Quix's First Auto Grow Featuring Blue Mammoth - LA Diva & Afghan Kush Ryder

Re: Quix's First Auto Grow Featuring Blue Mammoth, LA Diva and Afghan Kush Ryder

OK quick update.
It's been a rough two weeks for the young plants. This is something I think new guys should pay attention to.
I planted the seedlings into soil that was a well known brand, Fox Farms Happy Frog. I have always liked the soil, and still do. But one thing to note, is that when you have a small amount of soil that gets left over, but seems too much to throw out, you tend to save it.

Be mindful of how long you save it for. Mine sat through the end of last Summer, the fall, and most of the Winter before I needed it again. I also had it in a very cold location (garage).

I feel like the nutrients that typically come in our soils is negated, or that it dies over time if not used up.


So, I took this very cold, aged soil, and mixed in my Mychorhizae and Superthrive water, as usual, but possibly over dampened by a slight degree.

This created a very "clumpy" and dense soil base for the seeds to go into. What followed was a very slow start to the plants first few weeks. The first week seemed ok, but then all growth slowed, and I started to experience what looked like under, or over watering symptoms (Drooping). While the top layers of soil were slightly dry, the pots still had a heavy feel to them, as if the bottom layers wouldn't dry (because of density). Now, my first impression was that the roots hat shot straight to the bottom in following the water, while the top layer dried to unacceptable levels.
Basically, I was right. The roots were running fast and hard toward the bottom and failing to branch out latterally due to the quick drying top layer of soil, and the slow drying lower layer, which created a situation where the roots were basically rootbound without ever outgrowing their pots. Is this making sense?
A quick recap.
Old, cold soil that is over watered, will create a poor environment for seeds to thrive.

Now, the good news is that I got lucky, and am seeing a marked recovery.

I didn't post it, but my last feeding was the the "Mild Growth" feeding of BPN, 2.5 ml/gal, and added Great White Shark, which I've used in the past with good results.

Here are the pictures of the plants three days ago...
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Here they are yesterday, 2 days after the feeding...
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And here they are today:thumb:
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All I know is I bumped up the BPN, added Mychorhizae, and voila. Long story short, I'm happy, but start with good fresh soil!!:Namaste:
 
Re: Quix's First Auto Grow Featuring Blue Mammoth, LA Diva and Afghan Kush Ryder

Hey Quix Buddy. Have you seen the auto's in the contests this month....Killer Autos.:yummy:

Good call, thanks for reminding me!! Yep, nice autos over there. I voted:Namaste: 420 Contests
 
Re: Quix's First Auto Grow Featuring Blue Mammoth, LA Diva and Afghan Kush Ryder

i learnd that too a while ago, i mix old into new whenever possible, you know autos dont like transplant and the slowdown however small can cost grams, i recommend you get them in to their final pots as soon as possible so the have no stress, i learned this the hard way, i had a round of hbd's produce half as much due to me not having the final pots ready when they should have been, i skip small pots and go from germing in rooters right into 3 gallon smartpots now, works pretty good, just thought id share brother quix:thumb:
 
Re: Quix's First Auto Grow Featuring Blue Mammoth, LA Diva and Afghan Kush Ryder

i learnd that too a while ago, i mix old into new whenever possible, you know autos dont like transplant and the slowdown however small can cost grams, i recommend you get them in to their final pots as soon as possible so the have no stress, i learned this the hard way, i had a round of hbd's produce half as much due to me not having the final pots ready when they should have been, i skip small pots and go from germing in rooters right into 3 gallon smartpots now, works pretty good, just thought id share brother quix:thumb:
Yep, I totally agree with you that autos should be planted directly into their final pots, and that transplanting is not ideal. I sort of had to run it this way, due to money and time.
I did figure, however, that two weeks in would be about as early as I wanted to transplant, but also as late as I would want to transplant, to minimize stress. I would have transplanted last week, at two weeks above ground, but they were nowhere ready due to the stunting.
To be honest, I've already lost some yield from the stress of the first few weeks, but fortunately, they're really only around two weeks along growth-wise so maybe they'll just pick up where they left off:bitingnails:
 
Re: Quix's First Auto Grow Featuring Blue Mammoth, LA Diva and Afghan Kush Ryder

OH crap! I forgot to mention, too, that 3 days ago, I decided to change the lighting schedule to 18/6 rather than 15/9.....Now that I am able to completely close the garden even with lights on, the lights are not an issue at night. I was a fool to think that 15/6 would be adequate, it is not. Not sure what role the extra 3 hours of light played in the plants' recovery, but it surely didn't hurt. Hope all is well in all your worlds:Namaste:
 
