Pyramid Purple & DNA Chocolope Under CFL - 2nd Grow

Jesstar said:
From what I know it's 5.8 for hydro and 6.5 for soil, A.
This might be a daft question but how do you actually catch the run off? Prop the pot on something and try get under it?
Also, check this. My pH meter reads 4.3 in vinegar, pretty close, but then shows 6 or so in water I know and tested to be around 8 so..... Dunno. Haha.

-J.
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I would imagine most people just take the run off from their drip tray, that's what I would do (I am growing in soil and haven't taken PH once, so far no problems) so if there is any other way I don't know about it.

I agree with you on the Ph topic, Hydro Ph is usually lower (around 5.8 like you said).

Not sure if I already did, but congrats on the Harvest my dude!! She looks pretty naked haha :cheesygrinsmiley: Can't wait for you to finally be able to enjoy the fruits of your labor, you definitely earned it my dude!
 
Thanks man! I'm excited to try the final, cured product. I ran into a few small hurdles this grow and started with a very thin setup but all in all, she had a decent life. I think what I'm going to put my limited harvest and THC production down to heat. I'm sure it's also got a lot to do with Chocos problems. 105℉ is just toooo darn hot. I'll take a long hard look at the situation before my next project and hope to get bigger and better each time round. :D
Thanks to the whole 420Mag community for all the advice, knowledge and support. :)

-J.
 
Jesstar said:
From what I know it's 5.8 for hydro and 6.5 for soil, A.
This might be a daft question but how do you actually catch the run off? Prop the pot on something and try get under it?
Also, check this. My pH meter reads 4.3 in vinegar, pretty close, but then shows 6 or so in water I know and tested to be around 8 so..... Dunno. Haha.

-J.
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I'm actually using pots that people would grow nice/decorative outdoor plants in lol. I found them at a local big box store for $7 each, and they included a drain tray attached to the pot. Now here's the ugly part, I installed a screw between the pot and the attached tray to form a spout, and I just tilt the pot to drain it. The pots are on a small stand, about 45cm tall, so I can place my catch tray below them easily.
*EDIT: This method works fine with my 6gallon pots, and a smaller plant. Any plants above 24" 60cm, I would not suggest tilting the pot

Every situation will be different depending on the specific grow room. Most of the time all it takes is a little time to sit down, have a little smoke (whatever helps you think best, sativa/indica) and brainstorm ideas on how to solve the problem.

4.3 for vinegar? That sounds high, and it's much farther than you think. Each difference in whole numbers on the pH scale is 10 times more acidic/more basic than the previous number. So if you jump two spots, it means it's 100 times more acidic/basic (10 x 10 =100) depending on the direction you go on the scale.
It sounds like the meter might be a bit inaccurate, especially if you have a known pH water sample that isn't testing right.

And congrats on the harvest too, there's no better feeling than when the drying ends, and you can sample your work. :rollit:
 
Coco is not soil, it's a soiless medium Star so Antics Ph levels would be to high over 6.
Max, PH does matter but if your water supply, be it tap or whatever is in the correct range for your medium you'll always grow PH issue free.
 
B A R said:
Coco is not soil, it's a soiless medium Star so Antics Ph levels would be to high over 6.
Max, PH does matter but if your water supply, be it tap or whatever is in the correct range for your medium you'll always grow PH issue free.
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I was always told it was important, I guess I am just lucky to have the water supply I do.
 
Yeah true, BARman. Soiless is the same as hydro I read so 5.8. I'm a soil guy anyway so their suggestion is good for me. :) Moving to all SIP for the next venture after seeing your success and my own(so far) with my 2 experiments. I think I will need some new nutes, seems this stuff has too much N. Does everyone agree with that?

Antics, after seeing the strange variation in readings from my PH meter I put it down and haven't picked it back up. I just PH my water going in to 6.5 and hope it balances itself out. Does a plant alter the soils PH at any point and if so, when and why? I think knowing this will help me along a fair bit.

