P-91 - CFL 12Pack - SCROG - DWC 1st Grow

Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

I didn't like that either, and... I did. Posted quickly to get it off of there. :)

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hmmmmm biblically squeamish are we?? May 12, 2011...make sure you harvest 2 weeks before...you're going to need it!!

Jesus is coming.............again!!

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:Namaste:

Uhhh..just a tiny bit :). When I was a kid I used to race BMX bikes and the first number I was assigned was 666. That same day, second heat, the gate dropped I took off and at the first table-top jump the kid next to me shot off the jump crooked and t-boned my bike mid-air and I landed straight down helmet first and got knocked the f@ck out. So, yeah that number still gives me the shivers! :trance:
 
Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

Awwwwe $HIT!! HempRockets Thread has 665 posts!! DAMN IT!

Somebody else needs to post before me.

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Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

Holy Hell...I'm still laughing and I'm not even on meds right now :rofl: Man I love this place!

OK, so a few pics from this morning...

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Looks like using the humidifier has given me an extra half-day between waterings so thank you Cateros for bringing that to my attention.:Namaste:

How far in are you guys and gals LST'ing your girls? I need to wrangle a few branches and want to make sure that it's OK. Shouldn't hurt anything right?

:peace:
 
Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

beutiful images my man!
 
Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

Holy Hell...I'm still laughing and I'm not even on meds right now :rofl: Man I love this place!

OK, so a few pics from this morning...

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Looks like using the humidifier has given me an extra half-day between waterings so thank you Cateros for bringing that to my attention.:Namaste:

How far in are you guys and gals LST'ing your girls? I need to wrangle a few branches and want to make sure that it's OK. Shouldn't hurt anything right?

:peace:

It's low stress so I would think as long as you're not being abusive, you know how the Olson twins love abuse, you should be fine with continuing to LST. I would stop though when you start seeing major bud formations....probably have a two week window before I would stop..

That's just me, an opinion..

:Namaste:
 
Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

beutiful images my man!

Thanks Hydro, they are doing great right now so I'm pumped!

It's low stress so I would think as long as you're not being abusive, you know how the Olson twins love abuse, you should be fine with continuing to LST. I would stop though when you start seeing major bud formations....probably have a two week window before I would stop..

That's just me, an opinion..

:Namaste:

I guess I just need to be sure, don't wanna screw up now :)

Thanks brother!
 
Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

Girls are looking fantastic!
I used to bmx quite a bit myself although I was more into the street riding and dirt jumping aspect of the sport. I miss it. My only extreme sport now is snowboarding and it will always be my #1 passion. There's absolutely nothing like the feeling of huckin' yourself over a 40-50 footer. Adrenaline is my drug of choice.
 
Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

Girls are looking fantastic!
I used to bmx quite a bit myself although I was more into the street riding and dirt jumping aspect of the sport. I miss it. My only extreme sport now is snowboarding and it will always be my #1 passion. There's absolutely nothing like the feeling of huckin' yourself over a 40-50 footer. Adrenaline is my drug of choice.

Thanks my man!

Yeah the good ol' days... bikes, skateboards, snowboards :high-five:
I used to snowboard A LOT. Me and a couple guys I used to ride with would move up to the mountains for the winter and work whatever job was available just for the free lift passes. I ended up spending most of my time in the parks or just spend the whole day hiking a rail. I haven't been for a loooong time. Hopefully my kids will want to go when they get a little older.

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Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

hmmmmm biblically squeamish are we?? May 12, 2011...make sure you harvest 2 weeks before...you're going to need it!!

Jesus is coming.............again!!

:rofl:

:Namaste:
And imagine how pissed Jesus will be if he shows up at your house and you dont have any kind bud from the tree of life to offer him or sacred oil .:peace:
 
Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

Glad the humidifier is helping I personally have to use a dehumidifier at all times as my grow room is in the basement and no matter what you do they always seem to be a bit damper and cooler. But on the plus side it allows me to have day time temps of 74 rh of 45% and night time temp of 62 rh 50% as I have been reading that a 10-15 degree temp shift during dark will help with bud production as well because it more naturally simulates autumn conditions
 
Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

Glad the humidifier is helping I personally have to use a dehumidifier at all times as my grow room is in the basement and no matter what you do they always seem to be a bit damper and cooler. But on the plus side it allows me to have day time temps of 74 rh of 45% and night time temp of 62 rh 50% as I have been reading that a 10-15 degree temp shift during dark will help with bud production as well because it more naturally simulates autumn conditions

Sounds like my situation. Now if my plants only looked like yours... :)

You grow some beauties Cateros!