Re: Quix's First Auto Grow Featuring Blue Mammoth, LA Diva and Afghan Kush Ryder

hmm i dont know since most of the time i run glr, but with glr i have had them yield up to an oz dry, im ok with that,could i have gotten more? probably but i have a grip of auto seeds, i make more often, and they run as a supplement to my main crop, but if i were to run a half dozen or more as a main crop i would do all i could to maximize, and since i have a baseline of what they do running under glr and 12/12 i would be able to see any improvements in yield easily ,i keep all the data in herb iq, like i was looking yesterday and im averaging 1-2 oz more per every harvest , in my notes i know exactly what nutes,additives,lights and upgrades did for totals, tents made a huge difference, going from a 400 to a 600 as well , great lil free program
i think your losses in totals will be minimal at this point, hopefully they don start flowering before they get big (fingers crossed)
 
Re: Quix's First Auto Grow Featuring Blue Mammoth, LA Diva and Afghan Kush Ryder

hmm i dont know since most of the time i run glr, but with glr i have had them yield up to an oz dry, im ok with that,could i have gotten more? probably but i have a grip of auto seeds, i make more often, and they run as a supplement to my main crop, but if i were to run a half dozen or more as a main crop i would do all i could to maximize, and since i have a baseline of what they do running under glr and 12/12 i would be able to see any improvements in yield easily ,i keep all the data in herb iq, like i was looking yesterday and im averaging 1-2 oz more per every harvest , in my notes i know exactly what nutes,additives,lights and upgrades did for totals, tents made a huge difference, going from a 400 to a 600 as well , great lil free program
i think your losses in totals will be minimal at this point, hopefully they don start flowering before they get big (fingers crossed)

I downloaded the Herb IQ, but have yet to use it lol, I probably should.
Norcaliwood has pulled some SERIOUS weight from an auto before, around 6 oz if I'm not mistaken! And Brother XLR8 pulled 4.7 dry from an auto by the name of Big Bang Auto last year or the year before. So, it is possible that you could have pulled more-I doubt I'll get an oz per plant personally, though, we shall see...:Namaste:
 
Re: Quix's First Auto Grow Featuring Blue Mammoth, LA Diva and Afghan Kush Ryder

Thanks for the warm welcome brother :thanks:

I already love how detailed this is getting. Kudos for not only putting quality time in your grow, but on your journal as well :bravo:


Boy do I feel ya about loud fans lol. I got a 10" inline fan under my bed in the basement cooling four lights. I just use it as an alarm clock now lol


I know you have a crammed area but is there any space you could fit a rubbermaid tote in there? If it's possible, you could just cut two holes on both ends of the bin for ducting and have the fan in the bin covered/muffled in old clothes. Also, if you'd like a cheaper alternative for a small smell control you could purchase the "Ona Mist" that disperses Ona every 7, 15 or 30 minutes. I think it's like $40 for the can and dispenser ($15 for refills). I don't know if any of these will apply to your situation but hopefully it helps.

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well, would ya look at that!!
THAT'S MY FAN!

wiw!

:cheesygrinsmiley:
 
Re: Quix's First Auto Grow Featuring Blue Mammoth, LA Diva and Afghan Kush Ryder

well, would ya look at that!!
THAT'S MY FAN!

wiw!

:cheesygrinsmiley:
Well, you may need to file a report then, because it seems UG owns it now!:rofl:
 
Re: Quix's First Auto Grow Featuring Blue Mammoth, LA Diva and Afghan Kush Ryder

UG!!!
You thief!!!!
I'm coming for you bro!!!!!

lol

Actually I think I posted that in his journal a while back when he was looking for fan dampening ideas.
They work really well to muffle sound. But the key is to have a speed controller on them, cuz if you're fan is a huge CFM'er and only able to run on full blast it will howl. But a large CFM'er speed controlled down a few notches, AND in a muffle box, will barely make a peep..

Great journal Quix!
Got all caught up and I'm along for the auto journey!
 
Re: Quix's First Auto Grow Featuring Blue Mammoth, LA Diva and Afghan Kush Ryder

UG!!!
You thief!!!!
I'm coming for you bro!!!!!

lol

Actually I think I posted that in his journal a while back when he was looking for fan dampening ideas.
They work really well to muffle sound. But the key is to have a speed controller on them, cuz if you're fan is a huge CFM'er and only able to run on full blast it will howl. But a large CFM'er speed controlled down a few notches, AND in a muffle box, will barely make a peep..

Great journal Quix!
Got all caught up and I'm along for the auto journey!

Ha, I figured it had to be something like that-I've ye to check out UG's grow, it's a time thing....

