this makes me ever more excited about this plant we call cannabis :Namaste:
 
I agree Lester. After the 3rd or 4th week of flower light reduction is the key. I had mine sometimes down to 10 hours a day the last 3 weeks. I was pretty regular though. Sometimes 15 minutes earlier, sometimes a half hour later and they really started to concentrate on the trichs and bud in a last ditch effort to perpetuate.

:peace:
 
Ole Festus said:
I agree Lester. After the 3rd or 4th week of flower light reduction is the key. I had mine down to 10 hours a day the last 3 weeks and they really started to concentrate on the trichs and bud in a last ditch effort to perpetuate.

:peace:
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Though that is ideal, I haven't actually been doing that. On the flip side, when I am late to close the door to the chamber by some amount of time, it is actually increase in light relative to when I wasn't late!!
 
OldMedMan said:
I want to steal some of your energy Lester.......A garden too! Aloha Brother. :high-five::high-five::high-five:
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Thanks a bunch OMM! I am super medicated. My flowers have done me RIGHT! :cheertwo: :circle-of-love: :Namaste:
 
I get the idea that in the later weeks of flower you would actually want to start earlier then to be late. Just as the day light drops off by minutes a day, in 7 to 10 days you lose about 15 to 20 minutes of light. So dark time automatically increases and you create a more natural cycle.

:420: :Namaste:
 
In the late flowering you might actually try just leaving them outside as they lose their photosensitivity and it's no longer possible to reveg. You're giving them more light if you have good exposure, so your yield should get slightly bigger. I think I'll try that on my plants in a week or so.
 
conradino23 said:
In the late flowering you might actually try just leaving them outside as they lose their photosensitivity and it's no longer possible to reveg. You're giving them more light if you have good exposure, so your yield should get slightly bigger. I think I'll try that on my plants in a week or so.
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I respectfully disagree with "they lose their photosensitivity and its no longer possible to reveg"

The tissues are definitely still photosensitive by genetics, it is a matter of hormone concentrations. Since we build up flowering hormones over a matter of weeks, the small amount of vegetative hormones that still exists within the plant is on the back burner. It could still be reinstated by having way more light to play with than before. I think that confusing the plant too much can cause the true nature of cannabis to be revealed, and that is to self-pollinate and revert back to millions of years of evolution, when all else fails, self-pollinate.

So re vegetation definitely goes hand in hand with hermaphrodites. It is true that cannabis can calculate the first derivative of light, meaning it can determine how fast the light is changing, but this ability takes a while to have an effect. What matters more is the sum of the light hours.

I personally wouldn't want to take a chance on "Just leaving them outside" after they've built up enough flowering hormones to sustain a couple weeks of continued flower growth. My opinion is that one would see increased leaf growth, and less uniformed bud growth, and also the possibility for self-pollination. Assuming we're talking about doing this right in the middle of summer. Another reason I would not want to do it is because of moths. My plants need to be protected and away from harms way. If I were to leave them right outside the dark chamber there's a good chance I would see a lot of caterpillars in my buds. A perk to my force flowering is the plants are completely safe, and I never see caterpillars on my force flowered plants - that to me is worth so much alone.

I know someone who asked me about what you said, I told them I wasn't willing to take the chance because I can't afford my small little plants to re vegetate and hinder my yield and quality terribly, so the best I can do is have them in by +- 5 minutes.

To each to his own... but do let me know how things go ;)
 
I would have to agree Lester. I don't have the scientific language for the process but I know they would reveg. When I reveg it only takes a couple of weeds and you see the new growth and the stop of the flowering. I would think if you went from 8 to 10 hours of light to outside at this time of year it would get all screwed up and not finish flowering or if it did the buds would stop getting bigger and finish out light. Just my ideas.
 
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I think this is what happens when they try to self pollinate. This plant was down to 10 hours of daylight just before harvesting. I started reducing the light cycle 4 weeks until harvest. This plant had 4 sets of nanners altogether. If I wouldn't have harvested her, she may have self pollinated herself.