Oh, and Dime, I'll be back in another 254 posts or so for good measure. ;)
 
Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

Oh, and Dime, I'll be back in another 254 posts or so for good measure. ;)

Let's just keep posting to get you to #666 quicker!!! :)
 
Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

yo homie so what bloom boosters have you decided to settle on? and also I was wondering if you were aquainted with that growing that goes by the name of steve or something like that-his avatar pic is of a stoney version of uncle sam pointing at you? Well in case you havn't heard of him i suggest you check him out, he recently posted on shapey's thread and he has a pretty dope RDWC/fogponics set up you gatta check out! Durring my wake and bake i went through his grow alll stonily and slowly haha. Man its been hard tho latley a ton of stress. I have a bumnch of videos that need to be cut, my boss doesn't wanna let me bring on my buddie as an assistant editor to help but he still wants them all done super quick for the same...OK money he's paying me so...im just ganna do what I can do and if he tries to trip just hit him with reality. But yeah. its been a stressful week. Then saw some people today from my past that...well wern't the best influences on my life and I even had madd grudges against them last time I saw them so that flooded me with a bumnch of bad old memmories and anxietys. Smokin medicine helps but its not the solution! Just tryign to buckle down as best I can and kick ass you know....
lol
hydro
 
Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

Dude Dime next time you attempt DWC you gatta follow these dope ass ADVANCED DWC Techniques, im incorporating them right now its bad ass!
I found this article in Urban Garden article 10 free at most hydroponic stores.


ADVANCED WATER CULTURE TECHNIQUES


One aspect of hydroponics that receives much attention from growers of all abilities is deep water culture aka DWC. Everest quizzes water culture expert, Daniel Wilson from Current Culture H2O, and discovers some great tips on running these productive hydroponic systems.

Of all the hydroponic growing media you can use water is cheap and the easiest to obtain. Water can be filtered, typically with an RO machine, and sterilized with UV or Ozone to create a clean and consistent substrate tailored to your growing requirements. Many hydroponic growers already understand the virtues of using, and more importantly reusing, water in hydroponic systems. So, why not go the whole hog, throw away your rock wool/soil/coco/clay pebbles and use water culture?!
What is Water Culture?

Deep water culture (DWC) — At its essence, a DWC system is made up of a container, lid and net pot. The container holds the nutrient solution (typically 2.5—4 gallons (10—15 liters)) and the lid supports a single plant growing in a net pot. Roots grow out the net pot and into the nutrient solution held in the container below. In the container, an air stone bubbles away to agitate the solution and keep dissolved oxygen levels high–essential in any DWC system. Shallow water culture (SWC) is based on the same principle but, yes you've guessed it, uses a lower volume of water.
Single vs. Recirculating

Single stand-alone systems are fairly cheap to buy and even more popular for DIY enthusiasts. Modular DWC systems, in which many containers are connected to a central reservoir, create an active system where the nutrient solution is able to cycle from the reservoir around all the pots, arriving back at the reservoir. Each has inherent issues. Stand-alone systems can be inconvenient to work with, while recirculating systems can spread problematic root diseases very quickly. The key is to operate the chosen water culture system properly, and you'll be sure to get explosive results. Once you play around with DWC, you'll most likely wish your system was modular and recirculating.

Q: Ok, lets start with the basics; what types of nutrients and additives work in DWC?

A: In my experience, pure synthetics of the highest solubility tend to work best. Especially formulations with well-balanced mineral ratios as well as being balanced on a molecular level. This tends to translate to a more pH stable nutrient solution that stays viable for longer periods of time.

Q: Where do you stand when it comes to Beneficial Biology in DWC systems?

A: There's a bit of a fork in the road philosophically when it comes to"bennies" or no "bennies". In my experiences both tend to work but I lean towards more of a sterile aqueous root zone. It is possible to use a more carbon-based substrate for a plant's root crown cultivation. It's this beneficial habitat that could harbor and allow colonization of a plant's mutualistic organisms. The solution itself has little potential for colonization of anything other than bacteria, which while useful, don't offer the benefits of fungi's, which share a more direct relationship with the roots themselves.

Q: Are there any specific pH and EC requirements you recommend?

A: Depending on the nutrient, working with a pH between 5.5—6.5 works fine. If you want to be more specific 6.0—6.3 for veg, and 5.7—5.9 for flower. It's in these pH ranges that the minerals most needed for the respective plant cycles are most available. With regards to EC, I generally recommend 50—75% of a nutrient manufacturers directed dosage for best results. Remember that lower EC can result in a higher intake of water into a plant's tissue, which in turn speeds plant metabolism and increases nutrient transport.

Q: How often should growers change-out the nutrient solution? Are there signs they should look out for?

