QT's Second Grow - 1st Journal

[ganjatoker8]

re: QT's Second Grow - 1st Journal

looking good! I'd lst or top em again later. LST is better since you don't stress them out and they won't take time to grow again, just branch more bud sites! =)

 

[ThatOneGuyy]

re: QT's Second Grow - 1st Journal

Ello Queen! I caught this a bit late and I could've been of service to ya. I am here now and I will help as much as I possibly can! I didn't know you started a Journal.

The twisting was most likely a ventilation/Ph issue. soil should be in the 6.5-6.8 range to utilize your nutrients. Maintain that with ample amounts of ventilation and you should be fine.

As for topping which I seen you did, I usually wait till about 5 nodes up(3 true fan leaves and 2 underdeveloped nodes) I top the new nodes off leaving me with 3 nodes. with about 1 week recovery time I have nice strong growth by then.

Anyways, things seems to be picking up and I will be watching from here. Feel free to ask me anything anytime I will gladly help in any way I can.

 

[Xlr8]

re: QT's Second Grow - 1st Journal

Hi QT - I'm not a soil grower, but I'd love to follow along.

I hope you don't mind, but I'd like to share a bit about growing and journaling - the journey I had with it:

I used to get discouraged about not having a lot of traffic in my journal (first one). I didn't journal the next several grows after that, but found myself periodically referring back to my first journal for notes I made - often frustrated that I didn't document things better, and constantly making note of what it was I wished I'd documented better. I tried journaling offline, which helped some, but I didn't get the benefit of outside knowledge this way, so there were some limits. So... late last year I decided to start journaling again, primarily for my own benefit - I valued the pics, notes and info for my own future gain. If other people were interested, fine, but the idea was now more about helping "future me" with growing. It really made journaling a more positive experience for me.

The other thing that happened, is that I started spending a lot more of my time here on 420mag helping out others or just following along in other peoples journals, or answering posts when people had problems/questions. Basically, I wanted to "pay back" a little for all the info I gleaned from the site here.

As a result of taking the pressure out of journaling, and participating much more outside of my journal - I get a lot more traffic and contribution from others in my journal now, and I'm blessed to have some of the best growers I've ever run across chiming in from time to time.

+rep for luck and for hanging in there. Good luck with the rest of your grow!

 

[Xlr8]

Re: QT's Second Grow-1st journal/BPN Nutes

I guess I am just like a proud Mama, I wanna take more pics but I just took some on 11/25. But I swear it looks like they have grown even more since then. It doesn't seem like the lemon juice harmed them any, maybe cuz I gave them the baking soda the next day. One thing I am noticing is that the humidity has been very low the past few days between 20-30 percent. What should I do about this? I read in Cervantes Bible that when humidity is low that it helps make more feminine plants? Is this true? I am wondering if I should leave it be or try to get the humidity higher. And if I have to make it higher, what should I do? I have a fan in the closet with them, I leave the closet door open most of the day. I close it about an hour before lights out. I also have a humidifier blowing all the time....Any suggestions would be helpful...Thanks.

I'm not sure if humidity makes a difference in whether a plant is female. I can say with some certainty that it must not make much of a difference or everyone would be trying it. I hadn't heard that theory before, but it sure is an interesting thought!

In general, I like my RH to be between 50-60% in veg, 40-50% during flower. I shoot for a target of 60% in veg, 40% in bloom, personally.

That low humidity you have is most likely stunting their growth some, and could be why they haven't grown more for their age. I would recommend a humidifier to bring it up above 50% at this stage, personally. I have a small ultrasonic cool mist humidifier from Walgreens or somewhere similar that works nicely in my tent. I think it was 30-40$, but makes a big difference especially when they're small like that...

 

[QueenTokelove]

re: QT's Second Grow - 1st Journal

Ello Queen! I caught this a bit late and I could've been of service to ya. I am here now and I will help as much as I possibly can! I didn't know you started a Journal.

The twisting was most likely a ventilation/Ph issue. soil should be in the 6.5-6.8 range to utilize your nutrients. Maintain that with ample amounts of ventilation and you should be fine.

As for topping which I seen you did, I usually wait till about 5 nodes up(3 true fan leaves and 2 underdeveloped nodes) I top the new nodes off leaving me with 3 nodes. with about 1 week recovery time I have nice strong growth by then.

