Relaxed's 2014 Outdoor Medical Grow

Hey Brotha Hope your Weekend started out great and end on an Awesome note
anywho been tired so haven't been around much
hope all is well on your side of the big pond Have a Chronic one :thumb:
 
:wood: Hi Lester,

Was very, very busy today. Got tied up in all different stuff, way too much stuff, but now I'm back to doing what I like. I usually drop by your journal earlier, so please forgive me.

I do have a question for you. It's harvest related & since you just harvested, I think it a half decent question to ask.

I think that I remember that you have a Vape & you test samples that way. Do you have a preferred temperature or do you adjust the temp range between samples, wet, partially dried & cured bud?

:thanks:
 
Cronichemphog said:
Hey Brotha Hope your Weekend started out great and end on an Awesome note
anywho been tired so haven't been around much
hope all is well on your side of the big pond Have a Chronic one :thumb:
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Aloha and Mahalo my brotha Indeed that is how things are cruising along. This magical KC-45 sativa just puts the biggest grin on my face my friend! :)

Dennise said:
Your plants look amazing....:circle-of-love:
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Hey why thank you!! :circle-of-love:

Ole Festus said:
:wood: Hi Lester,

Was very, very busy today. Got tied up in all different stuff, way too much stuff, but now I'm back to doing what I like. I usually drop by your journal earlier, so please forgive me.

I do have a question for you. It's harvest related & since you just harvested, I think it a half decent question to ask.

I think that I remember that you have a Vape & you test samples that way. Do you have a preferred temperature or do you adjust the temp range between samples, wet, partially dried & cured bud?

:thanks:
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Hi Ole Festus, No worries there bud, my preferred temperature is 190 Celcius. It is indeed true that the optimal temperature changes depending on the moisture content of the bud, some buds need just a few more minutes of propagation of oils before the first hit is perfect, and as it dries and cures, the buds if packed at 190 will only need a minute or two before it's ready to go.

Also, I don't "just test my samples that way" I strictly vaporize and have not actually smoked in a long long time and it feels great :) It is certainly the way to go, even though it does use a decent bit more herb, that just means I need to grow more :rofl:
 
Good evening weed Lester. your girls are loving the sun. Ah to sit on the deck and gaze out upon the garden. Happy Shatterday
 
beemerbill said:
Good evening weed Lester. your girls are loving the sun. Ah to sit on the deck and gaze out upon the garden. Happy Shatterday
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Good Evenings Herb my friend! :ciao:
 
I do see you like your sativa. Looks like your staying pretty busy. I just more of less got started working on my yard. Do have afew things going like always but not as busy as yours. I read back afew pages and seen talk about forcing flower. Just me throwing out something that might help someone with a idea. Just some pvc framed quonset hut type framework, with that black out material to throw over it. Kind of manual stuff unless one like to tweak with electric motors and a timer. You can make it any size. But then I know you play atad with it. I bought that supid store bought greenhouse kits afew years back. The panels are taking a crap after three years. I will say this it's a great frame and if I ever get out there in earnest I'd opt for it. That material is real breathable stuff. A slight breeze goes right thru so it doesn't turn into a hot wet nightmare, when closed up. And it comes in percentages of block. I think I'd go darkness.
Hey I even have acouple new strains that have a greater slant of sativa started this year. They got some Hawaiian Purple in them. And I had to replace a Marion Berry that hermied on me, she is a 'cooler' weather plant. She didn't like bright warm days at all. But Stoney Girl had 2 different pheno's hes playing with so I ended up with both. So far they look night and day different.
GL on the nomination. And Keepem Green
 
Good morning Lester,

:thanks: for the info, appreciate you sharing your knowledge.

:Namaste:
 
