PeeJay's Prudent Home-Brewed Organic Soil - Outdoor Out of Sight Deck Grow

Fabulous. The way a greenhouse should look! Nice and clean. The plants look great.

I swear I went out there this morning to check on the gardens and the cannabis packed on a TON of pistols yesterday. It is almost solid up and down the stems. C'mon trichomes and may you be nice and amber.

Your grow is beautiful and Lester, I always look at your grow journal. I don't have a lot to add. You are going a great job.

It's almost the weekend. Yay.
 
I'm pleased as punch! The fan and filter are rated at 400 cfm, so plenty for the 6'x6' space. As an added bonus, if I crank up the swamp cooler in my office and open up the sliding door it's close enough to the greenhouse that a stream of cooled and humidified air is sucked into the greenhouse. I tested this by lighting up a blunt inside the door and watching the stream of smoke drift out the door and into the greenhouse. Very nice. I have the swamper on high and the temperature inside the GH has dropped four degrees in the last hour.

I feel very secure about odor issues.

As daytime high temps drop I'll also break out the pole saw and selectively prune the tree that shades the greenhouse between about noon and three-o'clock to increase light intensity through flowering.

Space wise, it's not going to be too difficult to get in there and tend the plants. Because the WP is a dwarf strain they are reasonably close to full size now. Alpha is right about 4' from the top of the pot, and that's about the limit of how big these plants are supposed to get outside. In the picture I posted Beta is sitting on top of a milk crate. She's going to stay lifted like that to prevent her getting shaded by Alpha.

GF, I've said all along that you are going to do really well with your outside girls. The early flowering was a bummer, but they are looking great! You're going to harvest a bunch of good smoke! Lester's KC-45 is amazing - a huge beast in a small pot. You should give serious consideration to strains like that at your location. If you let them amber up they won't make you too paranoid...
 
I ordered seed for Mazar, which is a sativa . I am going to start that up inside in the spring for my summer outdoor grow next year. I wish I didn't love the idea of growing under lights in the house so much because if I can grow a pound or so outside I don't really need much more than that per year. That is even giving it away. But I do love this hobby and I will continue to try new strains, etc.
 
Naw, GF. Mazar is from the Mazar-I-Sharif region of Northern Afganistan - quite a bit north of you and is 100% Indica. The Dutch Passion Mazar is Mazar-I-Sharif x Skunk, so it has a little sativa influence added, but not much. I've had great success with Mazar crosses where I live. The latitude and altitude here are very close to the Mazar-I-Sharif region. Both the Darkstar and the Mama Mia I've grown are Mazar crosses. The Mama Mia is Mazar-I-Sharif x Early Skunk. Darkstar is Mazar-i-Sharif x Purple Kush.

For your outdoor grows you should look at a map with latitude and longitude lines on it. Follow the line of your latitude around the globe and choose strains with a landrace genetic backbone similar to your latitude. It's worked out well for me.
 
I don't know why I thought it was a sativa? Hmm. Maybe one of the other free seeds I'm getting is a sativa. I have to look. But, that said, Afghanistan, well, south Afghanistan is just south of where I am located. It is not that different unless you compare it to the northern tips of Afghanistan. I'm just about on the same. I am at 30 N and Afghanistan is at 34 N.

But when I make my next order I will definitely be sure to order some strains which are perfect for my exact latitude of 30. I don't know that 4 degrees makes a big difference, but it probably is a huge difference.
 
Yes, I believe that. I wonder how many miles are between each tenth of a degree. I guess I can look that up easily.

Did you ever think in a million years when we were young adults that, we'd be one day sitting in our house and be able to buy anything, send anything, read, write or watch anything and all on your couch? I sure didn't. I'm the one with the chronic dead phone in her bag because I never remember I have a phone to charge in the first place.

:)
 
So what would the range be for successful growing using seed from a region in particular? From here, 200 miles can get me to a different USDA Agricultural Cold Hardiness Zone. I am firmly in 8b and would be in 7b 200 miles straight north. Other than the cold hardiness zones, I see virtually no difference in lighting or humidity or even temperatures. Dallas has the same USDA Heat Zone of 9. It MAY be a little cooler here than Dallas, but that's because we have millions of trees, hills and are closer to the Gulf stream along the dry line.

That's a run on sentence if I ever saw one.
 
Victoria, don't take anyone's word for it. Look into it yourself. Mazar-i-Sharif is in the very-most Northern part of Afganistan. There is a good Wiki on the region. Check it out. Lots of the cannabis there is not grown in the valley floor. It is grown in the canyons of the mountains which rise to great heights in a hurry. Folks in Colorado have great success with Mazar crosses.

To put things into broader perspective search for the sunrise and sunset times at your location. Compare those to the sunrise and sunset times at other latitudes. The differences are dramatic.

In addition, compare typical wet-dry cycles of landraces to your own expected wet dry cycles. Wet and dry is not just about rainfall, it's also about humidity. A generalization is that Sativas favor a dry spring and summer, and a moist fall. Indicas favor a wetter spring and summer and a dry fall. These very general differences are reflected in their structures. An Indica dominated plant tends to have a more dense structure and bigger colas in general. The genetic evolution governing structure is not focused on airflow and mold prevention. Sativas, in contrast, have a much more open and airy structure to promote airflow and evaporation in wetter and warmer fall weather.

There are, no-doubt, growers in your vicinity who know quite well what strains kick ass in your climate outdoors, GF. Then again, you live at the junction of three different climate zones, so what does well twenty miles away might not do it for you...

You are in touch with your micro-climate more than most growers. When you search for genetics keep your latitude and climate in mind.
 