Anyways, things seems to be picking up and I will be watching from here. Feel free to ask me anything anytime I will gladly help in any way I can.

Thanks for dropping in, One. I value all suggestions, you will never hear me complain about anyone giving their advice. The twisted leaves could have been both I guess. My ph was a lil acidic but not bad. I have a fan blowing in the closet with them maybe its a lil too high up, idk. I have been having problems trying to get my humidity up, at the moment it is staying between 20-30 percent, not sure why. I leave closet open during the day and also has a humidifier blowing, not sure if it helps them but it has been helping me with my allergies.

I topped early I guess for the sake that last grow I topped late and the plants grew more up than out. As for lts, I am a lil nervous about that because when I tried it with my first grow, I actually snapped the plant. After trying to give it a splint, I just gave up and threw it away. But when is a good time to start doing it? After how many inches? Yeah, I started a journal but I didn't think it would be proper to plug it. Was just hoping that some of the ones who helped me during my first grow would chime in...But better late than never.

Xlr---The thing about humidity I read in Cervantes growing bible. I do have a humidifier which runs every day in my room, was hoping it would help. Maybe I should put it in closet with plants but I also worry about the electrical stuff getting moist. I think I may need more surge protectors for it to fit in the closet though...Gonna see what I can do about that.You have a point about the journaling. I just figured since no one was saying anything that they weren't interested. But you do have a valid point of it being used as notes for me on future grows. I do try to participate in the forums but since I am just a noob, I really don't give out advice unless it was something that was shared with me or I post links for fellow noobs. I don't want to be giving out too much advice considering I am fairly new myself. I do check out other journals from time to time to see how the grow is going or to use advice that could be helpful for me. I try to give back when I can or have something to offer. Or sometimes I just bump threads that might not have gotten an answer for whatever reason. Thanks for your input, hope to hear more from you.

Smoke---I did as you said and clipped off all the dead leaves.

Not really much to add today other than I have been germinating more seeds like crazy from bagseed. I have germinated 13 seeds since 11/25, some have not come up at all for some reason, maybe its the humidity thing. But 8 has so far. I moved the humidifier to the closet, gonna get another one for my bedroom. Just trying to get a SOG going at different stages. Plus I will be ordering some beans a little later, anyone have suggestions? Doesn't really matter to me if they are Indica or Sativa. I just want a strain that is easy to work with.

 

[QueenTokelove]

re: QT's Second Grow - 1st Journal

There has been no changes in the humidity issue. With humidifier the humidity has only gone up to 40 percent but quickly goes down when the door is open. I have a fan with a heater thingy on it but bf had took it off. He is gonna put it back on to see if that will help.

I am so stoked, I finally was able to order the magic beans...Wooot..For now I only got 2 but maybe will get a few more later...I am getting Big Bang and Lemon Skunk...I know ThatOneGuy has a journal going for the Lemon Skunk which I have been following but gonna start back at the beginning to see if I missed anything. Has anyone worked with Big Bang before? Try saying that three tines..lol.

This is what Big Bang is:Big Bang (Greenhouse) Skunk X Northern Light X El Nino

 

[Smoke2Js]

re: QT's Second Grow - 1st Journal

I was wondering about the temp inside the closet. A cold environment will affect growth as well. Hope all is well with the 8 that popped.

 

[QueenTokelove]

re: QT's Second Grow - 1st Journal

looking good! I'd lst or top em again later. LST is better since you don't stress them out and they won't take time to grow again, just branch more bud sites! =)

The question is when should I top them again. I did it about 2 weeks ago for the first time.And I can see an improvement in all of them but one. I am almost ready to pull it but wanna give it one more chance to do something. And I had a horror story with ltsing. I tried to do it on my first grow and snapped one of my plants!!! I tried to give it a splint but ended up just throwing it away. And when is a good time to start doing ltsing?

Smoke- the temp during the day has been between 80-90 degrees depending if the door is shut or not. I checked temp this am when lights came on and it was at 70 so I am guessing that is where it is at night with no lights.

I couldn't help myself, I got 3 more beans...Big Bomb, Blue Mystic, and BlackJack...And I also think I got some free mystery beans..I can't wait. At the moment I don't have much room for them when they come with all the germinating I have been doing lately. But I think I can make room for one. Anyone have any info about these, please share.