Norcaliwood said:
I do see you like your sativa. Looks like your staying pretty busy. I just more of less got started working on my yard. Do have afew things going like always but not as busy as yours. I read back afew pages and seen talk about forcing flower. Just me throwing out something that might help someone with a idea. Just some pvc framed quonset hut type framework, with that black out material to throw over it. Kind of manual stuff unless one like to tweak with electric motors and a timer. You can make it any size. But then I know you play atad with it. I bought that supid store bought greenhouse kits afew years back. The panels are taking a crap after three years. I will say this it's a great frame and if I ever get out there in earnest I'd opt for it. That material is real breathable stuff. A slight breeze goes right thru so it doesn't turn into a hot wet nightmare, when closed up. And it comes in percentages of block. I think I'd go darkness.
Hey I even have acouple new strains that have a greater slant of sativa started this year. They got some Hawaiian Purple in them. And I had to replace a Marion Berry that hermied on me, she is a 'cooler' weather plant. She didn't like bright warm days at all. But Stoney Girl had 2 different pheno's hes playing with so I ended up with both. So far they look night and day different.
GL on the nomination. And Keepem Green
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Yeah, for outdoor greenhouse growers who are force flowering full entire crops at a time, they'll get 3-4 harvests off the same plants in 1 season with the automated tarp system. Real interesting stuff, just press a button and a motor completely blacks out the greenhouse, and likewise removes it based off a set-time. Real important for some larger growers. Be a bit too much work for me and my little backyard grow, so I just move them in and out of the chamber by hand. Nothing like hand-grown medicine :) Yeah I'm loving this KC-45 it really turned out, definitely is a great strain to have in my arsenal. Thrives very well here for sure and produces nice medicine. Also has some purple tendencies... Hey I'm hoping to see you grow the stuff so perhaps you could pop a couple of beans for me? :) Thanks for dropping through with the kind words of wisdom my friend :passitleft:

Ole Festus said:
Good morning Lester,

:thanks: for the info, appreciate you sharing your knowledge.

:Namaste:
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Great Day to you Festus, You are very welcome :)

Dennise said:
:passitleft: Wake and Bake Sunday to ya Sir......:circle-of-love:
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Aloha and Great Day Dennise, lots of work in the garden this morning, after watering all the strawberries and new lettuce seedlings, I had to water all my medicinal plants. The Blackberries got a solution of D&S Step 3 after a drink of fresh water, and the KC-45s got a mixture of SNS-209, and SNS-604B after a fresh drink. Everything is looking great, I even moved one of the runty looking KC-45s into the "wilderness" out in the "jungle of the backyard" where it will act as an aesthetic contribution to the backyard, and will be a sacrificial bait plant that will grow to become beautiful. More work... one of the Blueberry seedlings didn't make it, think it was too hot and it died, so the other 3 seedlings had to be transplanted (2 Maui Waui, and one Blueberry) using D&S Step 1. Since a lot of seeds haven't came up yet, I decided to plant more of the Panama Red, Maui Waui, Blueberry, and Swiss Cheese. Hopefully we'll get some decent sprouts this week. In other news, the Blackberry is starting to get a nice musty smell to it, and it is certainly begun trichome production. On top of that, all soil tops were sprayed with a solution of SNS-203 :Namaste: I love these products! :circle-of-love:

Good Day All
 
A kind soul was nice enough to send me a bottle of the SNS 209 that I plan on starting on the 2 outside girls but it has rained so much until today that it hasn't needed any added anything but when it is time to water them again I water with the 209 first and then my normal watering with nutes? I read the bottle but it doesn't seem to be slipping into my head..:headbang: I get that it uptakes the product and is moved throughout the plant therefore warding off the pest but I am still a bit fuzzy on the application. Any help would be greatly appreciated.... I should have typed this before getting medicated. Took me 10 minutes....:lot-o-toke:.....:circle-of-love:
 
Dennise said:
A kind soul was nice enough to send me a bottle of the SNS 209 that I plan on starting on the 2 outside girls but it has rained so much until today that it hasn't needed any added anything but when it is time to water them again I water with the 209 first and then my normal watering with nutes? I read the bottle but it doesn't seem to be slipping into my head..:headbang: I get that it uptakes the product and is moved throughout the plant therefore warding off the pest but I am still a bit fuzzy on the application. Any help would be greatly appreciated.... I should have typed this before getting medicated. Took me 10 minutes....:lot-o-toke:.....:circle-of-love:
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All you have to do is add a little bit to the nutrient solution when its time to feed. I always make sure to water with fresh water before applying the nutrient solution so there's less chance of nutrient burn, and so the root zone gets saturated by the application. That's what I do at least. :passitleft::circle-of-love:
 
Hey whats going on in here? Its been about a week since ive been to your journal let me go look around a bit. Always good topics in here.
 