One may see no virtual difference in the distance. But the plants are very intelligent and calculated organisms that have adapted to solar cycles for millions of years. They can detect many different things that we may not be as keen on.

Though the Amazon Jungle is thousands of miles away from where GF is. The micro climates may be striking compatible for a land-race strain who is adapted to such conditions. It sounded like you had quite a bit of hot, humid, and cloudy days, being so near the Gulf I'd imagine that is a common trend?

I do believe KC-45 would be a really good plant to grow in your garden GF. It would probably grow to monstrous proportions.

And like I said it is some of the most spiritual pot I've ever indulged in. Nothing had made me feel so connected to the Universe while I was gardening and doing things. We believe the land-race Sativa in KC-45 might be the Amazonian strain called Manga Rosa which has been used by Shamans for spiritual purposes. The fact KC brains got a hold of these genetics for so cheap has blown me a way. So happy I finally found something that fits into my hot and humid environment.

That lanky structure and open floral development of the buds has been a savior to me, it is so nice to grow buds and not have to worry as much about mold as I did before. Haven't had any bud rot at all this year and for that I'm truly thankful to these wonderful Sativas.

Another thing about the Blackberry I grew, it's cross of Black Domino which is an indica from Seattle, and Rasberry cough which in itself is a cross from a land-race strain from Cambodia.

The Swiss Cheese (indica dominant) which I'm currently also growing is derived from the Swiss Alps and is known to be mold resistant.

I basically chose strains that had mold resistances, and KC-45 is definitely one of those magic strains. Can't wait to chop some this weekend. :surf:
 
That is dead on Peege. I even know my specific backyard micro climate. There are even spots in the yard where I can grow something for Zone 9b and have it reliably hardy. So many methods to do this. I actually prefer to use varieties and cultivars which are suited to the overall conditions. It is so much easier. I do have a very large plant collection, that's for sure.

And truth be told, I didn't know Mazar was a place, so when I said S. Afghanistan, I wasn't being a joker!

The next seed order I place I will get with you and Les and figure out some outdoor strains. I won't bother with the Mazar outside. It is a freebie so I didn't order it specifically. I ordered with how they rated its medicinal properties, along with high THC because I need that for sleeping. I was tempted to buy the Green C***K, but I'm waiting to see what Dennise thinks of it. I also never like newest strains. Too new and in the world of cannabis, probably not reliable from every seed developer.

I'm still amazed at a lot of the crap floating around being sold to people. Utterly amazing.
 
Okay, Lester, it is on my list for the next order. This has been a very unusual spring and summer so far. It has only gone over 100 a few times and it is raining more than it ever did in July. Well, not more than it ever did, but very unusual for this month. I've had over 9 inches.
It has also been very cloudy and overcast with a stretch for the last few weeks with full sun all day every day. I think this is why the plants have started to push out so many pistols and trichomes. I don't see the calyxes yet, but I'm sure they are there. I just can't see them.

So you're right. It's been miserable weather.

I was wondering further; if the plants are so specific to regional conditions, light, etc. how then are we able to grow in cabs under lights with basically similar conditions regardless the strain? Is this why they classify outdoor/indoor strains? Does that also play in?
 
gardenfaerie said:
Okay, Lester, it is on my list for the next order. This has been a very unusual spring and summer so far. It has only gone over 100 a few times and it is raining more than it ever did in July. Well, not more than it ever did, but very unusual for this month. I've had over 9 inches.
It has also been very cloudy and overcast with a stretch for the last few weeks with full sun all day every day. I think this is why the plants have started to push out so many pistols and trichomes. I don't see the calyxes yet, but I'm sure they are there. I just can't see them.

So you're right. It's been miserable weather.

I was wondering further; if the plants are so specific to regional conditions, light, etc. how then are we able to grow in cabs under lights with basically similar conditions regardless the strain? Is this why they classify outdoor/indoor strains? Does that also play in?
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It's not really regardless of the strain. Modern-day hybrids that are highly stabilized through the generations to perform under those artificial conditions.

For instance, KC Brains offers a variety that is better suited to be grown indoors called the KC-36.

KC-45 is known to fare better outdoors in well fertilized organic soil.

But... as you know you can grow plants outdoors where they're supposed to be grown and nature will find a way to adapt and grow ;)
 
I would love to see you grow some Dark Star inside, GF. Mine turned out to be a real crippler. I still have a bunch of it left because two hits puts me into a chair sitting coma. Great sleepytime weed.

You don't need me and Lester. Just sleuth it out. Avoid strains that someone else did well with indoors. Match your climate and growing conditions to the strain. When a seed vendor says a bunch of crap, look for where the genetic backbone grows well outside. Use outside sources to examine the climate in which the genetic backbone thrives. Plant and reap the rewards.

You know this stuff!
 
Great thread. I had a few friends back in the early 80's that swore I grew some of the best weed they'd ever had. I kind of agreed as to that point, sinsemilla was what the rich kids in cali were smoking. Then out of nowhere here we sat with almost 2 pounds of premium weed grown from some decent bag seed in my backyard garden. To our credit, between the three of us I don't think we sold any of it. We enjoyed it so much, and we had enough we partied like rock stars for the whole Colorado winter. But I digress...again, great thread. :thumb:


gardenfaerie said:
I've had over 9 inches.
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:peace: to the world
 
I'm surprised I didn't come across your journals faster. Then again I have only really been on here actively for about a month. Very impressed and I can see we share a lot of the same approaches to growing. So :thanks: for being a nice refreshment. Although I must admit this isn't the first journal to have that affect, but one of only a handful for sure. I have really enjoyed reading this journal.
 
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