A: Depending on the type of nutrients, a 14—21 day change out schedule is typical. When plants are growing vigorously they can turn the nutrients over several times in that time frame. This is essentially "changing the nutes" by displacement from the top-off reservoir. If the nutes begin to fluctuate in pH or become murky, or if plants begin reducing nutrient usage this is usually a good time to purge the reservoir and mix a fresh batch.

Q: What is the ideal water temperature for DWC systems?

A: We've observed that no matter the ambient air temperature, plant roots tend to do best at 62—68°F (17—20°C). Above 72°F (21°C) the solutions dissolved oxygen (DO) holding potential quickly diminishes and below 60°F (16°C) plants tend to slow their metabolism in response to what is perceived as changing seasons. This said, growers could aid in fruit/flower ripening by reducing water temps toward the end of the reproductive cycle. Being able to dial in each zone of the plant (Leaf/Root) specifically often leads to an amplification of plant productivity.

Q: Speaking about DO, what is the best practice for monitoring and maintaining DO levels?

A: Keep nutrients cool and ppm's at a modest level to ensure good DO saturation. Surface aeration and the implementation of air pumps and diffusers is an easy way to keep the solution agitated and moving. Manual as well as digital meters can be useful for those more meticulous souls. If you go digital buy high end as the budget meters (which still run several hundred dollars) are typically unreliable instruments in a pretty plastic housing.

Q: Can you run through your recommendations for propagating plants destined for DWC?

A: Establishing cuttings with an aeroponic cloner using 1/8th strength nutrients is ideal, preferably under mixed spectrum T-5 lighting. Propagating bare root plants suits DWC best. This offers an easier transition to water culture given there is no wicking substrate (rock wool, Sure To Grow) to hold excess moisture too close to the root crown.

Q: Is there an ideal water level to be maintained in the reservoir?

A: Start with the bare root submersed to the base of the rooted stalk, being sure to not submerse the stem or stalk tissue so as to avoid water logging. If using a wicking substrate, ensure the cube is approx. 1" above water line; this may necessitate hand watering for a few days before the roots hit the water.

Q: What are the potentialities for plant steering using water level / amount of root zone exposed to the air?

A: With water as their growing media, growers can tailor nutrient solution parameters more specifically. Provoking plant responses such as essential oil production, fruiting and flowering are better manipulated when the substrate can be dialed in. For example, higher exposure of the root zone to atmospheric oxygen can help trigger a plant to increase oil production as a means to conserve water, and can also apply mild root stresses that are often interpreted by the plant as reproductive cues. While higher water levels can cause plants to focus more energy on vegetative production, particularly fan leaves, which in turn speeds transpiration and photosynthetic potential.

Q: Are there any specific pests or pitfalls DWC growers should watch out for?

A: Root diseases no doubt, Pythium, Fusarium, etc. These types of problems are most evident in water culture given the roots high profile, but are also typically found in most hydro methods currently practiced. In our experiences we've observed that once the variable causing the problem is removed (warm water, too high an EC, sludging inputs, etc.), it's completely likely the plants will recover. In other words, root disease is not a death sentence, but a symptom of a problem needing to be addressed.

Q: I have heard from a few DWC growers that veg times can be significantly reduced, is this true?

A: Growers will need to make that call, but when dialed-in there is no faster way to grow plants–hydroponically or otherwise. A well-hydrated plant typically grows more quickly which will inevitably create shorter veg times and still achieve a premeditated harvestable plant size.

Q: Is DWC suitable for longer-term plants, such as donor plants? Commercially DWC is only used for lettuce and short-cycle plants, not for annuals.

A: Water culture is still a relatively new hydroponics method. Though first introduced in the 1930s by professor Gericke at UC Berkley, using water as a primary growth medium is still seen as somewhat impractical by commercial farmers. Due to the need to keep water conditions cool, it's caused the bottom line to operate large-scale water culture facilities to be cost prohibitive.

Though with the recent improvements in cooling technology and increased efficiencies, I think we are likely to see a move toward water culture as a viable alternative to the current carbon substrate-based approaches presently being used for the growth of annual vegetables.

Especially as farmers discover the reduced volume of fertilizer inputs and the conservation of precious water that are key to water culture's allure. This is an exciting time for water culture as what has been considered a black art is now emerging as a legitimate means of cultivating a variety of crops.
 
Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

Hey guys and gals, only have a few minutes so I just wanted to share some pics from this morning before my next appt.:) Gonna be having surgery soon so I can get my ass moving around like normal again. :high-five:

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Hydro..I'm gonna read that at my Dr's appt later! Oh and the only bloom shnizz I have is the Budswel but it looks like it's making them bloom FAST and with some coool colors like bright @ss greens. Oh and GH Micro and Bloom too.

Later!
 
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