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I don't think I would ever risk just "leaving them out". You figure we "force flower" inside plants and you would never just leave them back on a vegative light cycle. You will for sure get hermies or a re veg. Now if it was the end of the summer and everything is flowering you might be alright. But I wouldn't take that chance personally. I'd 100% agree with Lester
 
Just looked back thought I typed... whew! I checked and did give reps :cheesygrinsmiley:

Sweet Harvest, great images too!

Do you collect from the gloves?
 
Relaxed Lester said:
so the best I can do is have them in by +- 5 minutes.

To each to his own... but do let me know how things go ;)
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Holy Smokes that must be tough to maintain... I wish I could give more reps just for that
 
Ole Festus said:
I think this is what happens when they try to self pollinate. This plant was down to 10 hours of daylight just before harvesting. I started reducing the light cycle 4 weeks until harvest. This plant had 4 sets of nanners altogether. If I wouldn't have harvested her, she may have self pollinated herself.

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It's hard to pin the tail on the donkey as to why exactly our cannabis does the things that it chooses to do.... :tokin:
That is an amazing specimen, a true beauty! That will give us some eye candy for this page :high-five: That's definitely a last ditch effort to attempt to pollinate. You just don't want an early ditch effort :grinjoint: Like I said before, hard to suppress millions of years of plant evolution and their necessity to survive through asexual reproduction. We do as best as we can though :)

WeedyMcWeedWeed said:
I don't think I would ever risk just "leaving them out". You figure we "force flower" inside plants and you would never just leave them back on a vegative light cycle. You will for sure get hermies or a re veg. Now if it was the end of the summer and everything is flowering you might be alright. But I wouldn't take that chance personally. I'd 100% agree with Lester
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I think conrad was responding to a post I made on the previous page where I said "It's more important to be on time during the first 3-5 weeks of flower, and towards the end it doesn't matter as much IMO.", I left it open for interpretation. I pretty much ment that if toward the end of flower your late by 20-30 minutes its not a disaster, but hours can make a difference, especially when the sun doesn't fully set until after 8:30 PM because of the angle on the horizon. But yeah, I agree, I don't have the means to experiment or toy with that idea currently. A fellow member by the name of "thegreengrocr" had asked me about it. It's definitely going to be dependent on what strains one is growing at what latitude so the individual grower has to experiment to see what works for them. I just do what I know works for now :) :passitleft:

Buckshot said:
Just looked back thought I typed... whew! I checked and did give reps :cheesygrinsmiley:

Sweet Harvest, great images too!

Do you collect from the gloves?
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Thanks a bunch Brotha Buck :Namaste:! I try not to touch the trichomes too much while I'm trimming. I hold it by the stems like an ice-pop and twirl around. So there really is nothing to salvage off the nitrile gloves when I'm done. The non-stick scissors I use don't take off as much of the resin either so not really any scissor hash. It's all left on that goopy sappy bud ;)

Buckshot said:
Holy Smokes that must be tough to maintain... I wish I could give more reps just for that
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Ehh.. it's relatively straightforward I think we just like to make things complicated. Anyone who can enjoy a fine sativa tries to dig into the inner intricacies and explore every little detail of why, or how something works. So it's just a matter of having a solid routine. I am scheduled to have a cannabis bowl at the same time everyday, that is the same time my plants go in and out. So my life is centered around their schedule :rofl: I think that's the same for pretty much everyone here, right? :)

DaddiSwanga said:
Great detailed information RL, thank you.:passitleft:
Since i leave mine outside 24/7, they will just automatically flower once the days get shorter at the end of summer, and i don't have to worry about these advanced variables, correct?

Happy Growing Ya'll!:Namaste:
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Thank you, and you're Welcome!

That's correct! Just water them, watch them grow, and inspect them often. Mother nature will do all the calculus for you :thumb: :cheertwo:
 
Relaxed Lester said:
So it's just a matter of having a solid routine. I am scheduled to have a cannabis bowl at the same time everyday, that is the same time my plants go in and out. So my life is centered around their schedule :rofl: I think that's the same for pretty much everyone here, right? :)
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Yeah but I can not do anything at the same time EVERY day, I would never be able to do it.
 
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