Radogast 2 - Return of the Clones

Radogast said:
Having vegged my clones for 47 weeks without them being strong enough to flower, :oops:
I'm pretty sure I have earned more than a tiny bit of criticism.

If justice brings her scales my way, I'm ready for 1/4 lb harvests per plant.
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Never heard a grower request scales!! Gnarly pests! Haha I know what ya ment. Looking good r@do!!

I&I
 
Radogast said:
Yeah. :party:I noticed you post something Whedonesque on another thread, so I took a shot ! :tommy:
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SweetSue said:
Big fan here as well.
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Very cool that both of you know Firefly and Serenity. That show was so underated and a shame to take it off the air after one season but we fans prevailed and got them to do the movie which gave a bit of closure. I periodically watch that on Netflix.

May the Verse be good to you both! ;)
 
Joss Whedon is a creative genius. Have you seen his " Much Ado About Nothing" ?
 
My memory evades me, I am sure I saw it though I can't remember a thing about it, the title sounds very familiar. :) Having a bad brain day again. I saw an advertisement for a new show that has the girl that played the doctors sister in it - I can't remember shit right now sorry. I'm sure you know who I mean. :Love:
 
Joss did it as a "vacation" from his last big blockbuster. It was filmed at his home, with his friends acting (yeah, imagine who his friends are!). It has been their habit to gather on regular occasions to read Shakespeare. It was filmed in black and white, in conventional dress and word-for-word Shakespeare. A brilliant production. Not released widely. We're lucky enough to have a small independent theater nearby.
 
Ain't stopped in for an age! Hope all is well and good with you my friend! :)
 
Light Addict said:
Ain't stopped in for an age! Hope all is well and good with you my friend! :)
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During much of this grow, not much had changed, including little growing.
A couple of weeks ago, the issue was diagnosed as high pH soil, so I started pH down'ing water and replacing soil.

My 4 & 5 month old seeds, now thriving.

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Very nice. Im happy to see that they are growing now and they look great.
 
Radogast said:
How to train?

I feel like I have some understanding how to top or FIM a plant that branches with opposed branches. Despite their small size, these plants are growing alternating branches.


What can I do to encourage branching when I already have alternating branches?

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awesome Rad! These look really healthy now, good job with lowering the pH :)
 
very nice garden mate :)

you're killing it, every update more awesome than the other
 
Rad, I went looking around last night about training with alternating branches, and the general consensus was to stick to LST. What sprang to mind was Greytail's method of bending to encourage even canopy development. Might be your best bet.

Looking like the kind of grow you were expecting. :goodjob:
 
Radogast said:
Thanks !!!

Your signature quote really does apply to my 9 months of inertial slow grow.

My problem wasn't "solved by the same kind of thinking that created it. "
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lol Yes Albert was quite the thinker ;) There have been many quotes attributed to him but most are false and he never said them. This one I researched to be sure - it was definitely him. Did you know Carl Sagan was a pot smoker? He was an advocate for it because of its ability to allow a person to think creatively and outside the box :Love: Uh oh, rambling again...
Glad your grow is greeneringly :)
 
SweetSue said:
Rad, I went looking around last night about training with alternating branches, and the general consensus was to stick to LST. What sprang to mind was Greytail's method of bending to encourage even canopy development. Might be your best bet.

Looking like the kind of grow you were expecting. :goodjob:
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Ok. So , if understand it, the goal is to bend the leader down to a level where the top is below some of the stem to force a "feather" of branches going up from the main stem - a line of colas coming off a single main stem .

Is that the concept here?
 
xtrchessreal said:
lol Yes Albert was quite the thinker ;) There have been many quotes attributed to him but most are false and he never said them. This one I researched to be sure - it was definitely him. Did you know Carl Sagan was a pot smoker? He was an advocate for it because of its ability to allow a person to think creatively and outside the box :Love: Uh oh, rambling again...
Glad your grow is greeneringly :)
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I've listened to Carl Sagan talk about pot smoking and read one of his articles (NY Times? ?)
I believe he had a firm grasp on the travesty of prohibition and the huge potential for releasing creative thought that he personally experienced with Marijuana (and others have experienced with less accepted natural substances.)

Call Sagan was a child of the 60s who could still be trusted over 30 :)
 
I tried reading some real science today.... tough sledding that is beyond me .... so I decided to quote an Editorial

New Phytologist
Special Issue: Ecology and evolution of mycorrhizas
Volume 205, Issue 4, pages 1369—1374, March 2015

Editorial
Evolving insights to understanding mycorrhizas


Almost all land plant species form a symbiosis with mycorrhizal fungi. These soil fungi provide nutrients and other services to plants in return for plant carbohydrates. The recent application of microbial metagenomics, metatranscriptomics, and metabolomics to plants and their immediate surroundings confirms the key role of mycorrhizal fungi, rhizosphere bacteria and fungi, and suggests a world of hitherto undiscovered interactions (van der Heijden et al., this issue, pp. 1406—1423). This novel knowledge is leading to a paradigm-shifting view: plants cannot be considered as isolated individuals any more, but as metaorganisms, or holobionts (Hacquard & Schadt, this issue, pp. 1424—1430) encompassing an active microbial community re-programming host physiology (see Pozo et al., this issue, pp. 1431—1436). This bears tremendous implications for plant ecophysiology and evolution, plant breeding, crop management and sustainable ecosystem management.

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On the plant side, the mycorrhizal symbiosis is increasingly viewed as an ecological network, where shared fungal partners create a common mycorrhizal hyphal network (Bender et al., 2014) making each plant an indirect partner of its neighbors. Nutrient transfers are well known, as well as the imbalanced contribution of plant partners to mycorrhizal networks as compared to the benefit they gain, although the determinism for such outcome remains unclear (Walder et al., this issue, pp. 1632—1645). New functions are now discovered: plant defense signals can be transferred from one plant to another through mycorrhizal networks as conduits (Johnson & Gilbert, this issue, pp. 1488—1453). Plants connected to networks are subsequently better protected against insect herbivores and antagonistic herbivores. Although the mechanisms, and the evolutionary forces that shape such indirect collaborations remain unclear, it is now evident that the mycorrhizal fungal community blurs the limits of plant holobionts.

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Interesting phrase "plants cannot be considered as isolated individuals any more"
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