Plushberry Clones In Soil

It's good getting into breeding your own seeds. No more buying overpriced seeds from online retailers. Plus it's fun to experiment with cross breeding. Hope everything goes well for everyone making their own seeds! Take the leap Kriaze, it's fun! The worst that could happen is you have a million seeds to pick out of your buds... haha

Edit: you need at least 5 weeks to get mature seeds. If you pollinate certain branches, harvest the other non pollinated buds and let the others mature on the plant.
 
I think it's looking like I'll be definitely giving it a go. I'll research the best way forward from here, I'm thinking sort the smoke first and expirment later , but if I can manage to pollinate one branch whilst keeping the rest safe that would be great :thumb:
 
I hope the flush helps with whatever is affecting your plants!! and if you every get some awesome phenotype s make sure to share :volcano-smiley:
 
Wow, that took a lot longer than I expected. Because I was going to run so much water through these plants I decided that I would take them to the bathroom and give them a shower instead. Two pots only just fit in and the other pot couldn't even stand steady on the bottom, so it was a case of balance it while I could and get some flush going on :)

The Lonely Girl was the first in, she needed a bit of a trim so I cut off some of the lower branches except for three little shoots which I decided to keep in case I reveg her in the future. I gave her a good 4 or 5 times her pot size to be certain and ended up with a runoff of 5.7 PH and 236ppm. That was after 5 attempts and I just could not bring the runoff PH any higher than that. She's back in her tent now hopefully well sated with my 7.3 PH tap water, and this is where I reach a sticking point. Do I feed now, tomorrow or leave it until she is ready to drink again? I'm tempted to feed at around 6.8 PH to make sure she gets some Pottasium but I'm not sure if she would take it at the minute. I'm unsure, and this applies to all the plants.

Anyway here she is in the bath:

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Now the Poorly Girl has an extremely large pot in comparison to the other two and she's heavy, it was a two person job carrying her around and making sure that those branches didn't snap, I'm going to have to start making sure I get the PH right in future if I'm going to continue using these pots as there's no way I'm looking forward to having to carry this about ever again :rofl:
I had no worthwhile way of testing her run off in the bath as the tray wouldn't fit in so there was only a runoff that wasn't deep enough to fit my meters in, no big deal though because she had 4 or 5 times her pot size flushed through too. That was a lot of water and hopefully it should balance some of the acid that I had created in the soil. With a bit of luck she'll perk up over the next few days, but again the same question is, do I feed? :hmmmm:

Here she is in the bath, my poor dwarf was nearly drowned but I rescued him :)

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Now onto the last one that was going strong. I decided to give her a precautionary flush just to be sure that there won't be any future lockouts before she gets the chop. I ran 4 times her pot size worth of water through and she ended with a runoff PH of 5.6 along with 597ppm (I hope these numbers mean something to someone lol), I don't understand why the PH was a touch lower than the Lonely Girl but I get the feeling that I may have damaged the soil a touch more as these plants are around a week or so in front of LG. If that's the case then this precautionary flush will hopefully have rectified the majority if not all the damage that I have done. But she's now back in the tent and again I have the same problem, feed now or wait?

Here is the Strong Girl in the bath:

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That's it for the girls for today (apart from my one question as to whether to feed or not) and I'm also quite happy with a couple of goodies I got delivered which will help me in the future. First is the TDS Meter, it only cost me £8.99 and is supposed to be extremely accurate according to the reviews. I'm waiting on some TDS 342ppm Calibration Solution so bear in mind I can't vouch for it's accuracy 100%. At least it's good to have a ball park figure though in the meantime.

Here's a picture of the new member of my BTGP (Beat The Growing Pains) team :)

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I also got some Potassium Bicarbonate for increasing my PH, I'll use Lemon Juice in the future if ever I do need to go lower, I'm very wary on that though after seeing my feed measurements without the PH Down last time. It's not worthy of a picture though, it's just a bag of granules :)

My final addition to my BTGP team is more of a personal thing. After struggling to take pictures of my trichomes with the USB Microscope I bought I'm pleased to say that my adapter arrived today and here she is!

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This will make things a lot clearer trichome wise, I'm impressed with the quality.
 
I hope the flush helps with whatever is affecting your plants!! and if you every get some awesome phenotype s make sure to share :volcano-smiley:

Hey arellanobrian thanks for stopping by. I'm hoping the flush works too but after some great advice on here over the past few days I feel like I've had a hidden door revealed to me! I never concerned myself too much at all with being serious about PH and PPM but now I am a believer. It WILL work out by the end of this grow, and the next will only improve :)

As for the Phenotypes, I'm all about sharing ;)
 
Im sure your pull it off man, :thumb: and i also decided to test PH in my organic grows as well as ive seen some problems with my plants in soil but we'll just get better from here man. how much longer do you think they have?
 
Ah I bet you can guess that I'm going to say around 4-5 weeks arellanobrian :rofl: I need to pump some PK into these quick sharp. Actually It may be more like 3-4 weeks as they're 38 days under 12/12, but I also don't mind leaving them an extra 1 or 2 weeks as I prefer the heavier couch lock in an evening to help me sleep (or stay up rambling nonsense until I fall asleep at the desk sometimes lol). All the best :thumb:
 
I would start on nutes at half strength maybe tomorrow. With that amount of water in the pot the nutes will dilute further. If you can, check your run-off with the half strength and move up from there depending on readings. Full strength is not always the best thing to do. It sells more product but it will not necessarily help your plants.
 