I definitely am grateful to the people who make up this site. Its cool that knowledge and support are passed around like a joint in this place. The fan muffler was a great idea, and has allowed me to keep the grow closed and locked during lights on, and also allows the lights to come on early in the morning without waking my wife and I:high-five:
I'd have invested in the speed controller for the fan, but the noise level is so minimal now that I figured I could use all the CFMs I can pull as long as the noise level is acceptable. My space is 128 CF, an dthe fan is 400 CFM. With the few bends in the ducting, I lose a few CFMs, so I estemate it's refreshing the space at at least 200 CFM, which seems perfect to me.

Thanks for the kind words and :welcome:
 
Re: Quix's First Auto Grow Featuring Blue Mammoth, LA Diva and Afghan Kush Ryder

Actually found it from a thread Vick started about replacing carbon filters and it just came up in convo. Icemud and Goshawk also have some on google images that are the same but I am sorry for takin your pic bro I coulda just gone downstairs and snapped a pic of mine lol:sorry:. I have a 1200cfm fan that is very quiet inside of the bin without controller but I also use a couple sleeping bags to dampen noise and it works wonders (I don't use insulated ductin anymore cause it works awesome). Your babies look extremely healthy though brother and I can really see that you understand plants needs very well, keep it up:bravo:. I just got a new job that will pretty much eat the only time I have left in the day so unfortunately my journal will be adbandoned soon but I'll still be around to watch this fantastic journal!! lol
 
Re: Quix's First Auto Grow Featuring Blue Mammoth, LA Diva and Afghan Kush Ryder

what a bunch of cmfers!!! lol looking and sounding good quix you rock brother!!

No no, you rock Brother :high-five: Thanks for the kind words. Truthfully, I'll feel more like I rock when I start my GDP grow later this year:yahoo:
 
Re: Quix's First Auto Grow Featuring Blue Mammoth, LA Diva and Afghan Kush Ryder

Actually found it from a thread Vick started about replacing carbon filters and it just came up in convo. Icemud and Goshawk also have some on google images that are the same but I am sorry for takin your pic bro I coulda just gone downstairs and snapped a pic of mine lol:sorry:. I have a 1200cfm fan that is very quiet inside of the bin without controller but I also use a couple sleeping bags to dampen noise and it works wonders (I don't use insulated ductin anymore cause it works awesome). Your babies look extremely healthy though brother and I can really see that you understand plants needs very well, keep it up:bravo:. I just got a new job that will pretty much eat the only time I have left in the day so unfortunately my journal will be adbandoned soon but I'll still be around to watch this fantastic journal!! lol

Hey man, thanks for the kind words. Congratulations on the new job though, and don't feel bad about abandning the journal. I was laid off last year and have been making ends meet with a plethora of side jobs and such. Doing pretty well now, but stability is paramount in this life, so here's wishing you the best at your new job!:high-five:

Also, I don't think Vick minded about the pic, he seems pretty cool. It served its purpose as you were trying to demonstrate the principal to me, and it worked well.
Goshawk is a cool grower with great journals too, I hope to see him around soon. Icemud is too now that I think of it. Haven't seen him around lately either but then, I've been out of the loop for a while.
Anyway, feel free to stop in anytime, good luck you!:Namaste:
 
Re: Quix's First Auto Grow Featuring Blue Mammoth, LA Diva and Afghan Kush Ryder

I was just browsing my gallery, and realized I had forgotten some of the pictures I had in there from my past grows...Check this one out from my first grow, done in cheap soil and mir@cle gro tomato food, under CFLs:rofl:
 
Re: Quix's First Auto Grow Featuring Blue Mammoth, LA Diva and Afghan Kush Ryder

Actually found it from a thread Vick started about replacing carbon filters and it just came up in convo. Icemud and Goshawk also have some on google images that are the same but I am sorry for takin your pic bro I coulda just gone downstairs and snapped a pic of mine lol:sorry:. I have a 1200cfm fan that is very quiet inside of the bin without controller but I also use a couple sleeping bags to dampen noise and it works wonders (I don't use insulated ductin anymore cause it works awesome). Your babies look extremely healthy though brother and I can really see that you understand plants needs very well, keep it up:bravo:. I just got a new job that will pretty much eat the only time I have left in the day so unfortunately my journal will be adbandoned soon but I'll still be around to watch this fantastic journal!! lol

Hey brother, don't sweat it really.
The point is, you helped a brother out with an idea, that led to a fix,
and that's what it's all about here.
so reps to you.
:Namaste:
 
Re: Quix's First Auto Grow Featuring Blue Mammoth, LA Diva and Afghan Kush Ryder

Mind if i sub up quix, I'll read soon bro...........:thumb:
I don't mind at all Mcloadie:welcome:

Feel free to stop in anytime:Namaste:
 
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