Now, with Choco. I think it was PlanetJ and KJC who said root damage? I think this is the key. She is not getting any better quickly so I had a little dig and inch in the soil. Here's what I noticed:

:thedoubletake: Perlite has a pinkish tinge to it below the first 1/2" layer..?

:thedoubletake: Fucking fungas gnats. They have decided to live below the surface now because the fan was upsetting and killing them and so was I. I spose they figured they should just hang below the surface, away from us.. Bastards.

:thedoubletake: What I think are fungas gnat larvae.

:thedoubletake: Soil still very moist and cakey. Sort of stuck together with what I'm disgusted to think is..

:thedoubletake: Mould!? On a little slow release bean..
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:thedoubletake: More mould or maybe salt build up?
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What should I DOOOOO?! Poor lass..

Thanks peoples. :)

-J.
 
the gnat larvae is what kills your plants by killing roots it would be best to try and take care of that issue
the sad thing is most if not all soils come with pests
 
Cronichemphog said:
the sad thing is most if not all soils come with pests
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I wouldn't go as far as to say that Cronic. I've had gnat issues in the warm months when the room windows are open & again when I brought my outdoor fire escape girls inside. I also had a problem with gnats & aphids when I first started but that was in soil I gathered from street planter beds outside before I knew any better.
Come to think of it I haven't even used 25% of the soil nor the peat moss I bought yet. With cooking PJ's Organic Soil Mix those big bags will last me at least a couple years. So yeah, maybe I did get lucky.

When I do get infested Star I eradicate it quickly using that formula but forget about that 3% nonsense. You can use up to 6 cap fulls of hydrogen peroxide per quart depending on how bad your infested. If gnats are showing up every time you disturb the soil it's a pretty bad infestation.
 
it can cause some bad problem Brother BAR
its why my og kush mom ended up in the trash and when I pulled it out of the pot I could see all kinds of shit crawling around in the soil
wasn't a big deal for me to trash it at the time cause I had a lot more going on and growin on
but it can get bad with the right environment, like warm tropical
 
Oh, and I forgot to mention Star. As a preventive measure spray the insides of your 2lt Soda Pop Pots with Neem Oil before adding your medium & spray the medium once every 2wks with a mild mix (1 cap of HP) of the hydrogen peroxide concoction. It'll leave you gnat free unless you bring them in from somewhere else.
 
Ahh sweet. Will do. I was going to ask you as well, is there anything you can do to stop algae growing in the res? Otherwise I just clean it every few days which will get tedious with 6.. I'm about to get the MARS II 700w To replace my cfls for heat reasons.. Reckon it'l be overkill in my 2'x3' cupboard? ;)

-J.
 
I haven't ran into an algae problem yet with my SIPs but the first 2 are sealed & I top feed. Today I just started one which is unsealed & will be bottom feed; more along the lines of hempy.

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I'll keep an eye out for algae on this one.
 
For soil insects I use diatomaceous earth on top of the soil as a barrier, it cuts them as they move through it. I bought my diatomaceous earth from an animal feed store, do not use the type meant for pool filters. Mosquito dunks can also be used as a soil drench for fungus gnats. Sierra Natural Sciences also makes a soil drench called SNS-203 for fungus gnats and other soil insects.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatomaceous earth

https://www.homedepot.com Mosquito Dunks 6 Pack

https://www.sierranaturalscience.com natural-pesticides SNS-203
 
Soil insects can quickly damage the roots of a plant and be at cause for many deficient conditions present on leaves due to nutrient uptake problems. Eliminate the fungus gnats and I believe that your Chocolope will improve!
 
You did not really tie her down to prevent stretch, but to open her up, so more light can penetrate to the lower bud-sites. If the plant is fixed in this shape now, you could untie .. you could also try to open her up a lil more, but be careful not to damage her ;)

I'm not sure what is common tbh, not that much experience, but I do not untie them at all .. just coining in ;)
 
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