Thanks Medfarmer I'll do that tomorrow then. I'll also add some PK 13/14 so that they get that Potassium boost they need, but I'll make sure it's only a half strength dose. I don't want them keeling over like they did on the last grow so I'll be extra careful with it. Much appreciated, you sir are a Gentleman and a Scholar ;)
 
Today I fed all three plants each with 6 litres of water, 3-4ml of Micro, 5ml of Grow, 5ml of Bloom, 5ml of CalMag (I'll be going into this later), 5ml of CannaBoost, 5ml of Canna Rhizotonic (supposed to be great for plants that have been stressed) and 5ml of Canna PK 13/14. All measured to bang on 6.5 PH. When all the nutes were added the PH ended up at 7.1 which isn't far off the 7.3 PH of my plain tapwater, it seems that maybe the Rhizotonic is quite alkaline as usually the nutes drop the PH to 6.7.

Anyway the first one was a bit of a pain to get to PH 6.5 as I underestimated the effectiveness of lemon juice and one squirt took it to 5.8 PH which meant that I had to start adding the Potassium Bicarbonate to bring it back up. The second one was much easier and the third pretty much the same. Use lemon juice sparingly in the future is what I'm thinking.

Regarding the Nitrogen toxicity I'm wondering whether my CalMag could have contributed to that as it plainly states on the front of the bottle 4-0-0. I'm not sure if this just applies to Sensi Cal Mag Xtra or if all others are the same. It's something I will be looking into though as that Nitrogen amount seems quite high considering my AN Micro is only 2-0-0 and AN Grow is 1-0-4.

Another thing I noticed is what looked like a massive build up of salts around the mouth of my PK 13/14 bottle. I'm wondering also whether that would mean I'm more liable to nutrient lockout because of all the salt in the 13/14. I've used it much more sparingly than I did with my last grow so hopefully everything will be fine, if not then the PK 13/14 will be binned and I will look for an alternate solution.

Other than that all seems well although Lonely Girl actually looks worse for wear after her flush yesterday, I'm not quite sure what to make of that but either way her feed is exactly 6.5 PH today so I can do no more for her other than mourn her passing if she fades away. What I will say is that she had drunk nearly all of the water from the flush, in fact she was looking a bit dry on the top of her soil, weird.

The Strong Girl under the 1600w had around 1-2l of water left in her tray so I had to empty that before I could feed, and now her tray is slightly overflowing. Again not a lot I can do about that as I would like her to soak it all up overnight, I'll see how she is tomorrow.

The Poorly Girl on the other hand had no run off to contend with (could be down to the much bigger pot), and even after feeding there must only have been around 200-500ml of run off. She's smelling a lot more than the other plants though, I'm not sure if that's a sign of senescence but it's too early to say. Hopefully she'll perk up after her (finally) PH perfect feed.

I didn't test any runoff measurements as like MedFarmer stated I won't get a true reading for a few feeds. In time though this will become a regular part of my growing routine.

No pictures today as I'm going to wait a few days to see how the plants get on. All the best everyone, I've just burped my jars and one particular fat orange bud caught my eyes and called my name, how could I resist? Here's to the medicine, and here's to you all :volcano-smiley::Namaste:
 
All measured to bang on 6.5 PH. When all the nutes were added the PH ended up at 7.1 which isn't far off the 7.3 PH of my plain tapwater, it seems that maybe the Rhizotonic is quite alkaline as usually the nutes drop the PH to 6.7.

Anyway the first one was a bit of a pain to get to PH 6.5 as I underestimated the effectiveness of lemon juice and one squirt took it to 5.8 PH which meant that I had to start adding the Potassium Bicarbonate to bring it back up. The second one was much easier and the third pretty much the same. Use lemon juice sparingly in the future is what I'm thinking.

I believe you could have used it at 7.1 PH. The soil is probably high 5's to low 6 PH. Adding ferts at 7.1 would probably balance out around the 6.5 ish PH. But, 6.5 PH works also.

I believe the PH tends to get acidic the longer the grow goes. Salt build up ect...

I am very curious to your next PH reading of Run-Off. I would let them dry out a little bit. Then at the next water or feeding... let them soak in it a little bit. An initial run off reading may be suspect because some water will rush through and not pick up much salt. I like to soak mine... poor off the excess... and then give a splash more and take a run off reading.

But... my plants are smaller and easier to manipulate to get a run off reading.

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Hey Scar. I did think about doing it a little high but yesterday I put extra 7.3 PH tap water through with the flush than maybe was necessary, they were under the shower on and off a long time lol. I'm thinking now that I give them feed at PH 6.5 they're at least going to get some of what they need just to give them a boost and pick them up and then I'll start testing the PH and PPM runoff definitely. I just need to give it awhile so I get a balanced reading :).

Luckily the trays under the pots are deep so I can get readings from there easily enough, it's just a waiting game for now though until they've had the next couple of feeds through them and hopefully I'll have a ballpark figure as to what PH I feed at :thumb:
 
Hello all. It's time for an update today and I have run into some issues that I'm hoping someone can help with. First of all the Lonely Girl is looking pretty much dead. I have no idea what to do with her :hmmmm:

After her flush and feed she is getting worse every day. As you can see in the earlier pictures the flush seems to have made her worse. She still has wet soil and doesn't seem to be drinking so much, I'm not sure whether it's worth trying to pull her back from this stage considering that she had a flush before worsening. I'm tempted to just pull the plug and get some more seeds going, any thoughts on the matter are appreciated.

Here are some pictures taken today:

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I'll update the 2 Girls 1 Tent next after I've uploaded the pictures. All the best everyone :thumb:
 
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