Pennywise Does SOG Pheno Hunts Fall 2018

bobrown14 said:
Cloning ... keep everything CLEAN - tool you use to cut - disinfect with alcohol.

I'm back to putting cuts in a glass jar with water and maybe a little coconut water. Getting just as many rooted cuts that way than doing my cloner and a lot less work.

For a cloner you have to tear it down after every bacth and run bleach/water solution thru it over night to clean. If I dont do that, the next round % goes WAY down.
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Thats why I like taking the cuts, dipping them in gel and dropping them right in soil. Nothing to clean.....just use sterile tools.

I use rapid rooter plugs too....but my % is the same in soil or in plugs so I am slowly switching over to soil as I finish off my plugs. The plugs are definitely faster......8-10 days vs 12-18 days for direct sow into soil. Lots of ways to skin a cat. I just like doing it with the least amount of effort!
 
@Van Stank how much light do you give your cuttings? Can I get away with putting them in my veg tent under indirect light or will the 6 hour dark period mess them up?
 
Good luck Penny!

@bobrown14 question for you on the putting your clippings in a jar. I have tried rooting clones in a glass of water but had no luck with that. Its the only method I can't seem to get any roots on. Do you keep an airstone to oxygenate the water? Do you need to darken the sides of the jar (think wrap in duct tape)? I would love to try whatever it is that you do to see if I can get it to work. Not that I need that method....just that i want to figure out what I wasn't doing right. Thanks brother.
 
Pennywise said:
@Van Stank how much light do you give your cuttings? Can I get away with putting them in my veg tent under indirect light or will the 6 hour dark period mess them up?
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I always give all my cuttings 18 hours of light and 6 hours of darkness. I have mine running under a small T5 that seems to work great for cuttings. Never had an issues except long reveg times for cuttings I took from plants in flower. I still have one now that has been revegging for 2 months. Its just now starting to throw out new growth (funky 1 bladed leaves) after 2 months.

Now supposedly for revegging a cut, you can speed the process up by running them under 24 hours of light continuously. I am not in a rush so I don't mind a plant taking its sweet time. If I have an open slot, I will just drop another bean. Eventually they will outgrow the reveg funk. Speeding that up is really about the only time I can see running more than 18-6.
 
Ok that's what I was hoping, I'll stick them in the back of the veg tent where they won't be directly under the QB's.
 
Pennywise said:
@Van Stank how much light do you give your cuttings? Can I get away with putting them in my veg tent under indirect light or will the 6 hour dark period mess them up?
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Here are four Colombian Gold cuttings I took on 10-4 in the morning. Here they are today. No longer dependent on the domes to survive which tells me they have started rooting SO I have to call them clones at this point. Pro Mix BX soaked with Clonex Solution two days prior to taking the cuttings. I cut the bottom at a severe angle, and shave the stalk, and then dip them into whatever cloning powder I have on hand. They are in a homemade cloning/seedling box with four 20w CFL bulbs for lighting. I keep them about 16" below the lights. Because they are in a cup full of medium it takes a few extra days for the roots to grow out to the sides of the cups. But usually roots start to appear (strain specific) 10-14 days after taking the cuttings.
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This is what they look like under their individual domes.
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Thanks for the direction!

Kingjoe83 said:
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Pennywise said:
Lol trying to reply to 2 people in the same post. :ciao:
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We’re a team brother! I agree with PW :yahoo:

Van Stank said:
Thats why I like taking the cuts, dipping them in gel and dropping them right in soil.!
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Mr Stank, have you ever dropped any into the 100% red wiggler worm castings? I’ve a pile of this. I’m told it’s magic lol. Maybe I’ll try this soon? Just wondering if that was tried in your world first.
 
Yours will look just as nice I am confident.
 
Pennywise said:
Ok good info, I didn't really want to set up a new grow space for the cuttings.
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No need to.....just keep them far from the light in your veg tent for the first 2 weeks and then move em closer as they root and grow. Easy peasy brother!
Lowded118 said:
Thanks for the direction!




We’re a team brother! I agree with PW :yahoo:



Mr Stank, have you ever dropped any into the 100% red wiggler worm castings? I’ve a pile of this. I’m told it’s magic lol. Maybe I’ll try this soon? Just wondering if that was tried in your world first.
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No I have never tried that. I have started preferring to do it similar to the method Beez showed. Just straight into a solo cup of soil that will be its home for the next month to month and a half. I have been 100% with that method on 7 different strains so far. Not as fast as other methods buy definitely the easiest.
 
I'll give it try after the rapid rooters, don't want to start too many different methods at first. I have my rooters soaking in water with some Super Thrive.
 
There you go...find a method that works, then try others and pick the one that works best for you. I am thinking the rooters are best for you as a coco or DWC grower. Probably easier to transition if you just start them in that medium and starting in soil and the cleaning off roots and changing mediums. I like the soil starts cause there is no transitional period. Lots of different ways.....just gotta find yours.
 
LaquerHead said:
Just straight into a jar of water!? Seems to easy! Might have to try it. Whats your success rate using that method?
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I just took 5 cuts last week and 1 already in soil 2 have roots and the last 2 are well .... hanging out not dead yet, not by a fair margin.

Keeping the jar warm is key and changing the water every few days. My cloner was full and going 0 for 8. It needs to be cleaned. It just stops working noting I can do about it cept clean it with bleach and water then back in bizz.

Man I'm old, this is the old way of doing it. Tried and tested before we had any fancy smancy equipment.

In horticulture many professionals just take the cut, scrape the end a little and put into soil under lighting. I used to do it that way too but it's easier in a jar with water. Then we pick the successful cuts and toss the rest.

Can't keep all the cuts anyways.

Damn I just had a deja-vu on this very subject.

Lots a ways to skin the cat as they say. I try em all. Cover the bases. I try not to do the all eggs (cuts) in one basket deal as they say. Mix it up. What I don't use are those chemical rooting gels and powders. I've tried them all. Found that it didn't make any difference one way or the other on success rates so stopped using them.

There's a natural organic rooting hormone - willow root, can get this CHEAP and make your own from it. I have it but haven't tried it out YET. It's next up.

Instead of me dropping a garden bomb, here's a good read.

Nettles, Comfrey and willow (I bought the willow powder on A-zon instead of making my own)

I have all of these on hand all the time.

Natural Rooting Methods – Organic Rooting Options For Cuttings
 
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