I am proud of myself so far. I have been comparing the grows. I have gotten better with watering. I usually water every 5-6 days or daily spritz for the tiny sprouts. I can see improvement. I will post some pics later. There is only one that I don't know what the hell is going on with it. It hasn't gotten any taller and most of the leaves died. Will include that with the others.

I am finding it a bit confusing trying to keep up with different grows. Almost exhausting. How do you guys do it? I need some type of system, writing on the calendar just confuses the hell outta me.

As stated before, the ladies had their first shot of nutes at half strength last week. I am proud to say, knock on wood no nute burn. And they're starting to fill out, well two of them are. One just seems to be doing its own thing growing up but not out or any kind of new growth on it yet. I have gotten better myself with this grow. I am not stressing out nearly as much. They definitely are not suffering at all compared to the first grow. I am amazed they even survived(first grow)..I think a few of the ones coming are suppose to be good for beginners...

Got major munchies, waiting for my bf to finish the tacos so I can smash them...

 

[Smoke2Js]

re: QT's Second Grow - 1st Journal

Smoke- the temp during the day has been between 80-90 degrees depending if the door is shut or not. I checked temp this am when lights came on and it was at 70 so I am guessing that is where it is at night with no lights.

80-90 is a bit high for your girls. have you considered switching your light schedule to nighttime to better regulate the heat? This might also improve your relative humidity.

 

[QueenTokelove]

re: QT's Second Grow - 1st Journal

*feels real stupid* now why didn't I think of that? I am going to switch the timer but would end up making them have a longer light cycle, would that be a bad thing? Or better to have them have a longer night cycle?

 

[QueenTokelove]

re: QT's Second Grow - 1st Journal

80-90 is a bit high for your girls. have you considered switching your light schedule to nighttime to better regulate the heat? This might also improve your relative humidity.

I think I may have said that wrong, been blazed lately..What I mean to say is when the door stays open it is a constant 80 degrees. When the door is closed it goes up to 90 but the humidity says between 20-30. I agree 90 is a bit high, that is when I open the door til the temp drops back down to 80. And I thought 80 was ok for them, its not?

 

[Blue Planet Nutrients]

re: QT's Second Grow - 1st Journal

wassss-happpeningggg QTL!!!

first of all, SUBBED.

Second, the leaves that curled totally looks like ph issues to me with a bit of nute burn maybe. What kind of soil are you using? Just to be sure that they are receiving every nutrient that they require, I would give them just a VERY dilute nutrient solution at this point.....Like 1 or 2 ml/gallon. get that ph around 6.5 to 6.8 and keep it there. remember....lemon juice will make the ph go down and garden lime will make it go up. garden lime is a little more permanent soil amendment so use it sparingly. Let the soil dry out really well in between waterings and let those babies do their thing. One more thing, gotta keep those temps down.......just re-hashing what everyone else has already said.

 

[QueenTokelove]

re: QT's Second Grow - 1st Journal

wassss-happpeningggg QTL!!!

first of all, SUBBED.

Second, the leaves that curled totally looks like ph issues to me with a bit of nute burn maybe. What kind of soil are you using? Just to be sure that they are receiving every nutrient that they require, I would give them just a VERY dilute nutrient solution at this point.....Like 1 or 2 ml/gallon. get that ph around 6.5 to 6.8 and keep it there. remember....lemon juice will make the ph go down and garden lime will make it go up. garden lime is a little more permanent soil amendment so use it sparingly. Let the soil dry out really well in between waterings and let those babies do their thing. One more thing, gotta keep those temps down.......

Yeah the smallest plant got burned really bad. And that was me giving it very diluted portions. Someone even advised to give them water first before giving the nutes. That was what I did on my own but with someone saying the same thing, it made me feel like I was doing the right thing for a change..lol..I am using Foxfarm OF soil and your nutes. After giving them their first dose I see major improvement in all of them except one. You can see for yourself.

Ah, I was told lemon juice was not good to give with them being a little acidic already so I countered it or so I thought with baking soda mixture. I think it must of worked out because I don't see any major drooping. Thats when it seem like they had a growing spurt. And only one plant had nute burn out of 4. Man, first grow all of them had it and often. Plus I was overwatering them. But with this second grow, it has gotten easier and I have grown. And thanks for checking in.

