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That is really a bummer about Salome and Delilah. They were gorgeous boys, that's for sure. I have decided to go 11/13 also, I just can't decide what my start and stop times will be.
You may have noticed that I early veg longer than normal (basically bad parenting.)
Once I get them into late veg, I grow them to be robust and almost too large for the flower room.
I do this because, at the end, it seems every 2 weeks more of veg is 1/2 oz more yield.
I think of 11/13 as a potentially more fragrant, flavor inducing version of 12/12,
so ... I go 11/13 as soon as I decide the girls are as wide as they need to be and 5" from being too tall.
This is based on a perpetual grow where veg is seperate and the flower light is always on, so each girl can be on her own schedule.
If you are batching your girls, I would take an average of "big enough" through "almost too big."
I have not grown autos because over half of the auto girls I see on the threads start to flower before they reach my definition of "big enough." With my slow vegging skills, my yield would be horrible.
If you are growing autos, I would go 11/13 as soon as they go from pre-flower to "starting to look like puffball flowers."
Stop time of 11/13 is harvest time