Explain to me vaping if you will please. I understand the basics of it but what are the benefits of vaping over smoking washed buds in a blunt or bowl
 
SmokerJoe said:
Explain to me vaping if you will please. I understand the basics of it but what are the benefits of vaping over smoking washed buds in a blunt or bowl
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Aloha SmokerJoe, this about sums it up! :thumb:

Relaxed Lester said:
A hot air vaporizer , or herbal aromatherapy machine is a safe,smart,and sound alternative to plant combustion. Hot air extraction, like steam extractions, which have been done for thousands of years has proven to be a superior method of extraction essential plant oils. The boiling point of THC being about ~315 F, and other cannbinoids a little higher at ~ 350 F, which is about ~160 C and ~ 210 C respectively. By heating the plant material above 200 C , it is possible to extract carcinogenic organic compounds such as benzene, and toulene ( hence smoking isn't good for you ). The act of distilling a plant, and separating compounds based off different boiling points, and using its psychoactive ingredient has been done for thousands of years, just the fact is the autoignition temperature of paper ( similar to hemp ) is about 850 F, or 350 C, this is a very large difference which obviously leads to the breakdown of many other cancer causing agents.

The fact technology is where it is today, and allows for a cost effiecient, and over-all efficient mechanism for extracting the active ingredient, THC, is an over-whelming reason to stop inhaling combustion products, and aim for a cleaner mode of ingestion.

Now, there are a few cannabinoids, maybe 1% that does exist in the plant matter ( only can gain access through combustion ) but these are not "clean" cannabinoids. However, some people say that, when your vape bowl is done (you'll know), that theoretically the left-overs could be used for baking edibles.

I smoked fat RooR rips for about 5 years straight, and believe me there was nothing like it. But I'm sure glad I'm not combusting anymore. Vapors are the way to go!:420:
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Relaxed Lester said:
Extreme-Q is the best deal next to a Volcano. Note the 400$ price difference. I've been using the Exteme Q by Arizer for over a year now. There's no way you'll find your herb combusting using this device. From the sound of it, the MFLB doesn't even sound safe.

To add, the Extreme-Q has a vertical glass bowl that forces the hot air to surround all sides of the herbs, swirling/mixing up to increase surface area doesn't really become an issue. Other than a plastic mouth-piece that cups your mouth for the Volcano, the EQ has a glass one, and the cyclone screens that are used need to be cleaned about once a week, they tend to collect particles. If you ask me, this minor difference is certainly worth saving, and putting that 400$ price difference in your pocket. The vapor quality is also high, it is an efficient machine.

Either way, if you can spend 200$ on an Aromatherapy device, might as well make the best choice! I'm so happy I stopped combusting, and the purchase of this device is giving my lungs a break from the years of abuse via combustion.

There is a lot of good information in this thread - about the science of hot air extracting, and the reasons why it's such a better alternative, it just depends on your medical condition.
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Hmm I knew most of that. I was more so asking about the experience of vaping vs smoking. Also arent good vaporizers really expensive? Also couldnt you use a vaporizer that would traditionally be used for something such as a vicks vaporub vaporizer. Ive smoked out of so many types of methods Bong,pipe bowl,peach,apple,glass cookie jar, hollowed out bamboo leg for a chair,steam roller,something i like to call a gravitron. Well you get the picture but vaping ive never tried never met anyone smoking out of 1. Arent those ecigs a vaporizer? So could you vape marijuana from that? After you vape a nug do you just throw the nug away?Can you vape shake
 
SmokerJoe said:
Hmm I knew most of that. I was more so asking about the experience of vaping vs smoking. Also arent good vaporizers really expensive? Also couldnt you use a vaporizer that would traditionally be used for something such as a vicks vaporub vaporizer. Ive smoked out of so many types of methods Bong,pipe bowl,peach,apple,glass cookie jar, hollowed out bamboo leg for a chair,steam roller,something i like to call a gravitron. Well you get the picture but vaping ive never tried never met anyone smoking out of 1. Arent those ecigs a vaporizer? So could you vape marijuana from that? After you vape a nug do you just throw the nug away?Can you vape shake
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The buds have to be ground up before being packed.

The Volcano (which may be considered a superior unit by some, but I don't think so IMHO) costs 600$

My unit, the Extreme Q cost ~200$ and I have been using it for 3 years with no problems, very durable and amazing unit that I am so happy I invested in. The vapor quality is high and the price difference was way worth it. Even though I pack about 0.3 gram per bowl, I really enjoy using my vaporizer so I don't have to inhale nasty combustion products. One of our sponsors has a lot of different vaporizers to choose from VaporNation - Your Online Vaporizer Superstore
 
Can confirm, my friends extreme q is fantastic, and much more preferred over my other friends volcano.( if I want to walk around with an inflated bag ill go back in time and get a balloon at the carnival.) Swivel hooka pipe, fast start up, huge savings in weed use due to hugely improved cunsumation method and no couphing up something chunky after a night's burn fest with my family? Check that all the way down the list sir. Spent so long coming back from catastrophic injuries, me no likey compromising the lungs. As soon as $$ allows, I'm in.
 
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