There are two that are my pride and joy. I'm trying not to show favoritism but its so hard...Here is the first fave...

Now here is my second fave..

Not sure what is going on with this one, should I pull it?

Then there is this one, some leaves had nute burn, took them off but nothing else has grown back at the bottom. The top still looks good. Curious to see what happens as it gets bigger...

If you compare the previous pics, I think you can see the growth spurt. I don't know what you got in these nutes, Corey but the ladies sure seem to love it.... And can anyone tell me what you think they are...I think I have 2 that are Indica and 2 that are sativas but I am not sure...Oh and I am taking the advice from Smoke to change the lighting times so that lights are on at night and off during the day. Since this is going into effect now, they will be getting more light. I hope this won't stress them or cause them to hermie...I also topped 2 of them.

 

[Blue Planet Nutrients]

re: QT's Second Grow - 1st Journal

They are looking really good. FFOF contains all the essentials so yeah, giving them plain water is fine for now. At this stage, if is very important to just keep the humidity, temp, and ph in check and let them go on their own for a couple of weeks. If it were me, I would just let the runt go for a bit but ultimately, I am guessing that it will stay way behind the rest and take up valuable space so that is your call. If you got space, no harm in letting it go a little longer to see how it does.

 

[QueenTokelove]

re: QT's Second Grow - 1st Journal

Thanks Corey. I am limited in space and am expecting some new beans as I stated earlier. So, I am really leaning towards pulling it...No idea what you think they may be?

 

[Blue Planet Nutrients]

re: QT's Second Grow - 1st Journal

Thanks Corey. I am limited in space and am expecting some new beans as I stated earlier. So, I am really leaning towards pulling it...No idea what you think they may be?

THere is definitely some indica influence in the genetics for sure so it is a hybrid. As far as being easy to work with, you will know once they flower and determine how much they stretch. After they grow a bit you will also be able which ones are light feeders or heavy feeders. If you are searching for that one strain that you really want to keep going, take a cutting of each plant before you flower and keep the one that you like the best out of all of the strains and work with that one and shit-can the rest.

 

[GodSpeed]

re: QT's Second Grow - 1st Journal

Hard to see some pic's but i see a indica dom strian there. Subbed if i wasnt already!

 

[QueenTokelove]

re: QT's Second Grow - 1st Journal

Thanks God and Corey but which ones do you think have Indica traits or is the hybrid? Sorry about the pics, am taking it with my digital camera. Next pics I will try with my new phone. Hopefully they will show better than my Blackberry did.

As stated earlier, I switched their light/dark time..it is still 18/6 but now just off during the day and on at night. Last night was when I switched but they got extra light. Would that cause them to hermie? Or is a little more light this one time may be a good thing? More stuff to produce during their night cycle? Thats what I like to think is happening. They don't seem to mind the watering schedule which is I water every six days.

I had some seeds die on me from either too much light or couldn't break through the dirt. The last ones I germinated I made sure the root was in the dirt but made sure the seed part was out of the dirt. The seedlings are doing good considering that they are only under 2 14w bulbs at the moment.

Its a wrap for now...Prolly take some more pics when I see more changes.

 

[GodSpeed]

re: QT's Second Grow - 1st Journal

Indica is a short plant, usually under 6ft tall, rarely over 8ft tall. Its leaves have short, wide fingers and are deep green, often tinged with purple. At maturity, the leaves start to turn even darker purple. It has short branches laden with thick, dense buds, which mature early


Sativa plants vary from about 6ft to over 25ft in height. Most varieties grow in the 8ft to I2ft range. The leaves are long and thin fingered and are light green, especially equatorial varieties, which have less chlorophyll and more yellow pigments in order to protect the plant from intense light. Temperate varieties are darker green. The leaves of some varieties yellow and fall off during maturity. The plants have long branches. The bottom ones may spread 4ft or more from the central stalk, rather like a conical Xmas tree shape.

I guess this will only tell you what your ladies are dominant in its very rare these days to get hold of pure sativa's, most are hybrids.

 

[Blue Planet Nutrients]

re: QT's Second Grow - 1st Journal

besides just being genetically a hermaphrodite, stress can cause it. stress can be anything like high temperatures, large ph fluctuations, and large RH fluctuations to an extent